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Joshooah Lovenkraft
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01-04-2010 11:52
From: Lindal Kidd
This part of M's "ten year look ahead" is gas:

"SLHD blurs the distinction between real and virtual. New tools and capabilities for content creation and animation together with enhanced graphics and multi-sensory rendering enable SLHD (Second Life in High Definition) to blur the distinction between real and virtual. You pet a chicken and feel the smooth texture of its feathers. You bend down to smell a rose and, well, you smell a rose. "

This is the sort of thing an executive who has no concept of technology is apt to say. Implementing touch, taste, and smell is incredibly harder than engaging the senses of sight and sound. Frankly, until there is such a thing as a direct plugin interface to the brain's sensory centers, I don't foresee this happening, simply because the necessary peripheral hardware would be too expensive and/or uncomfortable for the mainstream computer user.

It makes me wonder what else he's wrong about.


It wasn't roses I was smelling while reading some parts of that blog post ...
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01-04-2010 11:54
The real name option is something that is very needed by many people in SL, especially those here for business purposes. A friend of mine, who is a musician, finds it very frustrating that she can't use her real last name here. She knows other musicians who haven't joined SL because they can't perform under their own name. It's a major impediment to building a consistent brand across social media.

When I joined SL in 2007, I was very frustrated by the limited last name choices. I have used the name Ayesha online since 1996, so it's part of my "brand" as such, but "Lytton"? Meh, I still don't love it.

Since I have so much inventory on this avatar, I'll keep using it primarily, but I'll also want an av with my real name, or some kind of link between my real name and this av, so people can find me. So here's one big thumbs up for this change!
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01-04-2010 11:55
From: Lindal Kidd
This is the sort of thing an executive who has no concept of technology is apt to say.
I liked the bit about people having a 3D scanner built into their mobile phone that "auto-magically" imports content into SL :p.

I guess he didn't give much thought about the some rather interesting copyright concerns that would raise either even if it was possible on that scale (and why would you still buy anything in-world then: just go to Ikea and "scan" the entire store to decorate your SL home with).
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01-04-2010 11:58
From: Kitty Barnett
I liked the bit about people having a 3D scanner built into their mobile phone that "auto-magically" imports content into SL :p.

I guess he didn't give much thought about the some rather interesting copyright concerns that would raise either even if it was possible on that scale (and why would you still buy anything in-world then: just go to Ikea and "scan" the entire store to decorate your SL home with).


I had the same thought.

Maybe he was trying to be visionary?
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01-04-2010 11:59
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft
It wasn't roses I was smelling while reading some parts of that blog post ...


M probably didn't have Rose Petals in his nose either when he wrote it. :rolleyes:

Giving people the option to use their real names and such with SL is fine and dandy, I can see why business and artistic types would want to, but I can imagine the carnage that may ensue when the internet loonies get ahold of people's real names.
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01-04-2010 12:00
I was picturing the crappy quality of a lot of catalog photos...honestly, current content creators often do much better.
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01-04-2010 12:27
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft
- viewer 2.0 is coming in Q1 2010
I believe that was last years message, only it was called viewer 2009... new name, same product...

From: someone
- additional payment options
well it'd be nice if gift cards work, but I hope we don't see gaming cards like the various reup packages out there.

From: someone
- new "social tools"
like links to facebook? please no.

From: someone
- The ability to choose either real names or fantasy names in Second Life
didn't we already have that (almost) with the vanity name and custom surname policy? it would be nice if that feature wasn't buried away and made more accessible though.

From: someone
- Content management and protection tools, including a viewer and seller directory
- rebranded and redesigned e-commerce experience, simplified for shoppers and merchants, segmented for play/work, supported by filtered search and giving merchants new tools to manage their product lines and businesses.

translation, we're going to dumb it down even farther, and make the powerful tools harder to find...

From: someone
- A renewed focus on opensource development

I like Open source, but I'm not so sure this is a good idea...

