All Out by 2009?

Its an interesting point... although it can take a company a very long time to fully roll out PCs, depending on their size. I have a brand new IBM laptop with a fairly nice graphics card and its barely acceptable. When I plug into my docking station that has an even better card SL isn't supported.

I would hope that in X years when PCs are faster and graphics cards of today are more common that SL would be utilizing an even better PC and card.

No, I'm trying to tell you that it's not the fault of special interest groups or of corporations that some politicians appear to choose to vote against the best interests of their voting constituents or the majority of the politicians have failed to address, let alone solve our urgent national issues over the past 20 yeqars.

That blame lies squarely on 'we the people' and especially on those who think that politics is a team sport and that their team is somehow better than the other team despite the fact neither team have proven themselves to be worth their weight in horse manure.

well, EXACTLY, special interests have no -current- interests in our ballgame. but as soon as they glean some sort of 'horse-sh*t' excuse to tax us (additionally on top of what we make here), then it's a -different- ballgame.

'we the people' = 'the u.s. supreme court'?? i don't think so. 'we the people' = 'populist voting pattern'?? i don't think so. 'we the people' = 'superdelegates'?? (ohh, waitaminute, we have 'superdelegates' that can supercede my own vote?? ... i don't think so...)

p.s. btw, 'superdelegates' are just an excuse to supercede a legitimate popular vote; they've already done this once before... to cheat us again is simply to prove a false 'invalendty' to the voting process. IN THE UNITED STATES, THE SUPREME COURT INVALIDATES ALL PRESIDENTIAL VOTES... 'ONE VOTE != ONE VOICE IN AMERICA' - DO NOT BELIEVE THIS ANYPLACE ELSE THE UNITED STATES HAS 'INSTALLED' DEMOCRACY!!

do not ever ever -EVER- feel or assumed you are protected by 'america'... even americans do not feel protected by america.

happy days, otherwise

While it is true the voters (and those who dont vote) share complicity in the system we have,

it is too easy to say that Politicians failing to maintain their ethics is the fault of the voters.

How the system evolved into what it is is a complex dynamic. It is also an entrenched bureaucracy that limits the choices available to voters.

However it is a fact that American corporate interests have intentionally influenced American foreign and domestic policy for well over 100 years.

please stop... you might get more of us killed

p.s. to explain... look at the voting patterns of the past 12+ years... more than that really... and tell me it's not the fault of the public. (well, it -is-... if more 'indepent/dem' u.s. voters worked their scene, then surely the rest of the world would not have to deal with our b.s.) but i dunno if that's -really- the result you wanted to see. it sure isn't what i wanted. it sure isn't what innocent iraqis have wanted. it sure isn't what any mis-identified 'waterboarded' suspect ever wanted...

LOL, I don't think they care what people say, really.

They have managed to indoctrinate / induce apathy in enough people and the political process that a few people whining is beneath their notice.

if that's what you think, you're fooling yourself (and anyone you are talking to about such matters). the point is -caring what you think, and how you vote, and how others vote- is how -america- ended up here in the first place... and from there, affecting the rest of the world.

EVERYONE VOTE, AND NO ONE HAS A COMPLAINT. thinking we do not affect others was the first mistake.

not caring about, or for, or prognosticating, the rest of the world was what got us here in the first place. weird weather, everyone?? (ohhhh, it's not just us...)

P.P.S. anyone who laughs at such statement is intrinsically putting themselves in place of ibm/ms mid/late-ninties...

I thought you were refering to the "Black Helicopter" crowd who would kill people for speaking up.

I was referring to the fact that the establishment (however its defined) has no real need to worry about people speaking their minds.

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I didn't realize you were discussing the war in Iraq. And people being killed in that war. You added that after.

Still the symbol led me to believe you were half joking (at least black humor) and thus me thinking black helicopter crowd immediately.

