Sometimes I wonder...
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Max Herzog
Cloudy
Join date: 9 Jul 2006
Posts: 1,073
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06-10-2008 06:16
From: Renara Vandyke It's their land, they can ban whoever they like. Of course, however, the wording of the banning message in this case is petulant and childish enough to prevent a typical would-be customer from bothering to contact the merchant to clarify the situation. If someone assumed that just because I visit for however long, just to rip off their textures or whatever, then they don't deserve my business.
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Porky Gorky
Temperamentalalistical
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 1,414
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06-10-2008 06:24
From: Viktoria Dovgal Bots sniffing for common types of camping devices to park on. That makes sense. Almost everyday I see people leaving in less than a second after arriving. I use the word camping in my keywords but dont offer camping. Is 1 second long enough for a bot to scan the contents of a plot to determine if there are camping seats there? I would guess yes. Yesterday I had 217 avatars visit my plot and 9 of them left within 0.9 seconds.
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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06-10-2008 06:29
Why didn't your friend write back? This shop could've had the awesomest stuff in SL; but after an IM like that, I wouldn't be able to resist retorting. "Congratulations, your establishment has finally proven beyond all doubt that it doesn't take more than two minutes to realize when a place's product line sucks donkey @$$. Consider yourself, your family, your friends, your pets, everything you've ever built, and everybody who shares your join date summarily muted. I shall spread word of your shop's epic suckage far and wide. Love and kisses." I'd probably follow this up by sending a texture of that "YOU'RE WINNER!" trophy screen from Big Rigs.
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
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06-10-2008 06:34
From: Porky Gorky Is 1 second long enough for a bot to scan the contents of a plot to determine if there are camping seats there? Sure, if the bot isn't smart enough to take into account that those messages aren't always reliable on the first try =) Connections with sims do last for a short while after you teleport away, so waiting for the responses may not even really be necessary. There are all sorts of bots on the grid these days looking for different things, but that one did stick out as a hot button. You might try leaving it out for a few days to see if it changes the activity. From: someone Yesterday I had 217 avatars visit my plot and 9 of them left within 0.9 seconds. I'd expect that kind of thing as normal for a club-like place (because people may be looking for dots on the minimap before hanging around), but it is a little strange for a shop.
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Kitty Barnett
Registered User
Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 5,586
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06-10-2008 06:35
From: Porky Gorky Im am reffering to people who are there not long enough for anything substantial to rez. I know how long it takes my textures and objects to rez as ive tested it on various plaforms and connection in additon to paying other residents to report on my stores performace including load times. Most places will rez adequately for me in 30-60 seconds, but if *nothing* has rezzed by them I'm not going to stick around, I'll just move on and maybe come back later. If there's too many dots on the minimap, if the sim is lagging or has stuck pending downloads/uploads, if the store is using vendors, if it's a mall, etc would all just have me tp away as soon as I arrive. A friend could have sent a tp, I could have used a random landmark as an in-between stop cause tp's were acting up, tp could have gone wrong and I need a relog, etc. There's far too many reasons, some of which aren't even about the store to obsess about why some who aren't bots don't stick around to even window shop  .
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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06-10-2008 06:37
I kinda reminds me of when I was reviewing my "freebie malls" folder that I hand out. I went down the list, TPed to each one, and made sure that freebies were still offered.... Then..... *poof* (Start the stopwatch) Okay, walls.... (^_^) Okay, spinning things.... (^_^) Okay, some avatars... kinda popular... Nice! (^_^) Uh, spinning things are cages... (o.o) Oh, dance poles... (o.o) Okay, textures loading... Oop, she's nakie... Oop.... Uh... (o.o) GAH!!!! STRIP CLUB!!! I STILL LOOK LIKE A 10YO!!! (>_<  [ctrl]+[alt]+H (45 seconds later)
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Porky Gorky
Temperamentalalistical
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 1,414
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06-10-2008 06:41
From: Kitty Barnett Most places will rez adequately for me in 30-60 seconds, but if *nothing* has rezzed by them I'm not going to stick around, I'll just move on and maybe come back later. There's far too many reasons, some of which aren't even about the store to obsess about why some who aren't bots don't stick around to even window shop  . But I am a control freak!!! I need clear and consice answers for everything! As far as I am concnerned if a person visits my plot and leaves without making a purchase I have FAILED! So I try to do better by monitoring everything and trying to find logic in a world full of crazy people....and now the bots are messing with my mind...... /me stagers off to find his pills.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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06-10-2008 06:48
From: Porky Gorky I use the word camping in my keywords but dont offer camping. Rather like illicit sex, there's something about this that's quite shameful and at the same time intensely satisfying. 
