My New Fad Diet (advice)

I think the reason is "volume".

omg hehehehe...
there is a name for that isn't there?

i know if my BF gets a deer he hangs it in the barn for 3 days then goes and cuts and packs it..it has something to do with tenderizing it..

that man will go through a deer in a month..not really but he likes it lol..he is not a sports trophy hunter like a lot of hunters..he believes in only taking what he needs and nothing more..
we raise a lot of animals and we believe in treating them right..give them the best lives we can..even the ones that live around us..the wild life..

last year we found two baby buzzards that fell from the nest..

omg they are so gross..but my father went and picked one up..it stabbed his arm and spit this black stuff on him that he said smelled like death juice hahahah
oh he smelled so bad..but he pulled them out of the creek after getting spit on twice and then built them a platform a little lower in the tree..i think in total he was stabbed 3 times and spit on over 4 times after it was all said and done and they were in their new nest lol

For the Rights of Vegetables to Enjoy a Natural Life

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OP: have you tried the Guinness and peanut diet? (you get plenty of excercise)

Legumes include peas, beans, lentils, alfalfa ... peanuts (yum) lot's of stuff I'm sure you have at least tasted if you don't already eat them on a regular basis.

Don't confuse the term with the french usage which just means vegetables in general.

it is..that and just another corporation trying to corner the food market..they are trying to make it an international patent..they are also going after people with seed stock to have them checked to see if there is any genetic manipulated seeds in their stock..if they find any they claim the whole stock..one man had to burn 50 years worth of seed that his wife and him had saved..50 years of canola seed had to be burned because the man used round up around the telephone polls that were next to his fields..the weeds built into like a super weed that stood up to a round up spraying and the company took samples from the weeds and waited a year until after the crop was gone to file a suit for failure to have a license to use their patent seed..
the same thing happened to a few other big farmers..
they even tried to go after farmers in Mexico but Mexico isn't playing that game ..they said our many types of corn have been here for generation after generation and you are not coming in here claiming it..
the reason they went there is a few farmers found they were less expensive seed and planted some..so this company is trying to make it world patent and then everyone has to pay them..

Anti vegan and vegetarian jabs like yours are the norm in discussions like this.

this sounds like a job for Beano man!!

LOL...death juice.

I was skunked in a garage once...

read this about cholesterol and eggs..eggs do get a bad rap..our whole family eats them all the time..my father should be dead with as many as he eats lol..
trans fats and other baddies are what do the clogging..
i mean if you like eggs then i don't think you should really worry too much and you may like this read

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t041100.asp

oh god i can't stand when those things even get around the house..

how did you ever get that off? did you have to use tomatoe juice?

Oh gawd, the cattle raiser is promoting carnivorous consumption!! Go figure! Next thing you know she will be shopping a meat catalog for $Linden based orders!

i knew there was a market here that was untapped lol

Well, lucky, but yet unfortunately, the dog took the brunt of the spray, the smell on me lasted about 48 hours and my hair had a smell for maybe 4 days. No, washing my hair with tomato juice did very little to get the smell out. I used lots of really bad conditioner that had a fruit bowl worth of smell to it (Herbal Essence!).

Also, i was wearing a robe, and in the garage going to the freezer when the dog chased the skunk in there with me - and that is when i heard that gawd awful hissing sound (i guess that was the spray? between dog growl, skunk noise, and then dog yelp, and my screaming, i don't know what was going on). My robe really protected my skin from getting saturated with that skunk funk.

The stuff is strong and you can tell that it must be some sort of concentrate because when it hits the air it just saturates an enclosed area (like a garage) entirely with a thick acrid smell in a matter of microseconds.

I think the skunk ran out of the garage before i had stopped screaming and ran out myself.

