denied Access to Adult areas!

I been away from Second Life some months, I just returned for a look round, but when I went to some of my old clubs where I used to dance, iI got denied access, because it said I wasnt old enough to go into this area.

Now all Sites/clubs that has adult content , I teleport too, Denies access each time, saying im not age verified...but Im 58 and been in these places before and owned adult clubs myself, I cant work out whats going on.

has there been any problems last 3 months with adult areas ... or has adult sims/clubs/content been deleted? or has adult content been taken out of second life?

thanks

Have you verified yourself? You must to gain access.

My alt is not and she cant go anywhere.......

Most of the adult stuff is being moved to the continent Zindra as per the blog. You have to have payment info on file to be able to go to Zindra. The other kind of adult flag requires that you age verify.

Yeah... it sucks, but LL has to protect it's collective backside from Congress, the law and the "savez teh chilrens!!11!" groups.

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010

It now is required to have either Payment Info on File or Aristotle Adult Age Verification to access Adult Content. The final actions are still going into place, and in some cases, land owners are trying to use the old "Require age verification" parcel or sim checks to meet the new guidelines, which instead require a change in the sim's maturity rating. This change can only be done on private island sims, and LL has established a whole new continent, Zindra, for Adult-rated commercial activity to move to.

The old checks, which would ONLY accept the Aristotle verification, never have worked 100% correctly, and should NOT be used as a parcel-level access control in most cases.

/me underlines the "or" above a few times. Don't have to do both, Michaelatv.

Also, to clarify, the Lindens have said that it is still allowed to use Adult Content "in private", such as in the bedroom of your SL home in a Mature (not PG) sim. But you can not advertise or allow general public access to such content (like having a public sex party place where anyone can come to play).

But to advertise or sell anything on the restricted list, you have to be on an Adult maturity-rated sim, so that your customers are, presumably, all verified as having either Aristotle Age verification OR that they have Payment Info on file. They added payment info as an OK qualifier because teh Aristotle check never worked right, and could no be used by people in all nations. While NEITHER check really says squat about the Player's real age, at least with one or the other, LL has some assurance that you provided some sort of identifying information, either to LL or to Aristotle.

QTF! Well said Ceera

~Brie

I wonder how having "payment info on file" proves your 18 +? When my daughter started her first job at 16 she also opened an acct - so she could if she wanted join SL & using her acct card pay for membership. For that matter some could have even become paid members vie their parents - not all parents take the time to check on what their kids are doing online and just allow them to join game sites and pay the membership for them.


Also of course a teen can "borrow" Mom or Dads lic for a few mins without their knowledge to use to verify the SL acct.

LL really should look into a better Age Verification system that works with all nations or even one for each nation. Then also require further confirmation that the info provided was submitted by that person before giving them access to the adult area. Like maybe send a letter by snail mail informing them that their info has been used to verify age for access to adult content giving them a phone number to call asking to enter a pin number to confirm it was really them.

Ya nothing is 100% guaranteed but at least LL would be making a better effect to keep the under aged out of the adult areas. Why bother spending the time and money making these changes if they are going to use just an "ok" age verification system to access the adult content it pretty much defeats the whole purpose of the changes in the long run.

Except that a -LOT- of clubs don't set their permissions right, and tell you you're wrong when you correct them... and so actually... if you want to go to adult content, you will need both of them to see about half of what's out there...

It doesn't. LL said this themselves, over and over, a couple years ago, on the first round of adult stuff.

The payment info stuff was added on this round, according to my conspiricy theory, because LL felt they needed to (edit: be seen to) do _something_ but didn't want to totally destroy the adult industry.

And of course, http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4489

Ugh, unfortuantely there appears to be TWO levels of adult flagging You know, just to make it EXTRA confusing.

The first one is easy to get a round. Go to your preferences ctrl+p and on the general tab near the bottom select "I want to access content rated" "PG, Mature and Adult"

You must have a newer viewer and might need to have payment info for this not sure.

Addiotionally In search you must also activate "adult" check boxes on EVERY search page seperately.

Last, even though a parcel is marked adult, you do not have to be verified to get in unless that parcel is /also/ set to "Block access by residents who are not verified". (Well actually ANY parcel, including on the mainland can be set this way even if it is not an adult sim(?!?!?))

If you run into a parcel like that (Has an "A" flag on the map) then you need to be verified. But 99% of zindra is "only" flagged adult and not banning non verifieds. So mostly you just need to do the part at the top with your preferences to get in.

By contrast a lot of estate land -IS- banning non-verifieds. They are not supposed to be set that way, but misinformed owners set land as -both- adult and baring non-verifieds thinking the ToS requires them to.

NO PARCEL ANYWHERE needs to ban non-verifieds. Anytime you see that, contact the owner of the parcel and inform them that they have set up incorrect permissions.
- Some few may do it on purpose knowing they did not need to, but the hassle they will suffer by getting IM'd about it is a lesser evil to correcting all those masses that keep setting up their permissions improperly...

Well Thanks everyone for your replies, seems I missed all this while I was away, but annoyed that being a player since 2007, LL couldnt be bothered to send me an Email or Even send me to a blog when I signed Back on recently Saying Adult Parts of SL had changed.

When You mean Payment Info? Do you mean what I buyIn Xstreet, as I have spent 900$ in 2 years with paypal. I dont pay for the upgraded account now, but I used too last year

I have found a new page On my second life account, which Im taken too, when Im denied acess too places or banned red line parcels that say I cant go in. It has some age verification form, but like some others, I dont like giving personal real life details over the internet for obvious reasons, so Im reluctant to fill this in.

