My New Fad Diet (advice)

ya if you change your eating habits by not eating 10 tinkies a day anymore cutting out the trans fats or cutting out the midnight snacks that will help a lot..but there is no doctor out there telling me that it is healthier for me to just change my eating habits and that exercise went out in the 90's and i don't need it until i reached my goal..

eating healthy and exercise will get a person to their goal a lot faster and feeling better than just an eating habit change..

because eating healthy would be an eating habit change..

if once i reach my goal with just eating habit change and start to work out then i need to adjust my eating habits once more or i will start to burn and lose more weight..

you balance your way into a routine with exercise and eating habits so that when your goal is met you are already in the routine and able to maintain..

to lose 30 pounds in a year is a pretty long time..you could cut that in half eating right and exercise..
you don't have to join a Gym or kill yourself..but you need to flush your system using your bodies filters and burn off excess before it turns to sugars and the bad fats..

here is an example..someone with a hangover that wants to sleep it off..those poisons won't leave their body for 72 hours..

but if they get up the next day get out of the house start to do yard work in the heat and sweat and flush their system with water will cut that time in half..

Angel,

One alternative for people who want some meat in thier diet but worry about the morality of consuming animals that are so badly treated, is to choose kosher meats when they do occasionally add meat.

I myself am not Jewish. I do know that they have strict requirements on how thier meat animals are treated and slaughtered. It is part of what differentiates kosher from non.

I think it's about striking a balance between diet and exercise although I would certainly agree that unless you're an athlete or have quite a bit of natural stamina at least, the main focus of losing weight should be on what you are eating.

It just isn't smart to load up on totally unnecessary calories.

Having said that, the OP's weight problem stems from spending too much time at the keyboard this past year and that suggests she ought to consider getting more exercise. Even the slimmest Jim's health will suffer if his lifestyle is too sedentary.

I was a fat kid until I made a point of taking more exercise in my late teens. As an adult I still pork out from time to time if I neglect to take sufficient exercise to offset the considerable amounts of eggs, cheese, cream, butter, fries and beer that have always been regular features of my diet.

Jesus, even the words 'dairy products' make me drool.

At my lowest ebb a few years back when I was glued to the 'puter, I managed to lose 30 kilos over five months entirely through a programme of daily exercise. I couldn't face depriving my gluttonous appetite although I did cut down some. Nevertheless I took the hard way because, hey, I didn't say I'm smart. In fact I'm sure I have a rootkit distributed between my stomach and my gonads that overrides any sensible attitude my brain might attempt to adopt toward food or sex.

Interestingly, my bad cholesterol dropped from 259 to 175 and my good cholesterol went from 36 up to 69 within the first three months during which time my regime consisted entirely of a two hour brisk walk each day on doctor's orders (I was in a real bad way).

I certainly wouldn't recommend that kind of programme to anyone (who the hell has two hours to spare exclusively for exercise?) and I know I would have fared much better if I had seriously curtailed my appetite.

I guess, you know, do as I say not as I do.

Kosher is mostly about cleanliness and blessings. It's fooey. It has nothing to do with the well being of the animal.

If you have ever watched the kosher slaughter of a cow you would know that.

Eat whatever you like. The Darwinian consequences will prove the success or otherwise of your diet. If your diet ends up making you attractive to others of a similar mind then you have a good chance of propagating - assuming that the diet doesn't diminish your fertility. If you get sickly, or die before reproducing, then once again nature has demonstrated its powers to eliminate the weak, even in a technological rather than agrarian culture. Your absence will have helped strengthen the root stock of the human race.

Pep (Omnivore)

Well slaughter is never going to be pleasant. You won't find kosher chickens with breasts breed so large the poor chicken cannot even stand, and stuck in cages where it is acceptable for 10% of the population to die before slaughter.

Free range, organic, it is all scams to get more money from you. Gelsons in L.A. charges like $14 bucks for an organic chicken, $22 bucks for it rotisserie style. I do prefer to buy free range when buying for my family and buy a lot of local fruits/veggies/farm meat at my local Farmers Market on Wednesdays and Saturdays. But for the most part, the best thing about organic is the lack of growth hormones, anti-biotics, and other chemical treatments they shoot the animals full of.

I do not understand how letting a chicken free range and not giving it hormones and chemicals makes it more expensive.

I guess if you want to be a humane carnivore you really need to look into how the animal is raised, kept, and slaughtered.

I addressed the hypocrisy of eating chicken in my post.

i do not!
eating well does not mean eating like a glutton.

anyhow.. you seem to have put a lot of thought into this so I am sure you do not need my feeble attempts at pointing out that there is maybe some kind of middle range for those who do not eat meat for moral reasons.

/me is having his weight problem solved by this thread.

