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Maureen Boccaccio

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07-15-2009 05:33

nope!

Maureen Boccaccio

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07-15-2009 05:34

From: Madhu Maruti

I think for many of us the unique shape is part of what helps us identify with our avatars. I have had to reject animations for my AO that I might otherwise have liked, because they made my hands sink into my hips or had similar issues. It's too bad that not all animations work for all people, but the overwhelming response on this thread so far seems to show we'd rather have our personal shapes and forego some of the animations.

I have a hug and kiss HUD that includes 5 different animations for each avatar for each hug and kiss inside of it. It automatically detects the heights of the avatars involved in the embrace and selects from those 5 animations. The result is really very nice. It's a lot more work for the creator - both creating the additional animations and writing in the additional scripting - but it yields a more immersive result.

oooh, Madhu...*waves* where did you get that HUD?

Rioko Bamaisin

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07-15-2009 06:01

I made myself a little heavier since i was a stick figure

... but that's about it.

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Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

07-15-2009 06:11

Would I choose only to be the "Ruth" Shape? Heck no. I have 80+ different forms, ranging in height from Tiny's to a huge dragon. It would make SL worthless to me if everyone had to be one shape for males, and one for females, and everyone was the same height and shape for their gender. May as well scrap the 3D completely and go back to text RP.

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Argent Stonecutter

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07-15-2009 06:46

From: Bree Giffen

Would you change your shape and size if all animations were made for it? If all furniture and vehicles, and houses, and clothes, shoes, hair, were made for it? If you could hold hands or kiss lips? Would it be worth it to be all the same shape? One shape for females and one for males?

If I wanted to look like everyone else in the game... well, I know where to find there.com.

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Madhu Maruti

aka Carter Denja

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07-15-2009 07:13

From: Tali Rosca

This is one of the most common errors in proportion; too short arms. So if an animation is made for that, somebody with realistic arm length will see this a lot.
It is so common that I think short arms is actually the standard in SL, which makes it a bit of dilemma for an animator. Should s/he support the large customer base, or make something "correct", as per actual human proportions.

*nods* It's partly because of my arm length; partly because both my shapes have wider hips and more body fat than the typical avatar. Lots and lots of female avatars with more realistic, less idealized body shapes have this problem.

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Madhu Maruti

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07-15-2009 07:15

From: Maureen Boccaccio

oooh, Madhu...*waves* where did you get that HUD?

*sigh* If I could have remembered the name, I'd have said so in my post, because I knew someone would ask.

I will look it up when I get in world tonight - expect an IM from Carter. *grins*

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Riseon Kosten

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07-15-2009 07:37

Absolutely not.

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Riseon Kosten

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07-15-2009 07:39

From: Madhu Maruti

*sigh* If I could have remembered the name, I'd have said so in my post, because I knew someone would ask.

I will look it up when I get in world tonight - expect an IM from Carter. *grins*

Meike TM Designs & Animations

I LOVE that hugger hehe. It has a slow dance! Yay no having to rez anything! *giggle*

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Czari Zenovka

I've Had it With "PC"!

Join date: 3 May 2007

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07-15-2009 09:26

From: Riseon Kosten

Absolutely not.

This!

I really like the combo of shape/skin/overall look I have and would not change it.

I have 2 other alts. One has the same shape as Czari but slightly different skin (and ears since she's an elf *grins*) and the other is a very petite Japanese AV who looks VERY different from Czari but I enjoy taking her out in Japanese sims every so often. So if I ever want a slightly different "look" I have the alts. The funny thing is, though, I rarely do so. The elven alt has become my backup inventory "mule" (a term from EQ) and the Japanese alt my banker to help keep Czari on a budget. *grins*

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Seven Okelli

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Join date: 4 Dec 2008

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07-15-2009 10:27

Even though many things don't work in a realistic way or don't fit without tweaks, I can't think of anything that would make me change my shape. Aside from my own desire to *look* different.

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Argent Stonecutter

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07-15-2009 10:33

What I would like to know is... what was the reason for the original post?

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Milla Janick

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07-15-2009 10:49

From: Argent Stonecutter

What I would like to know is... what was the reason for the original post?

It's probably LL's next great idea.

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Maggie McArdle

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07-15-2009 11:59

change? no
tweak? yes

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Smith Peel

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07-15-2009 12:03

Change my shape? Yer lucky if I change my pants

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Imnotgoing Sideways

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07-15-2009 12:17

From: Smith Peel

Change my shape? Yer lucky if I change my pants

What is this "pants" thing you refer to? (O.o)

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Darien Caldwell

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07-15-2009 12:18

Nope, never changing my shape permanently. I do wear different avatars sometimes, but I always go back to my shape, it's who I am.

