Race in SL

You didn't answer my question.


By the way Jig, in the US, the new definition of a racist is "Anyone winning an argument with a liberal"

Scylla, I know you are. I consider you a friend and a good person, even when we do disagree.

Are you sure about confronting only the "victim" or are you equally angered when I drive a fancy car and wear great clothes and have all the things you think I don't deserve coz I don't have a "redneck"? You ever been stopped by a cop time and again coz you're in the "wrong neighbourhood"? You know why I live as far away from people as I can get? It's so I can breathe fresh air, away from the crap that I have to put up with from societies that refuse to accept a coloured, intelligent, irreverent, and political woman who won't say "yes massa, no massa, three bags full massa" to anyone, black or white.

YAY!!!!

Except that your still not answering my question.

It's possible the other people were roleplaying - the OP did say it is a sim with, basically, racism built in.

Not knowing more about the sim or hearing from any of the other people I can't really make a fair judgment.

However I will also not judge the experience of the OP since I have not walked in her skin, either RL or SL.

(It's kind of like when -some- men assume they can fully understand being female, because they put on a female avatar. Or - well - anyone who assumes they can fully understand anyone else's experiences, really. I'm not that silly.)

It seemed to me that the OP was expressing amusement, not wallowing in anything.

I wonder how they'd treat an African Hunting Dog.

Oh for God's sake Scylla don't **** up to the man.

As long as you work to earn the money to buy what you have, I don't care what you own. As for the rest, I don't bow before any man so we are alot alike in that.

I have been threatened with arrest for being mouthy. I have been told that "People like you shouldn't have rights." Just because I didn't bow and scrape before a badge.

This.

I have NOTHING in common with the likes of you in rl or sl.

And it's "a lot" NOT "alot"

LOL so true

I considered the whole post to be wallowing. If he wants a skin to show a certain race he cannot find, then he should make one or pay someone else to make one. Not put the blame on white people.

Oh God, it's white supremacy day on the forums.

Well i am one of the rare chineses in SL and am proud to admit it to all ppl that i meet first time, and maybe i was lucky or maybe it's the majority here, but most ppl seemed to be quite friendly and didn't react any differently to before they knew my race.

Though i'd like more choices of chinese looking avatars, that would be cool.

Your loss.

I am curious which this is, so I can send people there if asked about a multi cultural type of skin store.

LOL. Don't WHAT??????

Jig, Chris, from an early time in my experiences on this forum, when I didn't "get it," and people didn't "get" me, and I was being flamed left, right, and centre, was one of the relatively few who took the time and made the effort to ensure that I understood that his opposition to my views was not personal; he went so far, in fact, to invite me to the Hangout.

I am only being half-serious when I say "I am still being affectionate," but at the same time, I do respect Chris (and others I disagree with here), and it is worth the effort and the goofiness to ensure that they know that. This debate can easily become a poisonous as any we've had on this forum; I don't want that to happen.

Yep...

I get that in RL too.

As well as the usual "You speak English? E...n...g...l...i...s...h?" and "you an illegal or what?"

Well, yes, I do speak English, and half my ancestors -walked- here, did yours? But no, I don't speak Spanish? But if you're looking for an illegal, try those blonds over there that are chattering away in Ukrainian...

Oh, I do offer a 'mocha / chocolate' dollarbe skin in my shop. Made for the exact reasons you mention - but as a dollarbe for newbies to have something.

I need to make a dollarbe 'red / tan / brown' skin now too.

A number of explosive topics lately, I have noticed.

No Chris, it's not "Your Loss" - it's "OUR loss".

We'll never communicate at any level - you despise anyone who doesnt fit your glove of social rules and regulations and expectations. I can't come to any discussion or debate with you without feeling angered and upset in real.

We both lose coz maybe you might have some shred of decency in you. But you would patronize me just as I would patronize you. We both lose out.

Must be the weather?

People who are not white who complain that they get treated wrong are racists or 'professional victims' creating situations to complain about.
People who are white who complain that they get treated wrong are victims of reverse discrimination.

- the new paradigm now. Its all flipped back to the old days using those tools, thanks to Conservatives being in power just a little too long...

Interestingly, when I first came to SL in May 2007, I was told by many people, including total strangers!, that I was "too white." By that I mean they didn't like the paler skin I wear.

In RL my skin *is* naturally fair. I also have red hair and blue eyes. I'm the type that enjoys having my avatar reflect my RL looks as does the OP if I'm understanding the post correctly. And I really had to hunt to find a skin I liked that wasn't too yellow or pink or wasn't "Goth white." At that time, the majority of avatars I saw, imo, looked like they had spent way too much time in a tanning booth. Now I'm starting to see a broader spectrum of skin tones as well as skins that better reflect a more *ahem* mature woman.

But I was really getting tired of especially the strangers who said, "Why is your skin so pale?" I guess there's no pleasing some people. The point was *I* liked it. End of story.



That happens to me often.

Maybe I should work on the affectionate angle; I think my redheaded fiery temper precedes me.

I'm off for fresh air. I cannot respect a man who posts with the sobriquet "Loud Arrogant Redneck" - it's a red flag to anyone who knows what engenders racism. This person may have been decent to you, but in all the time I have been here, I have never felt anything but this person's dislike of anyone with views who dont coincide with the ones expressed.

Racism is NOT a game. It's not a roleplay. There's no advantage to espousing opposite views to gain effect. It's vile by any standards.

I still think you are hugely overreacting. I am not going to try to convince you that there aren't people who don't "wallow" or use race as an "excuse," but (like Argent), I don't see any of that in the OP. The post is coolly detached and mildly ironic, NOT carping, wallowing, or complaining.

To accuse ANYONE who brings up the issue of race as someone playing "the race card" badly undercuts the credibility of that accusation when it is used where it is actually applicable. Just as complaining about racism where it isn't really in effect undercuts legitimate complaints about real racism (which is what you are implicitly arguing).