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Porky Gorky
Temperamentalalistical
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 1,414
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06-10-2008 06:55
From: Qie Niangao Rather like illicit sex, there's something about this that's quite shameful and at the same time intensely satisfying.  LOL. I am against camping, I used to have 3 'camping' chairs set up, they looked lke camping chairs, they smelled like camping chairs but when a camper sits on one they are propelled into orbit and away from my plot. It was more of a statement against the camping groups but after a while I think they black listed me so the only people who would sit on them were poor/nooby potential customers and ejecting your customers into sky at high velocity isnt the wisest business move so I removed them 
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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06-10-2008 07:02
From: Porky Gorky LOL. I am against camping, I used to have 3 'camping' chairs set up, they looked lke camping chairs, they smelled like camping chairs but when a camper sits on one they are propelled into orbit and away from my plot. It was more of a statement against the camping groups but after a while I think they black listed me so the only people who would sit on them were poor/nooby potential customers and ejecting your customers into sky at high velocity isnt the wisest business move so I removed them  You mean there's like coordinated camping groups that inform each other about things like that? That's kinda scary. Organized campers. /me shivers.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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06-10-2008 07:11
From: Dakota Tebaldi You mean there's like coordinated camping groups that inform each other about things like that? That's kinda scary. Organized campers. /me shivers. Imagine what the group announcements are like... "4 Chairs available in HereThereAndEverywhere[100,100,100]" And then they TP flock like pigeons to a PB&J crumb in the playground. (=_=)y
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Porky Gorky
Temperamentalalistical
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 1,414
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06-10-2008 07:28
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Imagine what the group announcements are like... "4 Chairs available in HereThereAndEverywhere[100,100,100]" And then they TP flock like pigeons to a PB&J crumb in the playground. (=_=)y Well my analogy involves flies and s**t, but yep, thats what they are like. Due to having far too much time on my hands I once created an alt and joined a camping group to see what goes on there. I was getting endless group notifications of empty camping chairs and new campsites that members had discivered, and group chat was constantly going with people bickering over the best paid chairs. It was all so petty and rediculous considering even a full days camping would only ever bring in a couple of USD per avatar.
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Jojogirl Bailey
jojo's Folly owner
Join date: 20 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,094
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06-10-2008 07:35
There are so many people I know who crash upon TP'ing...i would never get upset about someone tp'ing in and leaving. Too bad the person bans them because if they crash just as they tp, they normally come back in a min or two....what a great way to totally destroy a business and a reputation all by himself. That kind of foolishness has no business in business... 
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
Posts: 3,688
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06-10-2008 08:17
From: Rioko Bamaisin haha.  Send me the LM,I want to visit for one minute and 59 seconds. Me too, please!!! 
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Colette Forster
The Real Deal
Join date: 4 Apr 2008
Posts: 221
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06-10-2008 08:25
From: Rioko Bamaisin haha.  Send me the LM,I want to visit for one minute and 59 seconds. LMAO! me too, me too, me too!
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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06-10-2008 08:45
did this person Manually do the banning?
Or was it some sort of automated copybot "protection"?
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Elgyfu Wishbringer
The Pootler
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 659
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06-10-2008 09:27
Perhaps all the merchants here should ban this person in advance...
coz they haven't even been to our stores yet today, let alone bought anything.
Blimey, this person has to be the ultimate uber-wombat.
