Child Av situational concerns

That doesn't really make sense to me. The first thing I'd do before renting there, would be to ask what their policy on furniture is, specifically the furniture that comes with the rental. Asking if you could put down other furniture, in theme, but your own. And if not, hey, that bed can get me in trouble, can I remove it?

Not sure why you would want to rent in a place that had management that would leap down your throat and rip out your stomach if you asked such a basic question.

The way you are describing the managment of this place, I would have to suggest you do not live there.

You do NOT want to have to deal with a landlord that your to afrade to even ask if you can remove something.

On a side note, I personaly do not understand why anyone would want to own land that could not be fully customized. Have land you have full control over or demand to pay a much lower price then what you would have to pay with full control over it.

Basicly, if this place doesn't cost at least less then half of what the same size of mainland would cost, I don't understand why you would want to live there.

Victoria, Qie, Jerboa: Perhaps I am being too paranoid. As I mentioned earlier, I'm happy that there's no child av-specific policies at this place and I don't want there to be any. But I maybe just asking if they can switch out the bed isn't such a big deal after all.

FD: That's another concern. Every item - wall, floor, included furniture - is group owned. Aside from the doors and windows, which are access-specific, I would assume that anybody wearing the group tag (which you need to get when you rent) would be able to activate the features of the bed. Perhaps I am wrong about that...I shall investigate more thoroughly.

Tali, I'm beginning to lean more toward simply renting the space and dealing with any problems when and if they arise. I'm just sort of feeling out what others think about this issue.

Phil: You could always try getting rid of your traffic bots.

Ceera: This sort of ties in with Lias's idea. HOWEVER: does it work that way? When a prim is completely transparent, will it block items inside it/behind it from being selected? I know there have been times when I've been building, and I seemed to be unable to select a transparent prim unless I had "Highlight Transparent" on; I think my attempts at selecting the place where I knew the transparent prim to be simply resulted in the object behind it, or the land, being selected instead. If I use the prim idea, I might have to end up making it something seeable. Perhaps a slightly larger bed, for instance.

If you have edit rights, move the questionable bed below the ground and create a new bed purely for sleeping/show in the same style. Yes, it would cost you the prims for the questionable bed, which would still be counted against the parcel's prim limit, but it would remove that bed from view and yet not impinge on the landowner's time by way of your asking them to remove it.

Lexxi and Dante - I have not interacted with management at all, yet; my not wanting to impose is just a kind of personal thing, not specifically tied to my av or this situation. I'm always like that; for instance, despite being continually told I'm welcome, I've offered to leave the Cartel hangout on more than one occasion in order to accommodate other members' comfort or sensibilities.

I understand that, without any details, it would not make sense to want to rent this place rather than buying my own land when you have no other information to go by. Let's just say that I consider it worth the cost for other reasons.

Let's not get naggy.



Jes ask my former neighbors.



Totally, totally this.

Baaaaa!

Pep (Humbug too, as it is getting near Christmas)

seems to me, if that is a red flag.. maybe you should look for an unfurnished...

also, any landlord would be more than willing to remove it.

I'm not even sure what the problem is.... just ask him/her to remove it... problem solved..

Actually, I don't see the harm in asking the landlord about the possibility of removing the bed. The worst that can happen is that they say no or "Get offa my lawn!1!"

Also, it might be a good idea to mention the child av thing to them now, because it'd suck for them to kick you out later and be out money for it.

If it's scripted for a left-click touch event, yes. (Just to confuse the matter: for right-click behavior (like Edit), it actually depends *how* the object is transparent: whether it's a result of llSetAlpha, or whether it's been painted with a transparent texture. Off the top of my head, however, I can't remember which does what. I'm also not completely sure how that interacts with setting the default left click to non-touch events such as Pay or Sit.)

Yup, yup. cuz you never know exactly what their take is, an some jes automatically assume bad stuff.

(So darn many hoops some days!)

