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Does anyone live in Cherry Hill, NJ? Dangers of a Virtual World presentation tonight

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01-12-2010 12:48
No "Still" about it. Just another self important windbag "intellectual" trying to convince people he knows something they don't. Nothing but 100% USDA Prime Bullshit.
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01-12-2010 12:49
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01-12-2010 12:51
From: Brenda Connolly
No "Still" about it. Just another self important windbag "intellectual" trying to convince people he knows something they don't. Nothing but 100% USDA Prime Bullshit.

Hey!!! Watch it lady, or we self important windbag intellectuals are going to AR you! And expose you and your filthy preverted coohorts to a shocked (and fully conscious) public!
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oooo! Now if I lived where you do and wasn't busy RL, I wouldn't be able to resist going, and I would offer prayers to all Gods that he was planning a live demo (unlikely, but possible).

And if not, I would write down the URLs for a few youtube videos that show the better side of SL. For example, the Starry Nights one ... and the SL version of the morphing faces one ... and there's ones from several academic institiutions ... prolly some from various Caledonians ...

And I would bring my notebook, and use the blackberry for internet access.

*rubs her hands gleefully*

:)


I'd have a root canal before I'd waste my time listening to that drivel.

Besides, the only notbook I own is spiral bound and all I have is Blackberry wine.
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01-12-2010 13:13
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Well, it's not a good sign, I'll grant you . . . It does sound a bit like the quasi-literate patter of a barker outside a circus freak show tent.

Still. Still . . .

Sure, they could have a good presentation about protecting your identity, the near complete lack of consumer protection in SL, there's TSL for children and the like.

I get the idea it's going to be more like a field trip to a Yiff dungeon, and half the audience squirming in their seats thinking "that's hot".
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01-12-2010 13:17
From: Brenda Connolly
No "Still" about it. Just another self important windbag "intellectual" trying to convince people he knows something they don't. Nothing but 100% USDA Prime Bullshit.


Worse. This is a police officer giving the presentation.

From: Cherry Hill in Jersey
Lt. Rampolla is a national speaker on the topic of cyber crimes, virtual worlds and cyber bullying.


And for the record, I am not in favor of stopping him, but I am strongly in favor of mocking him. However, if it does focus on preventing bullying and harassment in virtual worlds, I am in favor. The sensationalist coverage however makes me skeptical.

From: New Jersey Prevention Network
Dangers of Virtual Worlds
This presentation will take participants deep into the virtual worlds that exist online that attract young adults. Law enforcement, social service specialists and child advocates should be concerned and alarmed on how this virtual life will affect kids AND adults.


There's more of him quoted at http://www.10news.com/news/18028483/detail.html which includes his warnings of ageplay, S&M, and the scientific figure that 50% of SL residents are there for sex.
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01-12-2010 13:21
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Hang on, everyone! How do we KNOW that this is going to be a crock of sh*t? There seems to be a lot of prejudging going on here!

Let the man speak! Hear him with prejudgment or prejudice, for this too is a necessary condition of free speech!

(Wow, I am on an aphoristic roll today!)

No problem at all with free speech, except when it is a taxfeeder doing it on my dime.
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01-12-2010 15:19
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There's more of him quoted ... which includes his warnings ... and the scientific figure that 50% of SL residents are there for sex.


He obviously hasn't spent any quality time in SL, or he'd have a much more realistic figure.* And how much cybersex has he been having while on the payroll of the Park Ridge PD?

*I leave it to reader to decide whether "more realistic" means higher or lower, and I should also note that approximately 42.3% of all statistics are complete fabrications.
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01-12-2010 15:26
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01-12-2010 15:30
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Worse. This is a police officer giving the presentation.



And for the record, I am not in favor of stopping him, but I am strongly in favor of mocking him. However, if it does focus on preventing bullying and harassment in virtual worlds, I am in favor. The sensationalist coverage however makes me skeptical.



There's more of him quoted at http://www.10news.com/news/18028483/detail.html which includes his warnings of ageplay, S&M, and the scientific figure that 50% of SL residents are there for sex.