To be honest Its all getting too complicated for a game, and My warp sims I play in, Big brother tactics are ruining these sims also, as some wont let me put my adult picture sets I made to sell anymore, although The sim is rated as a mature Roleplay adult sim, containg sex RP or other violent acts (defeated avaters I mean in pools of blood). Its hard enough making a few Lindens already with rents so high, but if parcels and sims are denying even selling a virtual vibrator, I may as well pack up. Also What the hell. or what is Zindra? Again LL never informed me of this area.

But what annoyed me most, was, That I have been a Tenant of Cove islands resident sims for over 13 months, When I went to look at some residential parcels, again I was denied access, because of my age, but this is a PG resident area, its not adult rated in any form, still confused.

When you get that message, don't fill in the details, point the people who own the land to this conversation or to http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4489

since my last message, I decided to leave second life, Im not being a pawn in the united states politics, I NEVER send passport or ID or driving license copies to anyone but official united kingdom agencies. like tax /pensions or benefit claims offices. Im not about to send these private documents to a game website!

Second life is nothing like it was when i joined in 2007..land is far to high in price, to much politics are creeping ever further into , whats only a game.

Time to leave, and cry over the 2000$ I gave to LL over 2 years.

Bye all

Me thinks if SL was just only a game, you wouldn't have found the need to leave, but of course you won't see this now.

Your profile in SL needs to say "payment info used" (or possibly "payment info on file" ? ). Any purchase on the lindex will do that.

After that all you need to do is in SL go into "edit - preferences" and in the general tab set your rating to "PG, Mature and Adult"

That is enough to get into Zindra

As stated above some parcel owners are still restricting to just Aristole verified.
The ability to do that is left over from the old way of adult verification in SL, and I expect once the adult changes to SL are complete either your payment status will get you in there as well or they will lose the ability to do that.

I sent a message to LL about this matter, all I got was an automated reply saying use passport or driving license if u live in the UK As it happens I dont have either of these anyway, and as I said earlier, I wouldnt give these sort of details to a game website.

But i may reinstall Second life and go thro some of the things that Cortex says, but the enjoyment I used to get out of playing sl has gone, as it seems to be political correctness has taken over.

Dekka U said "If it was only a game"! Well it is! Thats the official line from LL.
Some time ago, Gambling was banned if i remember, and many people who owned casinos. land etc, were wiped out over night. When they tried to get compensation, LL refused to pay back any money, because they said the definition of Second life, is thats it a game, and therefore no liability can be accepted, as its not a real world, although ironicly people paid real £ or $ in the first case.

As i see the writing is on the wall, for the end of second life as we know it, as i understand from recent press reports that most virtual worlds are going to stop the abilty for users to make content, because of legal issues over owner ship. LL, like the lambs they are, are bound to follow the others, thus it will be the end of SL as we know it now.

Long live farm town in facebook lol

Michaela,

Repeat: You are complaining about the Aristotle Age Verification process, which you do NOT have to use in order to access Adult Content.

It is ONE of the two methods by which you can become "account verified" and gain access.

The safer way, if you're worried about ID theft, is to have Payment Info On File. That is, give LL your PayPal account or credit card. You might have to actually use the payment method to buy a couple bucks worth of $L.

They've also said that you can be account verified simply by having used XStreetSL.

Once you have Payment Info On File, go into Edit/Preferences/General and check the Adult Content access box. Then do the same thing in Search.

So don't. I haven't, and won't, and it doesn't restrict what I can do in SL.

The safer way still is to just ask Elvis to verify for you.

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/SL_Verification_(Age_%26_Payment)_-_Issues_and_Information

I guess I lost sympathy with the original poster here:

We asked for this, they said it wasn't necessary, welcome to the hell we been fighting since march, its truely DOES suck!



These are NOT big brother tactics. Actually that is what they are SUPPOSED to do. Mature and Adult NO LONGER mean the same thing. Your Adult items for sale have to be on ADULT rated Land. They started talking of this in March, and there is a LARGE group of us that have been fighting it, to little avail. The people that are on the adult continent are there because following the NEW RULES, it was move or close our adult themed businesses. Your not the only one NOT informed. AT the best guess of those that DO know, less than 25% have any idea whats up with these changes, many people are in for a MAJOR shock.



This is the tricky part. Many people FALSELY think that marking a parcel *age verified* gets them out of having to actually be on ADULT land. This is NOT TRUE. According to a meeting yesterday with Blondin Linden, Its said that come mid-september, anyone having ADULT content on mature mainland will have to get in on the auctions for adult rated land, or move to a private adult rated island. All Private Island owners that have ADULT content will be REQUIRED to flag Adult, or clean it up. All adult search words are currently being filtered on the 1.23 viewer. I looked at your profile in world, the payment info used there should access you to ANY properly set up adult land. The added *age verification* Some people add is simply adding to their own misery and loss of business.


Hate to break it to you, but its here. Its not changing. You've been gone, reasonable you didn't know and got blindsided. Imagine the thousands of foreign laungaue speakers, and people actually in business in world that are still clueless. They lost out on the forced migration, and they have 3 options. buy in on auction, close, or try to operate against the rules, at which point the AR patrol will promptly roast their collective asses. We have all been feeling the sting for a while now... welcome back to Second Life.


~Brie

It only has to be "Payment info on File." It doesn't have to be used.


It's just to cover LL's behind, because it's a "good enough" form of age verification via the courts of US law. And what's good enough for most major pr0n sites is good enough for LL!

At least they haven't gotten rid of adult content.. yet.