I honestly think that asking to have the bed removed isn't a big deal. If I was renting a property and it had a piece of furniture that I found offensive and/or questionable and/or just dang ugly, I would certainly ask the landlord to remove it. Just tell them you don't like the bed. Don't tell them it's because you're a kid avie, or that you're worried about TOS. Just say that you don't like it and want to put your own bed down. Period. If the landlord has a problem with that, you'd be better off not renting from such an uptight person anyway.

That's a sheep. You want a horse, Pep.

Edit: Oh, wait.. you're trying to NOT be a nag. Right.

Oooh.. Shaky ground. The easiest solution would be to have your landlord remove the thing, replace it, or move on. In many ways, the TOS/Blog leaves things wide open to the interpretation of the abuse reporter. (>_<

The wording of the blog makes it sound to me as though you need to be standing next to the bed, TPing people in, and saying "Hey, big brother, I'm having funny feelings. Can show you something?"... Or be caught on the thing with your primnis in the proverbial pie... Then there will be tons of proof with intent and such that can be acted on. (=_=)

But... On the other hand... I've been hit with an "ageplay" AR myself. There are times when all someone seems to have to do is say "Kids are gross" in an AR and *poof*... your avatar is momentarily gone for the egregious violation of being shorter than 8' tall. (>_<

Really... A kid renting a room that just happens to have a sex bed is a risk like any other. Not unlike opening your RL door to anyone that happens to ring your bell. And it's up to you to decide what level of risk you're willing to accept. Measure the likelihood that you'll offend someone. Measure the amount your willing to lose in this risk. And make your decision based on those weights. (^_^)y

Heh.. You and beds, Dookie... Is this the second thread you started involving beds so far? Third? You must be one sleepy little dude. =^-^=

I am Welsh and am therefore a connoisseur of sheep - and that was definitely a goat's bleat.


I leave that to the wife . . .

Pep (Are there any single or bunk beds in sl?)

In a lot of the kid stores, obviously.

I saw a nice bed the other day that just had sleep... and Jumping ! animations...

My friend and I had more fun jumping on that bed than we ever had useing the badly miss aligned sex pose balls on our regular bed....

My bed at home has a whopping three animations: sleep, jump, and a tuck in for th' folks.

Hey Mari
How did that ever get resolved with your animal-lovin neighbours? If you reported back, I missed the post.

B.

They had moved some of their stuff to make it less obvious/visible a couple days after I spotted a Linden hovering over their place. A month or so later, they sold the land to another person who has not done much development to it.

Even easier than asking the landlord to remove the bed or using an invisiprim to substitute your own poses, why not simply have them set the scripts to not running? Voilà, no more chance of adult activities being exposed to 18+ aged users!

Worst case scenario would still indicate that someone who an axe to grind could still show that said sex bed *exists* in the same location as a child avatar. Scripts on or off, invisible prims, whatever can easily be ignored by someone who wants to AR him. These also do not show in that handy "show screenshot" window – all you'll see is the bed.

Now let's bear in mind that the odds of anything happening are *extremely* slight. First, someone has to see said bed and note its abilities. Then they have to want to AR it. Then that AR needs to make it to a pair fo GTeam eyes. Then they need to decided how to action it. Even if all that happens, you'll likely get a short suspension. Seems like very long odds to me.

By "the letter of the law," it could indeed be an issue, and I would suggest seeing if the owner would be willing to accommodate you. Heck, you *are* paying them after all, so asking for a bed to be removed is *not* a big huge deal. Very low on the "things renters want" list.

Like some other folks have said, if it IS a big deal to remove one piece of furniture then you don't want to deal with this landlord.

Eeeeeewwwwwwweeeee!

Stop trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Dakota, it is shear nonsense that you even have this concern, but sadly you do thanks to the ever increasing knucklehead quotient of SL. If the place is really what you want, you shouldn't be denied it because of busybody tongue cluckers who have nothing better to do with their time. Personally, I would just take the place nd everyone else be damned. You aren't doing anything wrong. But I like to work without a net. I'd do as others have suggested, and talk to the owner of the space. I don't see why they wouldn't acommodate you.

no, not with that bed.