Pep (Bulimia - induced by Briana and Nina's posts.)

you would not believe how important that is really..my family owns a working ranch where we breed over 40 Tennessee walking horses ..we had cut down from over 100 horses because it became too much to give the attention needed so we sold down to 40..plus have over 50 head of cattle..
we grow our own feed and hay all organic no genetic manipulated feed..so they are lean and also have well over 200 acres to graze on one side alone..when they start rubbing and pushing on gates we move them to another 200 acres of ungrazed land..this keeps them very mellow..plus only one bull to the heard which we switch off every 4 years to stop any inbreeding..

when we decide it is time for a few to go to be processed we bring them into the barn each getting their own stall for 30 days..this mellows them out..then we guide them to the trailer and off to be processed where we stand and watch to make sure they are done separately as to not cause a rush of stress which can put bad taste into the meat..
it happens so fast they never know it..

we never take anymore than our family can store in our freezers..we don't sell to the public..it is so fat free that you have to add olive oil to cook it..

same with our chickens which we only use for the eggs..a store bought egg yoke will be yellow and bland looking and almost flat compared to our farm eggs where they are orange and the yoke stands up in a half ball shape..

if it's not organic fed we won't touch it..you won't get sol manila from the farm either..that happens from machines in big processing plants..

but stress free organic life is very important for the outcome of meats and poultry..

It's a shame with such high standards that you don't sell. Finding an operation like yours is difficult but if I could I would consider going back to beef. There are lots of places advertising cruelty free and all but I guess I'm just jaded to marketing. Am I actually supposed to visit the farm? I doubt most farmers want city folk tromping around their property.

Wow thanks for the informative post.

I have some questions.

Does feeding them an organic diet more expensive or less expensive? What about hormones and antibiotic treatments?

My inlaws have a farm and yea the eggs yolks are orange and hard as heck to crack....eggs just make me queasy, and they love to give them to us by the many dozen.

might make nice dog food.
:yuk:

For me, grains are evil. I cannot digest any wheat gluten or I will literally starve to death, because it blocks the ability to absorb nutrients from food.

Wheat allergies are more common than we think, because it often goes undiagnosed. I can eat a sandwich, a slice of pizza or a plate of spaghetti with no ill effects (unless I eat nothing but), it just doesn't do me any good.

An Atkins diet for example might work for some, but can seriously harm others, by significantly raising the levels of uric acid in the blood and exacerbating gout/arthritis.

Fad diets are often very misleading. "Fat Free" does not mean not fattening. More often than not, these so-called products are highly processed and lack real nutrients, loaded in salt or sugars or other detrimental compounds. 2% milk is a scam. It's milk that has the profitable portion removed, leaving behind nothing but sugar water (lactose). Using it does not by virtue mean you will reduce, only lowering intake or cutting it out altogether will do that. Even fresh fruit and juices are loaded with sugars and acids.

If anyone must diet, then it's wise to pick a diet that suits your taste and cravings. There is a direct connection with physical and mental processes in many cases, so if you are not enjoying what you eat, then you suffer for it mentally, which only leads to other issues.

Vegetarians choose to be so for different reasons. Some don't like killing animals, some don't like the processes and some don't like how it tastes or reacts. All very different from each other.

The key being, there is no substitution for moderation, balance and exersize.

Some people can eat anything and never gain an ounce, while some think about food, they gain.

My point being, the OP should consult their doctor and have allergy tests, BMI index rating, cholesterol screen etc. and a general physical. We differ from each other, widely.

if it's dog food then i guess a lot of people like dog food lol

yea that is sad.

Luckily there are a few seed banks that sell seeds that are the same genetically now as they were 50+ years ago. And you can buy them in bulk or for specific setups like 1acre growing a variety to feed a small family throughout the year.

Nina ages her rack of rib eye until its damn near rotten.

There was a case in Canada a few years ago, where the wind blown seed of canola (rapeseed) propogated a neighbors farm. The farmer allowed it to grow and harvested the seed (as farmers have done for centuries). He was sued by the neighbor and lost. To add insult to injury, had to buy seed for the next year's rotation.

That's really f**ked up.

no it doesn't cost more because we grow our own feed..why people are charging more for organic kind of defeats the purpose if you ask me..

if your cattle is raised right you won't need to inject anything into them..the feed is high in protien and everything they need..if we notice anything wrong with any one of the cattle we pull it from the heard and put it in a stall and have it looked at from the vet...i think our hay itself is well into the 25% range for protein on our first cut then goes up after the seed replants itself from being scattered from the first cut..the second cut we always keep for our stock and the first cut is sold off..
the only time they are injected with anything is if one were to become ill..
we have nothing but black angus and the last bull which we had just sold for a new one was not lacking in anything..the meat at a store when i go shopping looks rotten compared to what is in my freezer..i look over at the meat section and my tummy starts to actually turn..i was shopping with my nephews one time and stopped by the meat section and one of them said.ewww that looks old...hahahaha i couldn't help but break down and laugh..

we also grow our own corn which humans and live stock can eat..

as far as the eggs go..lol ya us egg growers end up giving a lot of eggs away..they just don't stop laying them..they do when it gets colder but when they go to laying eggs i get about 4 a day from my 4 hens..i have a pen for them which they can fly out of if they want..it's more to keep things out than keep them in..as soon as the sun touches the tree's they are on their perch in the shed lol

i have a few dozen eggs if you need any lol

I've decided to cut the eggs (nurse friend said they are high in protein, but high in cholesterol) and add nuts, fish (mmm salmon), and legumes to diet. But, before I do, what do legumes taste like?