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Trout Recreant
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03-10-2008 22:10
From: Ricardo Harris
Confucius says:

A guy who truly has lot's or even a few females on the side doesn't need to mention it. It's usually the ones who wish they had one or more then one that will put it out there. When you're sure of yourself and of what you have, self promotion isn't needed.


Dude. Seriously. Confucius never said that.
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Talarus Luan
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03-10-2008 22:21
From: Colette Meiji
Ricardo is right though - perfect gentlemen can be boring.

In SL especially. Some guys take so long to make their move you could fall asleep waiting.


*shrug* I am very much a gentle-dragon. It isn't because I am shy, but because I show great respect to the females for sharing affections with me.

Any female who feels she is waiting too long for me to "make my move" has not yet properly indicated / communicated her intent and desire, or there is some other blocking issue which precludes it which needs to be worked through first (if possible). It all comes down to proper courting communication and protocol. Hence the notion of "getting our signals crossed".

However, I agree with your basic premise. Some are actually very shy (and that goes both ways), and simply need a bit of patience and encouragement from their partner. Of course, if you are a "veteran", and are looking for same, I can see how it could be boring. Some folks don't have the patience to "train the newbs".
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03-10-2008 23:03
From: Damien1 Thorne
At least he didn't want you to be the Queen. ;)


Although, I'm sure he would wear the crown well! :)
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Eben Slade
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03-11-2008 02:08
A) Voice verification is for his "pets," apparently, and was not a requirement for the masquerade ball. I didn't have to verify my gender when I showed up. In this age of internet anonimity and lawsuits/sting operations, I can understand wanting to verify that a person at least sounds like what they represent themselves to be, especially before engaging in personal and protracted sexual role-play.

B) In regards to pets, can ANY relationship in SL *really* be called a "sexual relationship?" I mean, come on...it's just another multi-player role-playing game, like WOW, except the premise is men and women instead of orcs and goblins.

Anyway, this was not a sexual event. It was just a dance. There was one dancer who was "romantic" with his dance partner in open chat, but they kept the conversation above the neck, so it wasn't sexual...just mushy. Yes, the ladies referred to Rock as "Master" and he referred to them by various titles, but I was not forced or even asked to play along. It was the same as if I were around bi-lingual friends; they used their own "language" sometimes, but did not correct mine.

C) Gentlemen - REAL gentlemen - are not boring. What you're thinking of is a dud: polite, but boring. On the other hand, Clark Gable, Jack Nicholson, Anderson Cooper - those are *gentlemen* that I try to emulate. Polite, but engaging, witty, and fun.

D) It was set in a beautiful sim, and the dancers all had gorgeous outfits. This wasn't just a dance, but a fashion, animation and architecture show. It was so nice to enjoy some of the beauty of SL while forgetting just how commercial everything has gotten. Themed dances without sploders or tip jars or particle spam are so rare, and a lot of fun.

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Personally, I had a blast at Rock's masquerade ball. It was a nice change from the usual dance club in SL, I made some new friends, met a few creative builders who I can collaborate with on future projects, and had some wonderful conversations while dancing to some really great music.

Funny thing that...Rock came to the forums looking for an answer to a problem he had, I helped as best I could, and as a result I was rewarded with a good time. I wish more people had been there from the forums to enjoy the same experience.

And Rock, if you and your friends check this thread again, please feel free to call on me anytime!
Colette Meiji
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03-11-2008 04:13
From: Talarus Luan
*shrug* I am very much a gentle-dragon. It isn't because I am shy, but because I show great respect to the females for sharing affections with me.

Any female who feels she is waiting too long for me to "make my move" has not yet properly indicated / communicated her intent and desire, or there is some other blocking issue which precludes it which needs to be worked through first (if possible). It all comes down to proper courting communication and protocol. Hence the notion of "getting our signals crossed".

However, I agree with your basic premise. Some are actually very shy (and that goes both ways), and simply need a bit of patience and encouragement from their partner. Of course, if you are a "veteran", and are looking for same, I can see how it could be boring. Some folks don't have the patience to "train the newbs".


I was speaking about the ones who can't even recognize an engraved invitation when they get one.

