Stupid linden gay lesbian friend using Emeralds 2nd attachment points

Maybe, but there isn't a lot you can do about it. With different viewers on different machines you can't realistically control what others see.

Damn. You must have a HUGE friggin head.

Oh ... thanks for this warning. I just logged in on the standard viewer to check how others were seeing me and discovered that my black fur stole was lodged in a most unfortunate place

So the makers of EV have created the finite improbability device? Cool!

Open source software develops a lot faster than any closed one could do. Its similar if you compare Windows 7 with the latest Ubuntu 9.10.

The differences between different viewers aren't that great. Unless someone is deliberately tweaking their settings to make things look goofy, you're not going to look goofy unless you do something goofy like use the Emerald attachment points.

lol i logged in and i was shocked where things were stuck as well after reading this post. It's a shame others see all the things on the 2nd attachment places borked because for the first time in a very long time i didn't keep losing my collar or have to have one that attached to chest and one that attached to spine and switch them out depending on outfit. sighs Now if i can just figure out why i cant see particle chains when in emerald but i can in the regular viewer i would be a very happy girl.

Not goofy at all, O misguided mustelid. It's merely avant garde.

Soon you ALL will be using Emerald. Or LL will incorporate its features into the main viewer, which amounts to the same thing.

I think she latched her left eye onto the Nose attachment point...

What, in particular, makes you believe that anybody here is inclined to follow your "instructions"?

Perhaps.... But I come from a school of thought that dictates web design. There was a time in the past where people designed websites that looked perfect on Internet Explorer, but looked completely craptastic on other browsers, but it was accepted because everyone was running IE. Nowadays, designing websites like that will get a web designer fired. Great emphasis is placed on designing sites that look consistent from browser to browser. There is no reason the same school of thought cannot be applied here. You may look like a beauty queen in your own viewer, but if everyone else sees you as some creature that crawled out of the junk heap and snagged everything on your way out, that's the impression everyone will have of you, and basic laws of human nature applies - that's how people will treat you.

This --^

you never got the memo?
Ciera ( Sometimes you have to do things the hard way)

I'm Queen of SL


memo sent.


(ok Im having fun with you but dont piss me off.)

If SL is part of the Metaverse, then you most certainly are not.



Oh wow. What would happen?

But what can you do about it? Unless everyone uses the same viewer configured exactly the same, how can you ensure that everyone sees the same thing? Is the only way to do away with all viewers except one "official " one. This sounds like a problam a designer has to fix, not the user.

Same thing you do about browsers. You don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty... uh... I mean... you don't sweat the small stuff and you avoid doing things you know cause problems. Given that the open source clients are all supersets of the official viewer, the problem is actually simpler.


You can't, but it doesn't matter, because you don't have to. If you make sure your avatar looks right on the official viewer, with all the features enabled, you're pretty safe.

No, just don't *depend on* features of other viewers being present for everyone around you. Since most of the enhancements have nothing to do with how avatars look, that's enough.

Thats a wonderful piece of land there for sale in ironchurch. It would make a great gif factory. Or, mmmm, maybe a particle based home or, I know! a Chicken ranch!
The question is, is 200usd worth my time to just annoy a nonbeliever. And then theres the fact its on a slope that just makes it almost useless for anything at all. Still I have bought land out of spite before...

Hi neighbor!

Ciera (Doesnt that sound nice?)

Maybe you geeks can know what can cause what problems on which viewer, but I don't. And frankly I don't really care. If it looks good on my screen, I'm going with it. I'm in SL for my entertainment. If someone else finds my apperance amusing, good for them. I'm always happy to give people a laugh.

Yeh, you do, you were just told about it. There's a really short list, and it's not growing rapidly.

* Nuclear facelights that the owner can't see because they don't have local lighting.
* Emerald's extra attachment points.

I think that's it. I'm not talking about things like megaflexy hair that lags everyone, or distorters that don't get reset properly, just things that someone might not see on their own avatar because of their browser or their browser settings that make their own avatar look bad to other people.

First, quoted for posterity. An admission that you plan to harrass me in-world is good to have at this stage.

Second, if you want a good argument, I challenge you to this thread about child avatars:

Like Argent said, it's not geeky. I know that that if I use Emerald's extra attachment points for anything visible, the effect is going to look good to anyone else who uses Emerald and stupid to anyone who doesn't.

Personal decision I guess. For myself, I spend a lot of time resizing, positioning and rotating attachments to get them looking right, and, after all that effort, I don't want to go around with half my carefully positioned accessories appearing to most people to be floating round in mid-air, no matter how good they look to me and to the growing number of people who use Emerald.

So, even though it would be really convenient to have the extra points, I'm not going to use them till they're part of the official viewer. I can still use all Emerald's other cool features, of course.

Oh yeah, threatening griefing is a *real* good way to get someone to comply with your decrees.

Tell ya what tits, you just hold your breath until I comply.

The "I just want to please me with how I look" mindset it great, guys, really.

Just remember, there are a handful of us who like to capture snapshots of you great-looking folks. And as long as http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13630 is open, Emerald isn't a really good platform for snapshots, since all you can get without jumping through ridiculous hoops is low-resolution captures. As far as I can tell, serious SL photographers have dropped all the way back to 1.22, before LL broke anti-aliasing. I usually use Snowglobe, since everything rezzes much faster with it, and I can still get high resolution snapshots without VWR-13630 interfering.

As photographer on the street, I've been quietly saying to people, "Umm, you're using Emerald, aren't you? Are you aware that your [X Attachment] is [in some embarrassing place] for those of us who aren't using Emerald?" Maybe it's just me... I generally think it's polite not to take snapshots of people who are unknowingly in compromising positions, whether it's because of Emerald or because their last naughty animation is continuing to loop on my screen and not theirs. Thus far, people have been grateful for the kind warning, and nobody has said to me "I don't care. As long as I look good on my own screen, that's all that matters."

I'll have to ponder what the next step should be when I do get that response. Take the picture anyhow? That could make for an entertaining Flickr group.

was I talking to you donkeybutt or should I say richard?? I dont THINK so....... And how is buying land griefing? If I fraking want to I will. If I want to put a 1000 chickens on a plot I will.

Your not worth the time of day as it is. So this conversation is over.