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Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 11:17
Has anyone else heard rumours that tiers are to be increased next year...
(maybe a few members of the Lindens head team need to be visited by ghosts of christmases past, present and future-in-openlife ) ;) )


by the way happy christmas...
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12-15-2008 11:33
Hi Maelstrom, I believe there was a thread in the last few days questioning this same thing, didn't follow it, but you will prob find it at the bottom of the page or perhaps page 2...I believe it was titled something about a nasty rumor :)

Merry Christmas to you also.

Ashe
Yosef Okelly
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12-15-2008 11:44
No change expected on mainland tier.
Openspace or void sims will get a big revamp including different levels of usage. The short version is 67% increase in price for Openspace sims.
Private island estates have not been mentioned at all. One can assume no increase in price at this point.
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 11:44
The problem with rumours is that they frequesntly have some grain of truth... myself the way things are Id believe an increase was forthcoming before a decrease. Fortunately I've sold my land albeit it at a loss and am simply waiting for openlife to make more regions available..if oppenlife build on what they've done so far I see the place as being far more fun to build in...cheaper, megaprims up to 100 metres freely avaialable, can be hollowed more too (and more of them to a region). All the things lindens should be doing...all things I've suggested time and again.

With this and the fact that openlife is a lot cheaper while lindens have become too expensive...

I think lindens need to buck up their ideas and take another look at customer care...
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12-15-2008 11:54
Jack has been asked this question repeatedly during his office hours. His answer has been consistent so far:

OpenSpaces are the only tier proces changing. There are no plans to change either mainland tier or the tier on Private Estates outside of OpenSpaces. The OpenSpace changes have been well-documented for a while now.
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 11:58
From: Talarus Luan
Jack has been asked this question repeatedly during his office hours. His answer has been consistent so far:

OpenSpaces are the only tier proces changing. There are no plans to change either mainland tier or the tier on Private Estates outside of OpenSpaces. The OpenSpace changes have been well-documented for a while now.



hadn't got his fingers crossed behind his back when he answered had he ? :D

and i suppose that means no much needed price decrease either....
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Ciaran Laval
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12-15-2008 12:01
Grandfathered status is most at risk but I really can't see Linden Lab being iditotic enough to rock the boat even more after the openspace fiasco.

A lot of the rumours stem from large land holders selling their class 4 sims.
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 12:11
From: Ciaran Laval
Grandfathered status is most at risk but I really can't see Linden Lab being iditotic enough to rock the boat even more after the openspace fiasco.

A lot of the rumours stem from large land holders selling their class 4 sims.



but didnt the openspace fiasco follow the v.a.t fiasco ??
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Ciaran Laval
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12-15-2008 12:12
From: Maelstrom Janus
but didnt the openspace fiasco follow the v.a.t fiasco ??


Over 12 months later yes, so maybe November 2009 on tier?
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12-15-2008 12:18
From: Maelstrom Janus
The problem with rumours is that they frequesntly have some grain of truth... myself the way things are Id believe an increase was forthcoming before a decrease. Fortunately I've sold my land albeit it at a loss and am simply waiting for openlife to make more regions available..if oppenlife build on what they've done so far I see the place as being far more fun to build in...cheaper, megaprims up to 100 metres freely avaialable, can be hollowed more too (and more of them to a region). All the things lindens should be doing...all things I've suggested time and again.

With this and the fact that openlife is a lot cheaper while lindens have become too expensive...

I think lindens need to buck up their ideas and take another look at customer care...

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Yosef Okelly
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12-15-2008 12:19
From: Maelstrom Janus
The problem with rumours is that they frequesntly have some grain of truth... myself the way things are Id believe an increase was forthcoming before a decrease. Fortunately I've sold my land albeit it at a loss and am simply waiting for openlife to make more regions available..if oppenlife build on what they've done so far I see the place as being far more fun to build in...cheaper, megaprims up to 100 metres freely avaialable, can be hollowed more too (and more of them to a region). All the things lindens should be doing...all things I've suggested time and again.

With this and the fact that openlife is a lot cheaper while lindens have become too expensive...

I think lindens need to buck up their ideas and take another look at customer care...

Can I have your stuff?
Yosef Okelly
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12-15-2008 12:27
Why ask a question if you are not going to listen to the answers? It seems to me that you sold off land for no reason and now want to perpetuate the rumor that all tier will increase so that maybe you feel a little more justified in making a rash decision.

Go join openlife if you wish. Stay here and try to get someone else's land at a bargin price if you want. No matter what you do, nothing will change the fact that next years price breakdown has been set and it does not include increases for any aspect but openspace sims.
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 12:44
From: Yosef Okelly
Why ask a question if you are not going to listen to the answers? It seems to me that you sold off land for no reason and now want to perpetuate the rumor that all tier will increase so that maybe you feel a little more justified in making a rash decision.

