SL lack od policing and fraudulent rentals.

Pep brightens up my mood several times a day through these forums... if that's what Nazis do then dear old Adolf was sadly misunderstood...

You have a donkey?

Pep (Owners tend to resemble their pets; I have none)

What sounds like what is happening here is this: there is a prim bonus applied to the region, and the estate has not set aside enough community land to account for the bonus. So people are using up all the prims available to them, and the island is hitting the hard 15k prim limit, even though the OP has not come close to reaching their maximum allotment paid for. And with so much of their staff being unable to recognize the problem, it is just poor estate management all the way around.

Originally Posted by Pserendipity Daniels
What was the biggest island in the world before they discovered Australia?

Usagi,

You have been wronged, no doubt about it. But you are also making some errors. May I help to clarify things, so you will be better informed next time?

1. You may not post business disputes in this forum. It's against the forum guidelines, and can get you banned from the forums, and even from SL if you persist. Please edit your post to remove the names.

2. When you rent land on a private estate, the estate owner holds all the cards. The owner is correct when he says "a covenant is useless because it's not binding on the owner". Although that's true in the strictest sense, estate owners who write good covenants generally live up to them. And that's the key: finding a reputable estate owner. Talk to other residents. Google their name(s). Do forum searches.

3. Lag. If you want a residence, don't rent on a sim that also has a club on it. Simple as that. Don't rent a Homestead type sim, either.

4. Prims. You weren't promised bonus prims. Just because other people got them, doesn't mean that you are also entitled. Your contract with the owner is what governs this, not any new or changed policies offered to others. However, you WERE promised a certain level of prims, and you definitely should get that.

5. Prices. Bear in mind that estate owners pay $295/mo. to LL. They have to collect enough in rent to cover that, AND make back their cost to purchase the sim in the first place, AND account for a vacancy factor, AND for their time or their manager's time. In general, if you are paying less than about $L2 - 2.5 per prim per week, the owner is not charging you enough to remain in business, and you shouldn't be surprised if he suddenly folds on you. If a deal looks too good to be true, it probably is.

6. Don't think that just because the group owner or the manager or the person who receives your money are different, that there is a scam going on. This happens all the time. For example, I have an alt who serves as my group's "bank account". All money paid in rent goes to her account.

7. An estate owner can kick you off at any time for any reason, and you have no recourse. You may or may not get a refund, depending on the owner's policy (or simply on his mood that day). A reputable owner will not do this...her reputation is essential to staying in business. But it CAN happen. So never pay a high up-front "purchase" fee, and never pay for more than a month in advance.

Better luck next time.

Were you trying to say something?

Pep (Or is quoting two posts too complex for you?)

ditto. I'm not sure what his/her/its role on this forum is, but the comments do get annoying. In other forums we call it hijacking.

I got screwed a couple of weeks ago and I put out the facts without opinion just to warn. I received no backlash. I will do it again if screwed.

While pointing the finger at others regarding their english writing/speaking skills, there are 3 fingers pointing back at you. Perhaps you should pay equal amount of attention to geography as you do with being the english language police.

Since you appear to enjoy having the last word, enjoy it.

Have a good day!

Whatever floats your boat, love

More incomprehensible nonsense, eh?

Pep (You're not really trying are you?)

This is indeed what it sounds like. I just wonder how common it is, and whether it's... hmm, how to put this? "expedient business practice," perhaps.

I mean, airlines oversell capacity all the time. And sometimes they get caught with overbooked flights and have to try to extricate themselves from the situation. Same with telecom and probably lots of other industries where it's just impossible to be even remotely competitive without it.

So, if an Estate manager "over-bonuses" on the premise that not all parcels will use all their over-promised prims at the same time... can that ever work out okay for any extended length of time?

It only works if few people, if any, use the bonus prims, or there is always some vacancy. That way you can oversell the parcel and never have to worry about the hard limit.

it should be easy enough to figure out if they set a bonus prim pool and then calculate the remaining plots prims and then implement the bonus factor so thats its <15000 prims in total..

Ibtl!

Should, Rene, but you know that not every island owner has business sense, or even a basic understanding of land in SL.

To my reading, that seems like how to avoid overselling bonus prims. I was suggesting that there may be (*may* be) a way to oversell bonus prims and usually get away with it. If such a thing is even feasible, it would require a lot of statistics about the distribution of renters' prim usage over time, for different prim allotments, etc., plus some responsible way of handling the situation when it doesn't work.

I'm certainly not advocating such a thing; just idly curious if it would work.