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Malia Writer

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07-15-2009 13:07

From: Bree Giffen

Would you change your shape and size if all animations were made for it? If all furniture and vehicles, and houses, and clothes, shoes, hair, were made for it? If you could hold hands or kiss lips? Would it be worth it to be all the same shape? One shape for females and one for males?

Considering that most of those things are NOT the right size/shape for my avatar, I guess the answer is "no".

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Bradley Bracken

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Join date: 2 Apr 2007

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07-15-2009 13:08

From: Darien Caldwell

Nope, never changing my shape permanently. I do wear different avatars sometimes, but I always go back to my shape, it's who I am.

Darien said it all for me. No Way

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Bree Giffen

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Join date: 22 Jun 2006

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07-15-2009 13:18

Wow I didn't expect such a resounding 'no' response! I really don't have any underlying purpose for this question. Just curious. Though when you think about it, since there's such opposition to it, the Lindens are sure to implement a 'one shape' policy in the future!

Briana Dawson

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Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,855

07-15-2009 15:58

I've made major changes to my shape 3 times in SL:

1st - During my first week in SL [THAT YEAR THAT I CAN'T MENTION WITHOUT A THREAD BEING MADE ABOUT IT TO SLAM ME FOR IT] when i went from 6'11" to 5''6" (but the ruler said 5'10"

2nd - February 04 when Mistress Midnight and Torrid Midnight fixed my head shape (wow was my head funky shaped) because i could not wear prim hair because of it. Seems i had done some radically weird manipulation of the sliders in a very wrong way.

3rd - February 2008 when I switched from Agent to Prim height to match my RL height of 5'6" (which is still taller than the average woman in the U.S. and around the world surprisingly so).

I am not too keen on changing my shape for ANY REASON - definitely not for prim clothes or for a skin - if the skin does not compliment my shape without my adjusting, i do not use it.).

My shape is me - i will not be changing it unless i want the change to be for the rest of my SL/OpenSim grid existence.

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Clarissa Lowell

Gone. G'bye.

Join date: 10 Apr 2006

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07-15-2009 16:02

From: Argent Stonecutter

What I would like to know is... what was the reason for the original post?

I wondered too. It sounded like the person is designing a game or something.

But I figured if they wanted to tell us they would've so I didn't bother asking. But, yeah.

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Lota Lyon

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Join date: 5 Oct 2006

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07-15-2009 16:12

From: Bree Giffen

Would you change your shape and size if all animations were made for it? If all furniture and vehicles, and houses, and clothes, shoes, hair, were made for it? If you could hold hands or kiss lips? Would it be worth it to be all the same shape? One shape for females and one for males?

Let me put it this way... hell NO! SL is the only place I can look this good! I don't get cellulite, I don’t get wrinkles, I don’t get grey and I don’t have to spend an hour putting make-up on and another hour figuring out what to wear... well scratch that last one.

Seriously though... I spent hours making my shape to resemble sort of how I looked when I was 25 (or how I wished I’d have looked) and like others here, if cloths or an animation don’t “fit” I just don’t wear or use it. I did my avi to please me, not clothing manufactures or pose ball makers.

Argus Collingwood

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Join date: 5 Dec 2005

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07-15-2009 16:14

I do change my shape when I am wearing my silver ferret avatar.

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Argent Stonecutter

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Join date: 20 Sep 2005

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07-15-2009 16:25

From: Argus Collingwood

I do change my shape when I am wearing my silver ferret avatar.