Go join openlife if you wish. Stay here and try to get someone else's land at a bargin price if you want. No matter what you do, nothing will change the fact that next years price breakdown has been set and it does not include increases for any aspect but openspace sims.



I sold my land because ithe cost was crippling me.... hardly a rash decision... or are you being 'stroppy' because I cracked a funny about your sickly pronouncements in another thread...

lol
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Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 12:45
From: Ciaran Laval
Over 12 months later yes, so maybe November 2009 on tier?



you must be working on the six hour sl based calendar...
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12-15-2008 12:47
The other thread is http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=297162 .

Expect LL to deny, evade or ignore ANY questions about future tier changes until they officially announce the change. Doing otherwise is just silly.
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Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 12:51
From: Meade Paravane
The other thread is /327/8e/297162/1.html .

Expect LL to deny, evade or ignore ANY questions about future tier changes until they officially announce the change. Doing otherwise is just silly.



yes but its fun to speculate...especially as my 'rash' decision to sell means I dont pay tier charges any more ;)
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12-15-2008 12:52
From: Maelstrom Janus
I sold my land because ithe cost was crippling me.... hardly a rash decision... or are you being 'stroppy' because I cracked a funny about your sickly pronouncements in another thread...

lol

You did? I don't know what the sickly pronouncements are but up until this thread I don't recall seeing your name.

What thread is it in? I hate to miss a good joke.

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Found it.
From: Maelstrom Janus
From: Yosef Okelly
As long as you are talking with me, nothing could ever be any better. It doesn't matter what you say, as long as you are saying it to me. Each word is a treasure and every breath is ecstacy. When I think of all those years that passed before I had heard your name, I realize that there is most certianly something much darker than black. It is an empty void where no hope has ever been. It is life wthout you.

does anyone make a prim sick bag in sl please ??

:p

Nah, I'm not going to get pissy over that. I know I am a bit saccharine at times. -- "A bit" being like when Noah said "looks like we are in for a bit of rain."
Gabriele Graves
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12-15-2008 15:14
Ooo, can I do it? I always wanted to, ...please?

OK, here goes...*concentrates*
ZOMG!!! TEH SKY IS FALLING!!!

How did I do? :D
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 18:36
From: Gabriele Graves
Ooo, can I do it? I always wanted to, ...please?

OK, here goes...*concentrates*
ZOMG!!! TEH SKY IS FALLING!!!

How did I do? :D


I wonder if you'll be playing the smart ass if tiers do go up ;)
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Gabriele Graves
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12-15-2008 18:45
From: Maelstrom Janus
I wonder if you'll be playing the smart ass if tiers do go up ;)
Oh I expect so, will you? ;)
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 18:54
From: Gabriele Graves
Oh I expect so, will you? ;)[/QUOTE

drop by my 512 sq m in Nebelung when Im online and let me know...

(its for sale if you want it )
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Gabriele Graves
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12-15-2008 18:55
From: Maelstrom Janus
From: Gabriele Graves
Oh I expect so, will you? ;)[/QUOTE

drop by my 512 sq m in Nebelung when Im online and let me know...

(its for sale if you want it )
Thanks but I am full atm. I thought you said you sold up anyway?
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 18:59
From: Gabriele Graves
Thanks but I am full atm. I thought you said you sold up anyway?


I did but having membership allows me to keep 312 sqm 'free' of charge if you remember - although its up for sale too now seeing as its not a lot of use on its own... lindens really do need to look at their tier pricing policies..... I cant be the only one who sold up because prices are excessive...
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Gabriele Graves
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12-15-2008 19:03
From: Maelstrom Janus
I did but having membership allows me to keep 312 sqm 'free' of charge if you remember - although its up for sale too now seeing as its not a lot of use on its own... lindens really do need to look at their tier pricing policies..... I cant be the only one who sold up because prices are excessive...
How are the tier prices more excessive now than when you first bought mainland? They have been stable for as long as I can remember. Or are you saying you were affected by the OS too? That I can understand, truly but as I said in the other mainland tier thread, if LL are keeping mum about price increases then *nobody* else has better info available.
Maelstrom Janus
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12-15-2008 19:07
From: Gabriele Graves
How are the prices more excessive now than when you first bought mainland? They have been stable for as long as I can remember. Or are you saying you were affected by the OS too? That I can understand, truly but as I said in the other mainland tier thread, if LL are keeping mum about price increases then *nobody* else has better info available.


well on top of v.a.t the pound has tumbled in value against the dollar thus causing my tier to soar...'that's not lindens fault ' you may respond... Id reply Lindens have an office in the uk and charged v.a.t. as a result of their european presence...but those of us in england etc. still have to pay our tiers in dollars...

some might ask whats the point of the european office if we still have to pay american prices in american currency...

naturally Ive pointed this out on numerous occasions

and naturally I was ignored...
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