From: someone
- more functionality (like HTTP-IN) and new API to the developer community as fuel for new innovative, user-generated content and tools.

can we make the http-in behave properly so it'll work with the largely available market? =/

From: someone
- allowing content creators to use a much richer language for scripting (C#) that will open up Second Life to a larger community of developers

wihtout some much needed documentation (all the user documentation on the wiki notwithstanding) I see this as being more, not less confusing

From: someone
-Extension of our data center and network infrastructure to Europe

good in the sense that crappy ping times to locally held content will be resolved, bad in that where assest are contained will determine your best choice for marketing... assuming you get to choose at all.
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Ann Otoole
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01-04-2010 12:44
From: Veritable Quandry
I would also like to see inventory move across grids, and was hoping that efforts to move between SL and OpenSim grids would lead to a decentralized 3D internet, but for that to really work LL has to give up some control. So I'm not holding my breath.

I also like the note about SL becoming a universe of grids, which sounds like what BM is creating: a platform with connected worlds running on LL servers. This I can see, and may be a way to do several interesting things, like move the adult content to a grid that can be blocked either for age reasons or political reasons (if they want to see China and other restrictive governments allow access to SL from the firewalled official systems), or to allow content that is leagal in some regions but not others (blocking US access to a Caribbean or European server would allow for legal casinos to return to SL).

So if there was intergrid transport and you could push a button and everything go to OSgrid, Opensim, or reactiongrid, exactly what do you think would happen? SL concurrency would plummet.

The only thing keeping people in SL right now is the difficulty migrating out and the fact the other grids are not 100% compatible or have enough infrastructure to meet the demand of the exodus. But this condition will not last forever.

Don't be expecting Linden Lab to make much of an effort in paving a one way intergalactic highway out of SL.

I went to OSGrid last night. For about 5 minutes. I really don't feel like having to start from zero again. It is sad that that is all SL has going for it anymore.
Ann Otoole
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01-04-2010 12:50
From: Ayesha Lytton
The real name option is something that is very needed by many people in SL, especially those here for business purposes. A friend of mine, who is a musician, finds it very frustrating that she can't use her real last name here. She knows other musicians who haven't joined SL because they can't perform under their own name. It's a major impediment to building a consistent brand across social media.

When I joined SL in 2007, I was very frustrated by the limited last name choices. I have used the name Ayesha online since 1996, so it's part of my "brand" as such, but "Lytton"? Meh, I still don't love it.

Since I have so much inventory on this avatar, I'll keep using it primarily, but I'll also want an av with my real name, or some kind of link between my real name and this av, so people can find me. So here's one big thumbs up for this change!

Tell your friend how to create a group and create a group tag that is the real name.
Sorted.

Tell your friend how to fill in a profile with real name info.
Sorted.

Tell your friend how to create events and classifieds, etc. using teal life info.
Sorted.

Nothing is stopping anyone from putting their real life name on anything in SL. And your friend could have paid for a vanity account already.

Must be some other problem going on. Or some other motivation for saying they can't do what they could do if they felt like it.
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01-04-2010 13:14
As I noticed before but didn't harp on in the blog was that M seems to have put the discussion thread as a question..

Who will get points for providing the correct answer???
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Seven Okelli
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01-04-2010 13:15
From: Sindy Tsure
As I noticed before but didn't harp on in the blog was that M seems to have put the discussion thread as a question..

Who will get points for providing the correct answer???


Ha! I did ask him to mark the correct answer. (Saw your post after, I swear!)
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01-04-2010 13:51
From: Seven Okelli
Maybe he was trying to be visionary?


There's "being a visionary"...

...and then there's "being uninclined to think things through, but being VERY inclined to neglect/exploit current customers on the belief that The Future Customers Of My Vision Will Make This Company Rich, So Who Cares About The Current Customers!?!?"
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01-04-2010 13:55
From: Ponsonby Low
There's "being a visionary"...


I was trying to be nice. ;)
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01-04-2010 14:00
Ann - those are a bit complex for most people to bother searching out though, and paying for a real name currently is a lot of money.

I have a different dilemma. My real name is already an avatar name and it's already taken too.
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01-04-2010 14:01
From: Seven Okelli
I was trying to be nice. ;)



I think you were being accurate, too. I think he IS trying to be a visionary...and I don't criticize him for that.

'Vision' has an important place in the business world.

What I do criticize him for is the aforementioned 'being uninclined to think things through', and for the also-aforementioned penchant for dismissing current customers in favor of the customers LL might have in that future in which touch and smell are part of the computer interface (and comps that can run SL are cheap and plentiful, and all other technical bars to the Visions have been solved).

