Blizzard goes after Bots in WoW

Baloney. No point in arguing about it further. Only very careless people catch viruses and keyloggers today. The war was won because people didn't roll over and play dead to the threats from megamoniacal sociopathic hackers with personality disorders.

That is also untrue and the cost to the consumer for ongoing virus updates and subscriptions to software to combat it plus the need for better hardware so that the impact of using this stuff does not cripple your machine completely is considerable.
If you dont beleive me - use the most recent version of any anti-virus on the oldest computer you can find that will support it and see how that computer then performs compared to a version from a few years ago.

Many people around the globe are infected with viruses all the time still despite the escalating war between vendors and virus writers.

EDIT: No war has been won at all - if that were true then we would not need the virus checkers or keylogger checkers.

/me doesn't give a crap what teh OP is about.. / ** just posts a picture of a pie !

** well I would if I thought it was worth it it !**


** Imagine a "Pie" **

This is not "another clamp down." it's just a continuous daily process like flushing the toilet to get rid of the refuse.

WooHoo near 150 posts !


Did I mention pie ?

So tell me again why this is necessary if they won?

Then why do we need locks? Why not just leave all your money in the front yard since the need for lock or bank vaults, prove that the crooks will win...so why bother having door locks?---thats what you are saying.

Because we have not completely erradicated crime either - society has not yet won that battle either.

Yes?


You don't need to ban bots, you just need to eliminate traffic as a factor in search results and pow, you reduce the annoying useless bot population by the thousands... heck it could even be millions. Easy Peasy.

In the recent blog post Jeska Linden didn't seem to grasp the simplicity of this as a solution, which is kind of ridiculous.



Pssst... Jeska.... kill "traffic".... problem solved.

Honestly, how complex is that? You guys had no problems figuring out that the ancient ratings system was being gamed to death and eliminating it, how is it that 3+ years later you can't see the very same issue with the 'traffic' system and simply eliminate it as irrelevant.

O wait, I know, it has to do with those total subscriber and concurant user numbers you sell, doesn't it? Might I suggest you try selling a stable reliable client instead of jacked up numbers?

Cloak of shadows has completely ruined locks ability to beat those pesky thieves but we still need the locks, they're powerful most of the time.

There is a big difference between protecting you and your family from harm - which should be the true reason for locks and home security - possessions should be put in second place after that - and trying to stop Bots gaming traffic, land scams and grid problems in a virtual world. If you cannot see that Rebecca then you have reached the bottom of the conversation.

Because there is a small percentage or people in the world who have no ethics, honestly or just generally feell entitled and who sometimes hide behind some childish ideologies, trying to excuse their behavior.

Yes you are at last saying something. Perhaps LL does not want to make the cure worse than the disease by trying to get engaged in a battle that comsumes resource which cannot be won.

EDIT: To clarify, bring injury to the vast majority for the relative few who harm.

**URL** Pie

I know that I cannot prove what I am saying now but I am a software engineer and have been for inexcess of 15 years. I have mostly worked on closed source projects but have also benefited and contributed from Free Software (as Richar Stallman advocates) and the more popular name and movement of Open Source.
Companies around the globe every year make millions of dolalrs from using Free Software/Open Source because they too can use it as well as the individual. IBM, Microsft, Oracle, Sun...LL themselves have all benefitted Open Source/Free Software. To say it only causes harm is to have a very narrow viewpoint.

I know that I cannot prove what I am saying now but I am a software engineer and have been for inexcess of 15 years. I have mostly worked on closed source projects but have also benefited and contributed from Free Software (as Richard Stallman advocates) and the more popular name and movement of Open Source.
Companies around the globe every year make millions of dollars from using Free Software/Open Source because they too can use it as well as the individual. IBM, Microsft, Oracle, Google, Sun...LL themselves have all benefitted Open Source/Free Software. To say it only causes harm is to have a very narrow viewpoint.

BTW: I have never created a virus/keylogger or virtual world Bot either. So not all Open Source advocates are hackers in their mom's basement who want to bring anarchy to the world.

Sorry fella but your arguments just don't hold any water. You are grossly undervaluing what paid employeees, of a strong company can do. They are paid because they are the best.

Pie ?

I can't tell you if LL will succeed---maybe with a very strong CEO but if they fail, there will be stronger companies who will know it is idiotic to have a virtual reality full of bots and crooks, running real customers away---such as Blizzard

Sorry Rebecca you are not even making sense - in what context are you referring to about paid employees? I am not undervaluing them at all - I am part of that work force myself.

Hmmm is that so? just tlike they cleared up the internet I suppose and dealt with corporate crime?

Use your imagination.

Anyway no point in arguing more about it. The crooks win in your Hollywood movie---too much film noir if you ask me.

Then don't - I am stepping up to bat against the false statements being made about the supposed harm caused by open source. That is the discussion that matters to me.

EDIT: Where is the real world where the crooks have lost then? I think my world is more real than a hollywood movie.

Hmmm... silly question....

Wouldnt a sim packed with tons of camping/traffic boosting Bots be on the verge of crashing where, anyone visiting & wearing something that's taxing on sim resources, might crash it?

Just wondering!!!


*not that I have any intention of doing so. I've got better things to do. But that information might be "helpful" to others.

Are you meaning a sim being crashed by real person's av going into the sim that is overtaxed by bots?