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 11,319
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06-10-2008 09:33
From: Max Herzog If I tp to a store and instantly see that I don't care for the products on sale, I tp out. I tend to cam around to see what's on offer rather than walk and browse, but surely it's my prerogative to spend less time than the merchant chooses to expect me to spend in their store. If you have good products that I may want to browse some more and subsequently buy, I stay longer. If not, I get the hell out fairly quickly. Stuff tends to rez swiftly for me anyway, so I don't need long to form an opinion. For others, rezzing takes longer. Either way, the merchant in this case has reacted incorrectly and the banning makes him/her look a bit of a berk, frankly. I agree completely. There are many places that I TP to and have enough rezzed within a minute for me to determine that I do not need to stay. It is my decision how long I want to stay somewhere and if a merchant wants to ban me because they think I stayed too short of a time, then I don't want anything to do with them anyway.
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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06-10-2008 09:43
From: Imnotgoing Sideways I kinda reminds me of when I was reviewing my "freebie malls" folder that I hand out. I went down the list, TPed to each one, and made sure that freebies were still offered.... Then..... *poof* (Start the stopwatch) Okay, walls.... (^_^) Okay, spinning things.... (^_^) Okay, some avatars... kinda popular... Nice! (^_^) Uh, spinning things are cages... (o.o) Oh, dance poles... (o.o) Okay, textures loading... Oop, she's nakie... Oop.... Uh... (o.o) GAH!!!! STRIP CLUB!!! I STILL LOOK LIKE A 10YO!!! (>_<  [ctrl]+[alt]+H (45 seconds later) I have so so so done dis -- though it was jes "old links" an not freebie malls. 
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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06-10-2008 11:40
From: Marianne McCann I have so so so done dis -- though it was jes "old links" an not freebie malls.  I haven't been here but a few months, and I've already TP'd to one place that wasn't what it used to be when I first got the LM. It was a strip club, but it was only in the middle of being built so there were no patrons or employees there, ha... Also, I've bought stuff from places like SLX, and when they give notecards and LMs, sometimes those links are way out of date if the item is old. I tried to visit like a vehicle store, and found myself in the middle of a womens' skin shop. That was interesting.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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06-10-2008 12:14
From: Dakota Tebaldi ...I tried to visit like a vehicle store, and found myself in the middle of a womens' skin shop. That was interesting. /me imagines you wandering around the shop... Bug eyed... Jaw dropped... Not knowing where to look next... (^_^)y
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Bree Giffen
♥♣♦♠ Furrtune Hunter ♠♦♣♥
Join date: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 2,715
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06-10-2008 13:20
Banning people for not purchasing anything. Guess he has a huge ban list then.
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Saucey Barbecue
I Nommed yer Girlfriend
Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 254
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06-10-2008 13:49
From: Marianne McCann Originally Posted by Imnotgoing Sideways GAH!!!! STRIP CLUB!!! I STILL LOOK LIKE A 10YO!!! (>_<  [ctrl]+[alt]+H (45 seconds later) I have so so so done dis -- though it was jes "old links" an not freebie malls.  I once decided that I should go through my old LMs, starting from the oldest and workin' my way to the latest, a project that took a couple of weeks as I was constantly innerupted (THANX JEBUS!) and one tiime landed in a place that I didn't 'member what it had been, but had become a fairly nice lookin' yard, with trees, fountains, chirpy birds n' SUDDENLY BAM! YOU ARE BANNORATED! GRRRR! WHO dares ban the tiger widout a single warning? So I track back n' land nearby n' take a look at the land description... It says something like "A nice place for anyone to chill out n' relax n' leave the cares n' worries of RL far behind them" /me boggles Come relax in my place n' get booted?
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Saucey Barbecue
I Nommed yer Girlfriend
Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 254
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06-10-2008 13:55
Oh n' also... Can I get the LM from the OP or others please? I jus' gotsta go see what they have that's so wunnerfull they feel it must be protected from people who dun' stay long 'nuff ta steal it
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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06-10-2008 13:57
From: Imnotgoing Sideways /me imagines you wandering around the shop... Bug eyed... Jaw dropped... Not knowing where to look next... (^_^)y No, no, no....don't you see? That was the rare part. I didn't -have- to decide where to look next. They were EVERYWHERE! The place was wallpapered with naked women! Of all kinds! Like three floors of them!!! ZOMG!!!!
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