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Would you change your shape?
Maureen Boccaccio TWJKFA Join date: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 14,484	07-15-2009 05:33 nope!
Maureen Boccaccio TWJKFA Join date: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 14,484	07-15-2009 05:34 From: Madhu Maruti I think for many of us the unique shape is part of what helps us identify with our avatars. I have had to reject animations for my AO that I might otherwise have liked, because they made my hands sink into my hips or had similar issues. It's too bad that not all animations work for all people, but the overwhelming response on this thread so far seems to show we'd rather have our personal shapes and forego some of the animations. I have a hug and kiss HUD that includes 5 different animations for each avatar for each hug and kiss inside of it. It automatically detects the heights of the avatars involved in the embrace and selects from those 5 animations. The result is really very nice. It's a lot more work for the creator - both creating the additional animations and writing in the additional scripting - but it yields a more immersive result. oooh, Madhu...waves where did you get that HUD?
Rioko Bamaisin Unstable Princess Join date: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 4,668	07-15-2009 06:01 I made myself a little heavier since i was a stick figure ... but that's about it. _____________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rioko1/
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	07-15-2009 06:11 Would I choose only to be the "Ruth" Shape? Heck no. I have 80+ different forms, ranging in height from Tiny's to a huge dragon. It would make SL worthless to me if everyone had to be one shape for males, and one for females, and everyone was the same height and shape for their gender. May as well scrap the 3D completely and go back to text RP. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	07-15-2009 06:46 From: Bree Giffen Would you change your shape and size if all animations were made for it? If all furniture and vehicles, and houses, and clothes, shoes, hair, were made for it? If you could hold hands or kiss lips? Would it be worth it to be all the same shape? One shape for females and one for males? If I wanted to look like everyone else in the game... well, I know where to find there.com. _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Madhu Maruti aka Carter Denja Join date: 6 Dec 2007 Posts: 749	07-15-2009 07:13 From: Tali Rosca This is one of the most common errors in proportion; too short arms. So if an animation is made for that, somebody with realistic arm length will see this a lot. It is so common that I think short arms is actually the standard in SL, which makes it a bit of dilemma for an animator. Should s/he support the large customer base, or make something "correct", as per actual human proportions. nods It's partly because of my arm length; partly because both my shapes have wider hips and more body fat than the typical avatar. Lots and lots of female avatars with more realistic, less idealized body shapes have this problem. _____________________ Visit Madhu's Cafe - relax with your friends in our lush gardens, dance with someone special, enjoy the sounds of classic Bollywood and Monday Night World Music parties - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Milyang/39/16/701/
Madhu Maruti aka Carter Denja Join date: 6 Dec 2007 Posts: 749	07-15-2009 07:15 From: Maureen Boccaccio oooh, Madhu...waves where did you get that HUD? sigh If I could have remembered the name, I'd have said so in my post, because I knew someone would ask. I will look it up when I get in world tonight - expect an IM from Carter. grins _____________________ Visit Madhu's Cafe - relax with your friends in our lush gardens, dance with someone special, enjoy the sounds of classic Bollywood and Monday Night World Music parties - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Milyang/39/16/701/
Riseon Kosten Rizzy Join date: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 305	07-15-2009 07:37 Absolutely not. _____________________ From: Sweet Primrose I enjoy the infinitely precious gift of meeting someone's mind, as represented by their avatar.
Riseon Kosten Rizzy Join date: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 305	07-15-2009 07:39 From: Madhu Maruti sigh If I could have remembered the name, I'd have said so in my post, because I knew someone would ask. I will look it up when I get in world tonight - expect an IM from Carter. grins Meike TM Designs & Animations I LOVE that hugger hehe. It has a slow dance! Yay no having to rez anything! giggle _____________________ From: Sweet Primrose I enjoy the infinitely precious gift of meeting someone's mind, as represented by their avatar.
Czari Zenovka I've Had it With "PC"! Join date: 3 May 2007 Posts: 3,688	07-15-2009 09:26 From: Riseon Kosten Absolutely not. This! I really like the combo of shape/skin/overall look I have and would not change it. I have 2 other alts. One has the same shape as Czari but slightly different skin (and ears since she's an elf grins) and the other is a very petite Japanese AV who looks VERY different from Czari but I enjoy taking her out in Japanese sims every so often. So if I ever want a slightly different "look" I have the alts. The funny thing is, though, I rarely do so. The elven alt has become my backup inventory "mule" (a term from EQ) and the Japanese alt my banker to help keep Czari on a budget. grins _____________________ Czari's Attic ~ Relive the fun of exploring an attic for hidden treasures! http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rakhiot/82/99/111 During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.- George Orwell
Seven Okelli last days of pompeii Join date: 4 Dec 2008 Posts: 2,300	07-15-2009 10:27 Even though many things don't work in a realistic way or don't fit without tweaks, I can't think of anything that would make me change my shape. Aside from my own desire to look different. . _____________________ : : I met most of the people I know in Second Life through these forums. : I learned most of what I know of Second Life through these forums. : When I couldn't get inworld, these forums were the next best thing. : And sometimes these forums WERE the best thing. :