The dog however did not fair well. He spent about 30 minutes rubbing his nose into the grass non-stop, poor guy...And no, he did not learn to stop chasing skunks.

if you ever watch those wild life shows..i always find it funny when a bear or anything that knows what a skunk is will clear out of there real fast lol

if a bear is moving out of there it's got to be bad..

my step mother caught one in a cage a couple of years back..she had been trying to catch this thing for over a year i guess..it lived under their front porch..so she kept one of those cage traps and thought..well when it gets in here we can take it away from the house..

well she finally caught it and then came the realization of ..omg i cannot get close to the cage without that thing spraying..
so now she has this skunk at the front door that will spray at anything that comes close..
it had the whole area stinking up of skunk..i mean that smell goes a long ways..so finally she had to call animal control ..they literally got something longer than a 10 foot pole and drug the cage to the truck and put it in the back..that was the last we saw of it..she said they could keep the trap lol

I agree, eggs do get a bad rap. In nature, when one animal kills another, the first (and often) the only thing eaten are the eggs. Seals and fish is a classic example, they kill a fish, eating only the fatty belly and eggs, leaving the remainder to other predators.

Bird eggs are prized by predators like other birds, reptiles and mammals.

Bears eat only the eggs and skin of salmon, wolves eat only the head and tail.

Eggs are nearly a complete food source, being rich in vitamins, proteins, carbs and minerals. Sure, they contain alot of cholesterol, but they are also high in omegas, which metabolically reduce cholesterol.

Oddly enough, a bowl of clams has more vitamin C than a hundred rosehips or a litre of orange juice. Phytoplankton is a wonderful vegetable source.

A ten year old girl told me something profound once. "Big fish eat little fish, and that's just the way it is."

Hey! lighten up!

I was, as it happens vegetarian for many years, until I lived in a farming co-op where we knew our meat by name. Our moo-cows, ducks, chickens and geese lived the life of riley and were slaughtered as humanely as possible, on the farm (yes, I know this is is illegal in the case of the moo-cows, but we lived very quietly, only had a few of our cows "on paper" and got away with it - and it was pre-BSE days, so no worries there). I think what finally changed my attitude was the first day I went out at dawn to collect a bucket of slugs off the lettuce crop and fed them to the ducks. Even a vegan crop involves killing things, including the vegetables.

I was also a vegan for a bit, as an experiment, because somebody told me it would make me psychic (it didn't, it just made me feel really spacey, but I think I perhaps hadn't quite got the nutritional balance right. Also, I REALLY missed cheese )

Now, I live in a household with two vegetarians (one of whom is third generation and has discovered by experience that he just doesn't have the stomach enzymes to digest meat), and one other meat-eater. We have a mostly vegetarian diet (free-range meat once or twice a week) and, for the sake of the planet, eat vegan one night a week (not sure this actually achieves anything, but makes us feel good). But, FWIW, I am not comfortable eating sprouted seeds, forced rhubarb or celery (vegetable rights and peace, man! LOL).

What I posted above was an abstract of an art project I did a few years ago. I really did go through the process of trying to rehabilitate beansprouts for this project, and believe me, they don't take root easily when they have been through all that. The project grew out of questions such as, is the dichotomy between animal and vegetable, in terms of rights, really all that valid? What's more important, having a face, or being able to live out a natural life, whether you are an animal or a plant? Why do we in the west have such a f*cked-up, guilty attitude to food? (and I really have only met a handful of people who don't: who will eat whatever is nutritious and to hand, when they are hungry, and will stop when they are not hungry any more and who won't feel guilty about any of it.) The only escape I can see for us in the west is to learn to grow fur and photosynthesise.

Yes, that post (and the original project) was very tongue in cheek, but the point was to make people think. Apparently I failed in this case .

Kinda odd how people always assume vegans are these extreme pro-eco, "cows want to be our friends", thinking type of people, and granted, some are, especially the PETA crowd. But many of us just like the lifestyle change and look at things a little differently.

I *prefer* to eat "Producers": Primary producers are green plants and certain types of bacteria and algae. They are called Primary Producers because they are the ones that produce usable energy for the rest of the living organisms on earth come from. They use energy from the sun to make sucrose, glucose, and other compounds that other life forms can eat and "burn" for energy. In each one of those sugar molecules a little bit of the sun's energy is stored in a form that we can call chemical energy. But it might better be called "potential energy" since it is a sort of "doing-nothing-for-now-waiting-to-happen" kind of energy

Herbivores are "Primary Consumers", since they directly eat Primary Producers.