With so many stupid people in America, I'm kind of glad that we have the electoral college. Why should CA, NY, FL and TX be able to solely determine who get's elected president, when some of those states can't even graduate more than 60% of their high school students?

And exactly where is it written in the consitution that you have the right to choose your parties presidential candidate? When you find that one, then let me know.

Spoken like a true disciple of Hamilton.

Who has a Burr up his butt?

Evidently Hamilton did.

what a prob have -you- with 'one voice, one vote'??

especially since it seems to have particularly f*cked up thing the past eight years. or at least, the -misinterpretation- of such votes.

i don't, and i'm a born-and-b'raised 'merican. tell me.



but be forewarned, you can't convince me that the 'supreme court vote for who's really the u.s. president' is valid.

As an auto enthusiast, please tell me how raising CAFE standards (domestic policy) is in the interest of the American based auto makers (corporate America), who employ hundreds of thousands of Americans?

Because as I see it, politicians are at their core, are cowards.

Taxing the engine size, the fuel consumption or the fuel itself would be a much more efficient and immediate manner in which to forever change the consumers buying habits.

But people vote and big corporate American car companies don't. So the easy choice for the cowards who make 'domestic policy' decisions based mostly on if it will get them reelected or not, was to use Corporate America as the scape goat.

And Americans who think that special interest corporate America is the source of all evil, enabled these politicians to appear to have made a decision, while they did nothing that comes close to addressing the very important issue of our nations energy useage.

There is enough blame to go around. The politicians, the people who elect them, the corporations, the lobbyists they send to Washington to influence the politicians, the Romulans, the Nazis, Professor Moriarity, Rush Limbaugh,the New York Yankees........

RE: original post - which deserves a reply. Fallacies as follows:



Challenge One – Graphics Card Issues

Consultants, don't be stupid. A business that is most widely advertised in Pig and Cattle Field Daily Review doesn't belong here. To be here would be 'doing it wrong.'

This has zero to do with the grid platform itself, and everything to do with idiots in business marketing departments. Your analysis won't save these people.

Should a business should be here if its customers or employees don't have access to decent graphics cards?

Well, duh. Likewise, cruise ships need vast amounts of water for successful operation of their particular business model. Vast amounts, ungodly billions and billions of gallons for sailing around.

Water. It's a limitation unique to cruise ships, but doesn't invalidate cruise ships. Alright. We got that concept, let's move on.



Challenge Two – Downtime

Consultants, downtime sucks. But don't you think flying half a dozen people across the continental United States sucks more?

You are comparing grid downtime to flying, automobile commuting, and all the other options that businesses now have to suffer through to get face-to-face 3d time. Ah, how many of *those* solutions are 24/7? Unless you can wiggle your nose and instantly teleport your real life self to Seattle or London, they aren't 24/7 are they?

Businesses, if your training sessions involve getting manure on trainee shoes, the grid won't help you.

If however you are in a high tech industry, gee, you might consider it.

Ponder that while in row 35, seat C between the wild kid and the sweating man.



Challenge Three – Other Platforms Emerge

Consultants, don't mention Sony Home as a grid alternative if you ever wish to be taken seriously again.

You mention downtime, then down the page you mention a platform that is downtime by definition, by virtue of not even being done. If you think Sony Home will be any kind of uncanned experience suitable for businesses, I've got some PlayStation games you need to try.

As for green startups coming out of nowhere to beat Linden Research on all fronts... screw the consulting advice, put your money where your mouth is and give us stock tips instead. Oh, don't really have one? Just a vague 'feeling' it's out there? That's what I thought.

As business consultants, you should already *know* that fantasy competitors don't come out of the woodwork - they try, they fail, they have ridiculously stupid problems of their own, incompetence runs rampant.

It's bad enough when we get these incredible feel-good fantasy-flights from corporate sneak-peeks - but one doesn't have to package and distribute it for them. In 2009 I personally predict: incompetence. Across the board. Again.

