homestead lag
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nikita Jefferson
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01-18-2009 11:57
Is it just me or is anyone else with a homestead experiencing bad lag. Before the conversions to homesteads my OS was completely lag free and that's since last march so i have been on my island for a while, I was experiencing some lag since the conversions.just a very minor amount but today was like walking though mud. I know SL had been experiencing database problems lately and i hope that's all it is,because to pay more for tier and get worse performance is not right,i was expecting at least the same performance as before the conversions,not worse. Looking at my lag meter when i had the lag showed green in all 3
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Ceka Cianci
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01-18-2009 12:04
i was doing some building in a homestead sim and really as i was doing the build i could notice big differences as it went on until i finished it..
definatly not the performance of a sim with it's own CPU for sure.. i would think being in a share cpu type of sim that one or the other could affect how your sim performs..kind of like a 4 sim mainland thing.. i'm not expert but it sounds possible..
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 13:52
Why would the performance be any better than on an Openspace? They are all still sharing 16 to a server instead of the 4 per server for a full island or mainland sim.
I get customer reports all the time of performance related issues with a system I make and when I look into each case further every single report has come from someone using it on an Openspace (and more recently a Homestead) sim. Now my system is very low impact on sim resources for what it does but is a networked system and does rely on (potentially) many non-linked objects being able to communicate properly. These are the first things that suffer and break down on such sims when the server is overloaded. I have started telling people who buy my system that they use it at their own risk on an Openspace or a Homestead sim, sometimes it might work fine, at other times it may not - I cannot give any guarantees when the load of other sims on the same server are mostly the cause. It is not welcome news but there is not really anything that can be done at the moment.
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Tarina Sewell
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01-18-2009 13:56
I have to pay more for the pleasure of more lag than I ever had.. wonderful
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:06
From: Tarina Sewell I have to pay more for the pleasure of more lag than I ever had.. wonderful I don't see how, Openspaces and Homesteads are still the cheapest of all sims to own or rent. Even a mainland sim will cost you anywhere from USD 1200 upwards to buy and USD 195 tier a month if you pay LL, I doubt any rental people will rent you a whole sim for much less than USD 195 a month either.
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Ceka Cianci
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01-18-2009 14:07
i always wonders how many they had per server .. they have 16 OS on one server?? 16 sims 4 cpu vs 4 sims 4 cpu no wonder.
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Ciaran Laval
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01-18-2009 14:10
From: Gabriele Graves I don't see how, Openspaces and Homesteads are still the cheapest of all sims to own or rent. Even a mainland sim will cost you anywhere from USD 1200 upwards to buy and USD 195 tier a month if you pay LL, I doubt any rental people will rent you a whole sim for much less than USD 195 a month either. The price just went up, so anyone with a Homestead is paying more than they were. I saw a post in another thread where someone said they had been running tests for some time and now the performance on homesteads was worse than ever.
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nikita Jefferson
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01-18-2009 14:17
From: Gabriele Graves Why would the performance be any better than on an Openspace? They are all still sharing 16 to a server instead of the 4 per server for a full island or mainland sim.
I get customer reports all the time of performance related issues with a system I make and when I look into each case further every single report has come from someone using it on an Openspace (and more recently a Homestead) sim. Now my system is very low impact on sim resources for what it does but is a networked system and does rely on (potentially) many non-linked objects being able to communicate properly. These are the first things that suffer and break down on such sims when the server is overloaded. I have started telling people who buy my system that they use it at their own risk on an Openspace or a Homestead sim, sometimes it might work fine, at other times it may not - I cannot give any guarantees when the load of other sims on the same server are mostly the cause. It is not welcome news but there is not really anything that can be done at the moment. perhaps you could answer why then,at the very time my OS was converted to a homestead performance degraded when i previously enjoyed 10 months of lag free performance, All i want is what i always had a lag free island.i don't expect it to be any better just what i always had. But since the conversion from OS to homestead performance had degraded
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Tarina Sewell
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01-18-2009 14:19
From: Gabriele Graves I don't see how, Openspaces and Homesteads are still the cheapest of all sims to own or rent. Even a mainland sim will cost you anywhere from USD 1200 upwards to buy and USD 195 tier a month if you pay LL, I doubt any rental people will rent you a whole sim for much less than USD 195 a month either. I was paying 75.00 now I pay 95.00.. soon 125.00... this is an increase regardless of value. And if in fact preformance is down, as you seem to state you have noticed...per customer complaints... "I get customer reports all the time of performance related issues with a system I make and when I look into each case further every single report has come from someone using it on an Openspace (and more recently a Homestead) sim." Also, I do not rent I own a regular and a homestead and we had plans of adding 2 more at the time OS.. I'm sorry this is a hobby for me and as hobbies go... to me a regualr working class jane that IS something I find to be an increase.