Carnivores are Secondary Consumers because they eat the Primary Consumers which eat the Primary Producers.
- These are also referred to as trophic levels

Flow of energy through a food chain. As energy passes to a higher tropic level, approximately 90% of the useful energy is lost. High tropic levels contain less energy and fewer organisms than lower levels.

At each tropic level in a food chain, energy is used by the organisms at that level to maintain their own life process. Because of the 2nd law of energy, some energy is lost to the surroundings as heat. it is estimated that in going from one tropic level to the next, about 90 % of the energy is lost.
In moving to the next tropic level, only 10 % of the original energy is available. By the third tropic level only 1% of the energy is available.

Energy is used much more efficiently if humans eat plants (first tropic level) instead of meat (second tropic level. A given area of farmland can support more people if the crops are fed directly to people rather than to livestock that people then eat.

For example if a man needs 3,000 Calories per day, then 30,000 Cal beef are needed, which in turn need 300,000 Cal of corn, which in turn means 30,000,000 Cal of sunshine. This works out to be 1.5 acres of corn per day per person. If the person ate corn directly then 10 people could be supported by the same 1.5 acres of corn.
-----http://www.ftexploring.com/links/foodchains.html

So my diet, while initially began as a way to sort out what could be having a psychotropic effect on me, turned into something permanent as i learned more information about it.

It really goes along with how i view things in the world should be, a more natural balance of things. But hey, i am from California, i listen to Led Zeppelin, eat rabbit food, and wear Birkenstocks (hippies can be conservatives too!), so what do i know!

i don't have a problem with what anyone eats or why they eat it..
i know i can't eat meats all the time..on really hot days like this past week i'll have a good garden salad for lunch..i just cannot have anything heavy when it's hot out..

i know some people have to stay away from meats and certain foods for many reasons..

my mood usually dictates what i eat..
now junk food is something i just cannot stand..well maybe a little taco bell once in a great while hehehe
but like McDonalds or Burger king or any of those places..i can't even stand in there long before my tummy starts to turn from the smells going on lol

i do like the spicy taco's..those are mostly salad anyways lol

That's a really well thought out food philosophy, and is a good explanation of why we haven't, on the whole, evolved to eat other carnivores (I say on the whole because I have Korean friends). The converse of your argument, though, is that certain nutrients become concentrated as we move up the food chain (consider for example the amount of protein, pound for pound, in the total biomass of beef V's beans - not harvested beans - whole animal V's whole plant, weight for weight)

Another thing to consider is that as well as sunshine, primary consumers eat animal poo. One of my main problems with a vegan lifestyle (except for the absence of cheese) is how to achieve it sustainably with the absence of animals in the system.

My main point though, I think, is that we in the west have, on the whole, a pretty f*cked up relationship with food (and I include myself in this). Most people on the planet are just happy if they get enough.

P.S. OP: Guinness and peanuts ... seriously

my step mom puts peanuts in her pepsi..right in the bottle or class..
has anyone heard of this before?she says lots of people do it or did it..i don't know what it would do but hold peanuts and save on cleaning a peanut dish hehehe

It's probably a craving.

As a child, I used to eat the burnt heads of matches. The doctor told my parents to just let me do it, because it probably contained a compound I was deficient in.

Craving is a sixth sense.

Pregnant women often crave unusual foods, hence the pickles and ice cream thing.

For me it was Olive & Mustard sandwiches during both pregnancies.

I bought some almonds and shrimp cocktail after work today. OM NOM NOM!

Massive protein.

The cocktail sauce is a source of carbs.

I do not recommend a high protient/fat diet - get ready for that ketosis rush!

My theory is that it's all about never eating enough to stretch a stomach into, being a bigger bag. My second theory is that, if a stomach has been stretched into being a bigger bag already, it can be shriveled back into being a smaller bag too, by training it with small meals.