That future is years away. Maybe only a few years, but years nonetheless.

And my point is that it's poor business to ignore the customers you have, and the customers you could fairly easily get, in favor of the hypothetical customers that lie years ahead in a hypothetical future.
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01-04-2010 14:07
From: Melita Magic
I have a different dilemma. My real name is already an avatar name and it's already taken too.
I bet that "real" avatar names will be extended with invisible metadata so that there can be 4000 "Ann Smith"s in SL, as in real life, and an overlap with legacy avatar names will be no issue. As in most social networking sites, it will probably be the user's job to figure out which "Ann Smith" they're looking for when they search!

Btw, M has been responding to some of the earlier posts on the Flog discussion.
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01-04-2010 14:12
From: Nika Talaj

Btw, M has been responding to some of the earlier posts on the Flog discussion.
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Really?

So far I have mostly avoided the flogorums...Link?
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01-04-2010 14:18
https://blogs.secondlife.com/thread/6935?start=30&tstart=0
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01-04-2010 14:19
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01-04-2010 14:21
from M's blog post:

From: someone
A rebranded and redesigned e-commerce experience, simplified for shoppers and merchants, segmented for play/work



"Segmented for play/work"....does he mean there will be one XStreet-successor* you can log onto at work that will be 'boss-safe', and another with, ahem, ALL the content that you can log onto when home and At Play.....?

Or, instead, does this 'segmenting' refer to content for developers/builders (at work) being segregated from content for shoppers (at play)?


*the rebranding he mentions will surely result in a new name for the site.
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01-04-2010 14:21
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft
More details in the offical blog posting above. So what do you think?


What do I think? *looks down at card*

BINGO!! :D
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01-04-2010 14:31
From: Ponsonby Low
"Segmented for play/work"....does he mean there will be one XStreet-successor* you can log onto at work that will be 'boss-safe', and another with, ahem, ALL the content that you can log onto when home and At Play.....?
He means they are introducing the "SL Work Marketplace" (http://work.secondlife.com/en-US/worksolutions/marketplace/), a version of XStreet aimed at the SL Enterprise product, as well as at inworld sims that are extensions of RL workplaces and schools. These folks: http://work.secondlife.com/en-US/

The Work Marketplace content will be provided by LL-approved providers, and will include real software applications that will tailor SL to business/collaboration needs. It will probably resemble the Office Depot site more than XStreet.
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01-04-2010 15:14
so none of the stuff in 2010 I'd like to see....how about :

tier restructuring, with better pricing for long term members...

the ability to pay fixed rates in our own currency independent of the value of the dollar and without the need to go through three parties to do it...

introduction of mega prims as standard....

new building tools especially those designed to compliment use of megaprims...being able to apply text to builds in world for example I would say is a long time overdue

new shapes of prim to enhance and improve 'the building experience' and the ablity to cut holes any shape on multiple surfaces

regional boundary stability...

more to encourage use vehicles on land, at sea and in the air and to enable those of us who enjoy transportation to use it properly without the wide variety of hindrances against travellers in sl now....

improving the hands and feet of avvys so we dont look as if we've been struck by frostbite....

Lindens actually admitting the importance of its premium membership and doing something for those of us who feel that by our continued support financially for linden labs expect a little more for our cash rather than this sense that we're expected to be grateful to pay to come to sl.
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01-04-2010 15:51
From: Maelstrom Janus

new shapes of prim to enhance and improve 'the building experience' and the ablity to cut holes any shape on multiple surfaces
Constructive Solid Geometry. Unlikely to happen, they're more into out-of-world building tools these days. :(
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01-04-2010 15:54
From: Nika Talaj
He means they are introducing the "SL Work Marketplace" (http://work.secondlife.com/en-US/worksolutions/marketplace/), a version of XStreet aimed at the SL Enterprise product, as well as at inworld sims that are extensions of RL workplaces and schools. These folks: http://work.secondlife.com/en-US/

The Work Marketplace content will be provided by LL-approved providers, and will include real software applications that will tailor SL to business/collaboration needs. It will probably resemble the Office Depot site more than XStreet.
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Ah, thanks. I had heard of this in passing but hadn't seen a URL.
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