I wonder if he is going to bring his own ominous music with him.
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01-12-2010 15:32
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He obviously hasn't spent any quality time in SL, or he'd have a much more realistic figure.* And how much cybersex has he been having while on the payroll of the Park Ridge PD?

*I leave it to reader to decide whether "more realistic" means higher or lower, and I should also note that approximately 42.3% of all statistics are complete fabrications.


What the hell is he doing in Cherry Hill if we works in Park Ridge? That's on the opposite end of the State, near the New York border. He should be acting like an idiot in his own county.
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01-12-2010 15:35
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Lt. Rampolla is quick to add that while this virtual world may be innovative, it can be incredibly dangerous for children. There are rooms in Second Life that have been created by its users that are beyond pornographic.

"There is sexual abuse, torture, rape," he says.

There's a site called "Suicide for Fun." Forms of bestiality exist, and so does age play, Rampolla warns.

It's very possible that what appears to be a 10-year-old avatar could be controlled by a 50-year-old man.

"I would say 50 percent of people are in Second Life for some kind of sexual interaction," says Rampolla.

There are rooms created specifically for drugs, where your avatar can uncover information about different kind of narcotics and then practice making or using them.

Hmmmm.

Well, the 50% of us are here for sex thing is a bit silly. (I wonder which 50% of me wants THAT?) And the whole focus on RL kiddies in SL is something of a red herring, that is presumably just playing a riff of the whole Rep. Kirk thing.

But anyone care to take issue, factually speaking, with the rest of this?
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01-12-2010 15:40
*Gasp!* *Shudder!* *Murmur, Murmur!*

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It's very possible that what appears to be a 10-year-old avatar could be controlled by a 50-year-old man.

Perhaps even one who works as a Police Officer.
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Lt. Rampolla is quick to add that while this virtual world may be innovative, it can be incredibly dangerous for children.

Someone remind Chief Wiggum that children aren't supposed to be is SL.

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"I would say 50 percent of people are in Second Life for some kind of sexual interaction,"


Even if that were true, so what. They are adults. If that is what people use SL for, whose business is it other than theirs?
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01-12-2010 15:48
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But anyone care to take issue, factually speaking, with the rest of this?

Any children here are breaking the rules. When found they are banned. Also calling everyone under 18 a child is nothing but a word game. 16 and 17 year olds are not children.

Drug use? I wouldn't trust any "technique" I learned on SL for making meth. Anyway, those recipes are common on the interwebz.


Child/adult sex.......banned whenever and where ever it is found.

Bestiality, sex, suicide, etc.............Welcome to the interwebz. Try typing any of these into Google.

The 10 y/o AV is really a 50 y/o truck driver named Earl...........Who cares?
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01-12-2010 15:50
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But anyone care to take issue, factually speaking, with the rest of this?

Typical internet scaremongering.

While some of the statements may be factually correct, at least on the surface, they don't exactly "shock the unconscious" and are at best weasel wording.

"It's very possible that what appears to be a 10-year-old avatar could be controlled by a 50-year-old man."

Really? In the immortal words (er, word) of Peter Gabriel, "So?". What do you expect, that it's a 10-year old in a virtual world where 10-year olds are not allowed?

""There is sexual abuse, torture, rape," he says."

Incomplete, as he left the word "roleplay" out of it. Either that, or this police officer does not know the definition of the word "rape".

Officer Barbrady needs to go back to his day job of ticketing jaywalkers or whatever the hell it is he does in Park Ridge.

Like I said earlier, it could be a good idea if it dealt with real safety concerns in Second Life. It appears Barney Fife took the low road and decided to address the lurid but comparatively harmless aspects of SL.
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01-12-2010 15:52
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Like I said earlier, it could be a good idea if it dealt with real safety concerns in Second Life. It appears Barney Fife took the low road and decided to address the lurid but comparatively harmless aspects of SL.