Worst of all, even if a division of a monstrous company decides to compete, they will still have to go from internal startup-style management to sustaining management within three years - and that transition more than anything is pure hell on the userbase. Or maybe in 2009 there will be no such thing as growing pains?



So let's look at the recommendation to use caution with Second Life.


A platform evaluation that is 100% free, can be done in a few hours almost 24/7, and you are telling people to wait until 2009 for the Mystery Perfect Competitor?

Consultants, it's not like anyone is forced to stay here forever by a ring of sharks with laser-powered eyes even if the Mystery Perfect Competitor (cue angels singing) shows up.

This recommendation is like telling people to use caution when considering car use in 1978, because cars will be so much better by 1997.

Just because some early adopter businesses didn't get it, and others may have walked in expecting some 90's New Economy viral marketing meme miracle, doesn't mean you are going to be stupid too.



Desmond will continue to provide additional analysis on consultants, until they get it right.

This is a very good suggestion. But perhap a bit difficult to put into practice right now:

Phillip god-summons Zero to his office. After Zero's Mac reboots the second time, Phillip says "I read this on the plane: this Bree Giffen resident has a good idea. When can we open the Second SecondLife Grid? For starters, we can just rollback the corporate sims to the last stable release, and have the corporate portal download link to the old client--you know, the stable one."

Zero scratches his chin a moment, till a glowing lightbulb rezzes over his head. "I'll have the team get right on that, Phil. While we're finding those stable releases from the svn archives, perhaps Market Research could hire one of those big consulting firms to advise us on the Next Technology to incorporate into the Main Grid."

"Why, that's a *smashing* idea, Zero!" Phillip smiles brightly. "It's always good to get an outsider's perspective, and worth every penny!" Phillip's eyes glaze with visions of Executive Reports as Zero passes unnoticed out the door, confident the boss's attention will never again drift to the fabled stable releases of yore.

Companies that can't afford video cards for their computers are going to buy their employees PS3s.

Hee hee hee.

LOL

You must mean *YOU* are the auto enthusiast.

*I* am a former employee of the auto industry. That is something entirely different.

I have unfortunately signed legally binding documents which touch on some of this question so I am not going to answer it.

However the auto industry is hardly the entirety of corporate America. And I never said that Corporate America owns the entirety of the political system. I said they have undue influence on it.

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I was not aware the fact that US policies have been swayed by Corporate Interests was in debate.

An interesting quote from the 1930's is this one by a retired Marine Corps General. It details a series of small American Invasions which don't get mentioned in High School American History Text books.



That is from the book "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James W. Loewen Which touches on this subject in more detail. I would suggest looking into it. Its interesting reading.

It alo discusses the patriotic slant most grade and high school curricula present, which you might find interesting.

That quote is from a book called "War is a Racket"

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm


In the early 1930's General Butler was approached by a group of leading corporate officers who tried to get him to lead an army of disaffected WW1 vets to over throw the government and install a fascist dictatorship, Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather was one of the group behind this plot.

Just one of several sources about this attempted coup.

http://www.claytoncramer.com/amcoup.html

I guess with a name like Smedley, he had to be an over achiever.

George W. is the man, he has the vote.

Hey man put private messaging on in these forums, if i can't speak to you in world sending a message in here every now and again would be cool. I have been away for the last two weeks in NYC.

Well, this thread veered a bit off course until Desmond tried to refocus it, with great perception but little success, because it immediately veered again.

I do have to say that I agree with all of Desmond's points, so I won't repeat them.

What piece of trash publication did this appear in? It appears that the writer did not bother to do any actual research or thinking, but merely chose to take a negative view of LL and SL, because it's so 2006 to be positive about it. And it seems like a bunch of you poor saps work for companies that actually pay attention to this pub? That's gotta be harsh.

And, oh, by the way, I am a consultant, too. No offense taken, Desmond.

Yes, I meant me. Sorry.

And sorry for derailing this thread. Work was stressful today and I released some of it here.