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nikita Jefferson
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01-18-2009 14:19
From: Gabriele Graves I don't see how, Openspaces and Homesteads are still the cheapest of all sims to own or rent. Even a mainland sim will cost you anywhere from USD 1200 upwards to buy and USD 195 tier a month if you pay LL, I doubt any rental people will rent you a whole sim for much less than USD 195 a month either. What we are trying to say here is we always enjoyed (at least i did)lag free performance and since the price increase and conversion,performance has changed for the worse
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:31
From: Ciaran Laval The price just went up, so anyone with a Homestead is paying more than they were. I saw a post in another thread where someone said they had been running tests for some time and now the performance on homesteads was worse than ever. I am aware of the pricing changes, if you read closely I said they were still the cheapest of all sims and they are. USD 95 tier a month is still less than USD 195 for a mainland sim last time I did math.
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:33
From: nikita Jefferson perhaps you could answer why then,at the very time my OS was converted to a homestead performance degraded when i previously enjoyed 10 months of lag free performance, All i want is what i always had a lag free island.i don't expect it to be any better just what i always had. But since the conversion from OS to homestead performance had degraded I don't think the two are related, there has been a huge slow down generally in SL performance since around that time. All sims are noticing performance problems, not just homesteads and openspaces.
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:34
From: nikita Jefferson What we are trying to say here is we always enjoyed (at least i did)lag free performance and since the price increase and conversion,performance has changed for the worse See my comment above.
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Tarina Sewell
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01-18-2009 14:35
Your point is taken. I have never owned on mainland though and always private island. But the point of the post is not value but the lag we are getting now... as were my point... One of the main reasons I do not own or never did on main land is because of the lag.... But its cool we understand where you come from; ) for somethign as silly as "virtual land" lol who can measure its worth or value but the ones paying the bill. ; )
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Ceka Cianci
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01-18-2009 14:38
i blame the media..but i do that every time we get a rush into sl anyways..because there has been a scandal somewhere someplace and logins go up 10,000 to 15,000 everytime there is..
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:40
From: Tarina Sewell Your point is taken. I have never owned on mainland though and always private island. But the point of the post is not value but the lag we are getting now... as were my point... One of the main reasons I do not own or never did on main land is because of the lag.... But its cool we understand where you come from; ) for somethign as silly as "virtual land" lol who can measure its worth or value but the ones paying the bill. ; ) Lag is not inherent in mainland. Some is laggy, some is not - it depends on where you live and what is there. I live on a coastal mainland sim where I own nearly 3/4 of it and it performs just as well as any full island, better than a lot I have visited but then the residents are fewer and we are more careful about what we do there. My point of view on Openspaces/Homesteads? It is the privacy you are paying for and not the performance. Privacy is the killer feature of Openspaces/Homesteads at that price point. You are not even spec'd to get as much performance as a mainland sim.
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Tarina Sewell
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01-18-2009 14:41
yes.. so and so was found with a monkey suit and a hamster avatar who they kidnapped and used the wheel to create a giant "attachment"... I hear they stole a car and plan on taking out all the strippers tip jars... and.. tp everyone they see to the england sim.... just a rumor though...
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:43
I am sorry but I understood nothing of your post - perhaps you could put your point across another way?
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Ciaran Laval
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01-18-2009 14:45
From: Gabriele Graves I am aware of the pricing changes, if you read closely I said they were still the cheapest of all sims and they are. USD 95 tier a month is still less than USD 195 for a mainland sim last time I did math. I read you saying that you don't see how someone was paying more. 95 was more than 75 last time I did Maths.
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Clubside Granville
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01-18-2009 14:48
With sim closings the Lab is likely consolidating the deployments. Perhaps before your CPU neighbors weren't running many scripts or using a lot of resources, but now maybe you are sharing processor time with more intensively-used sims.
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:48
From: Ciaran Laval I read you saying that you don't see how someone was paying more. 95 was more than 75 last time I did Maths. Hmmm I took them to meaning more than the cheapest sim at 4 per server - which is mainland of course. Having read it again I see that they probably did mean more than they had been for the OpenSpace.
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Ciaran Laval
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01-18-2009 14:54
From: Gabriele Graves Hmmm I took them to meaning more than the cheapest sim at 4 per server - which is mainland of course.
Having read it again I see that they probably did mean more than they had been for the OpenSpace. Ah fair point, I can now see what you were trying to say at least 
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 14:57
From: Ciaran Laval Ah fair point, I can now see what you were trying to say at least  
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Briana Dawson
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01-18-2009 15:18
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Gabriele Graves
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01-18-2009 15:24
Thanks for that Briana 
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