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	07-15-2009 10:33 What I would like to know is... what was the reason for the original post? _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Milla Janick Empress Of The Universe Join date: 2 Jan 2008 Posts: 3,075	07-15-2009 10:49 From: Argent Stonecutter What I would like to know is... what was the reason for the original post? It's probably LL's next great idea. _____________________ http://www.avatarsunited.com/avatars/milla-janick All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...
Maggie McArdle FIOS hates puppies Join date: 8 May 2006 Posts: 2,855	07-15-2009 11:59 change? no tweak? yes _____________________ There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
Smith Peel Smif v2.0 Join date: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,597	07-15-2009 12:03 Change my shape? Yer lucky if I change my pants _____________________ Wanna live in a giant wang? http://slurl.com/secondlife/Conroy/210/210/22/ Or just be bad in public? http://slurl.com/secondlife/Conroy/222/22/22/
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	07-15-2009 12:17 From: Smith Peel Change my shape? Yer lucky if I change my pants What is this "pants" thing you refer to? (O.o) _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	07-15-2009 12:18 Nope, never changing my shape permanently. I do wear different avatars sometimes, but I always go back to my shape, it's who I am. _____________________
Malia Writer Unemployed in paradise Join date: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2,026	07-15-2009 13:07 From: Bree Giffen Would you change your shape and size if all animations were made for it? If all furniture and vehicles, and houses, and clothes, shoes, hair, were made for it? If you could hold hands or kiss lips? Would it be worth it to be all the same shape? One shape for females and one for males? Considering that most of those things are NOT the right size/shape for my avatar, I guess the answer is "no". _____________________
Bradley Bracken Goodbye, Farewell, Amen Join date: 2 Apr 2007 Posts: 3,856	07-15-2009 13:08 From: Darien Caldwell Nope, never changing my shape permanently. I do wear different avatars sometimes, but I always go back to my shape, it's who I am. Darien said it all for me. No Way _____________________ My interest in SL has simply died. Thanks for all the laughs
Bree Giffen ♥♣♦♠ Furrtune Hunter ♠♦♣♥ Join date: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2,715	07-15-2009 13:18 Wow I didn't expect such a resounding 'no' response! I really don't have any underlying purpose for this question. Just curious. Though when you think about it, since there's such opposition to it, the Lindens are sure to implement a 'one shape' policy in the future!
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	07-15-2009 15:58 I've made major changes to my shape 3 times in SL: 1st - During my first week in SL [THAT YEAR THAT I CAN'T MENTION WITHOUT A THREAD BEING MADE ABOUT IT TO SLAM ME FOR IT] when i went from 6'11" to 5''6" (but the ruler said 5'10" 2nd - February 04 when Mistress Midnight and Torrid Midnight fixed my head shape (wow was my head funky shaped) because i could not wear prim hair because of it. Seems i had done some radically weird manipulation of the sliders in a very wrong way. 3rd - February 2008 when I switched from Agent to Prim height to match my RL height of 5'6" (which is still taller than the average woman in the U.S. and around the world surprisingly so). I am not too keen on changing my shape for ANY REASON - definitely not for prim clothes or for a skin - if the skin does not compliment my shape without my adjusting, i do not use it.). My shape is me - i will not be changing it unless i want the change to be for the rest of my SL/OpenSim grid existence. _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Clarissa Lowell Gone. G'bye. Join date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,020	07-15-2009 16:02 From: Argent Stonecutter What I would like to know is... what was the reason for the original post? I wondered too. It sounded like the person is designing a game or something. But I figured if they wanted to tell us they would've so I didn't bother asking. But, yeah. _____________________
Lota Lyon Registered User Join date: 5 Oct 2006 Posts: 245	07-15-2009 16:12 From: Bree Giffen Would you change your shape and size if all animations were made for it? If all furniture and vehicles, and houses, and clothes, shoes, hair, were made for it? If you could hold hands or kiss lips? Would it be worth it to be all the same shape? One shape for females and one for males? Let me put it this way... hell NO! SL is the only place I can look this good! I don't get cellulite, I don’t get wrinkles, I don’t get grey and I don’t have to spend an hour putting make-up on and another hour figuring out what to wear... well scratch that last one. Seriously though... I spent hours making my shape to resemble sort of how I looked when I was 25 (or how I wished I’d have looked) and like others here, if cloths or an animation don’t “fit” I just don’t wear or use it. I did my avi to please me, not clothing manufactures or pose ball makers.
Argus Collingwood Totally Tintable Join date: 5 Dec 2005 Posts: 600	07-15-2009 16:14 I do change my shape when I am wearing my silver ferret avatar. _____________________ ~~ Please behave before I have to slap you naked and hide your clothes! ~~ Argus-eyed = carefully observant or attentive; on the lookout for possible danger
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	07-15-2009 16:25 From: Argus Collingwood I do change my shape when I am wearing my silver ferret avatar. _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore

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