At least Andy would smack Barney down before he got this out of hand.
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01-12-2010 15:52
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Any children here are breaking the rules. When found they are banned. Also calling everyone under 18 a child is nothing but a word game. 16 and 17 year olds are not children.

Drug use? I wouldn't trust any "technique" I learned on SL for making meth. Anyway, those recipes are common on the interwebz.


Child/adult sex.......banned whenever and where ever it is found.

Bestiality, sex, suicide, etc.............Welcome to the interwebz. Try typing any of these into Google.

The 10 y/o AV is really a 50 y/o truck driver named Earl...........Who cares?

Well, "who cares" is another issue. And I agree, of course, that SL is not in any of these regards very different from anything else on the internet -- with the exception. primarily, of the element of role play.

I don't disagree with most of what you say here, Chris. I'm just pointing out that our "police officer" doesn't seem to me to be as poorly informed as some are suggesting.
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01-12-2010 15:56
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Typical internet scaremongering.

While some of the statements may be factually correct, at least on the surface, they don't exactly "shock the unconscious" and are at best weasel wording.

"It's very possible that what appears to be a 10-year-old avatar could be controlled by a 50-year-old man."

Really? In the immortal words (er, word) of Peter Gabriel, "So?". What do you expect, that it's a 10-year old in a virtual world where 10-year olds are not allowed?

""There is sexual abuse, torture, rape," he says."

Incomplete, as he left the word "roleplay" out of it. Either that, or this police officer does not know the definition of the word "rape".

Officer Barbrady needs to go back to his day job of ticketing jaywalkers or whatever the hell it is he does in Park Ridge.

Like I said earlier, it could be a good idea if it dealt with real safety concerns in Second Life. It appears Barney Fife took the low road and decided to address the lurid but comparatively harmless aspects of SL.

Yep. I agree that this is all not very well or precisely expressed. And there probably is an element of "fear mongering" at work here. But this is also not quoted from his actual presentation, but from a very brief blurb put together by a news station, so I wouldn't condemn his approach purely on this basis.

I am quite willing to accept that there might be holes in his approach that you can drive a truck through. Again, however, I'd want to hear what HE actually has to say before merely dismissing it.
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01-12-2010 16:02
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Well, "who cares" is another issue. And I agree, of course, that SL is not in any of these regards very different from anything else on the internet -- with the exception. primarily, of the element of role play.

I don't disagree with most of what you say here, Chris. I'm just pointing out that our "police officer" doesn't seem to me to be as poorly informed as some are suggesting.

I would be interested in how long he has spent in world. What did he search for. Did he reveal that he was an undercover government employee? If not, why not? Did he engage in child/adult sex? If so, will he face charges?
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01-12-2010 16:05
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hmmm, "shock the conscious"...

Wonder if it will shock people who are unconscious...?



HA! I was going to post the exact same thing, Kat!

Seriously, I wondered if our OP had inadvertently committed the typo...but when I checked the actual site, sure enough: "shock the conscious".

No doubt this is a precursor of the level of quality of the presentation.
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01-12-2010 16:06
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I would be interested in how long he has spent in world. What did he search for. Did he reveal that he was an undercover government employee? If not, why not? Did he engage in child/adult sex? If so, will he face charges?


And the biggest question of all...What Political Office does he have plans on running for in the near future.
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01-12-2010 16:07
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Yep. I agree that this is all not very well or precisely expressed. And there probably is an element of "fear mongering" at work here. But this is also not quoted from his actual presentation, but from a very brief blurb put together by a news station, so I wouldn't condemn his approach purely on this basis.

I am quite willing to accept that there might be holes in his approach that you can drive a truck through. Again, however, I'd want to hear what HE actually has to say before merely dismissing it.


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01-12-2010 16:09
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01-12-2010 16:09
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Officer Barbrady needs to go back to his day job of ticketing jaywalkers or whatever the hell it is he does in Park Ridge.
That may be exactly it: our good officer is just trying to get a little exposure with his travelling SL freak show so he can get the hell out of Mayberry. I mean, wouldn't you?
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