It has nothing to do with training newbs, I don't date teenagers.

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As far as my comments about the collector status of the Original Poster - I was only joking. I'm sure their situation is whatever it is and it works for them.
Brenda Connolly
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03-11-2008 04:25
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Boy, I'd be screwed. I'm frequently mistaken for a man on the telephone.

Then you wouldn't have been screwed at that party...........
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03-11-2008 04:27
From: Love Hastings
His first name *is* Rock...

Yeah, look what it did for a certain Mr Hudson back in the day.
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Markubis Brentano
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03-11-2008 05:01
From: Brenda Connolly
Yeah, look what it did for a certain Mr Hudson back in the day.



well, somebody must have liked Mr Hudson's "rock"

:-)
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03-11-2008 05:39
From: Eben Slade
A)



C) Gentlemen - REAL gentlemen - are not boring. What you're thinking of is a dud: polite, but boring. On the other hand, Clark Gable, Jack Nicholson, Anderson Cooper - those are *gentlemen* that I try to emulate. Polite, but engaging, witty, and fun.

Anderson Cooper? ANDERSON COOPER???? Clark Gable definitely. Nicholson is a good one too, even Clooney has a bit of Gable in him.I'd still take Tyrone Power over all of them But I for the life of me don't get the thing for Anderson Cooper, from people of either sex. He just doesn't exude anything to me. Blech.
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03-11-2008 05:59
From: Ricardo Harris
Confucius says:

A guy who truly has lot's or even a few females on the side doesn't need to mention it. It's usually the ones who wish they had one or more then one that will put it out there. When you're sure of yourself and of what you have, self promotion isn't needed.


From: Trout Recreant
Dude. Seriously. Confucius never said that.


Confucius Jones from the 'hood might could have said that. Or perhaps Ricardo has an alt named Confucius. :p

Well, whoever first said it, it makes a lot of sense to me.
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Talarus Luan
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03-11-2008 06:42
From: Colette Meiji
I was speaking about the ones who can't even recognize an engraved invitation when they get one.


If you are coming out and just asking (hence an "engraved invitation" if there ever was one), I don't think there is a person who exists (or, if there is, he/she is in the VERY tiny minority) who wouldn't be able to recognize it. Otherwise, regardless of how obvious a "hint" is to you, it can still be easily mistaken for something else.

From: someone
It has nothing to do with training newbs, I don't date teenagers.


That's a pretty gross generalization, don't you think? There are quite a few "newbs" who are definitely NOT teenagers. It's a new medium for interaction and communication. Everyone, young or old, is a newb at one point, and can easily have newb courting issues, either because of lack of proper experience in RL, or with how it translates to SL (it is most decidedly NOT the same thing).
Rock Ryder
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03-11-2008 07:02
Eben, many thanks for your kind words.

My only intent was to put on a special dancing event for the RPers in Anubia, and everyone who attended told me that they had had a great time, which was the object of the whole exercise.

You now have an open invite Eben to all our special events, and I will inform you of each one as they come up.

For those who have wondered about the Master/Pet situation, I will clear that up for you now:

The Palace of Anubia is ruled by a Pharaoh (me) and a Queen. In charge of the day-to-day running of the Palace is the Princess Acropolis. The Palace is divided into four Houses, named Ankh, Djed, Ma'at and Scarab, and is ruled over by four Ladies of the Court, each of who has 4 Pets of her own. That is how the figure of 22 females is arrived.

We do things very differently in Hoini, tand are not like Gorean sims, for example. In Hoini the Pets are pampered mercilessly, and all their needs are taken care of, and all shapes, skins, hair, clothes etc are provided by the Palace. There are no punishments of any kind in Anubia, and all the Pets who are there stay because they want to, and enjoy the RP.

The decision to use voice verification for new applicants was a joint one. All of the members of the community agreed that we would be more comfortable knowing the gender of a newcomer, and we make no apology for that. The numbber of applicants in itself did not decline, but when we asked for voice verification during the interview around 50% declined. We still had no problem at all filling all roles from the remaining 50%, and we are all very comfortable now, and many of our members now use Voice regularly, and Skype with each other.

I have never tried to 'advertise' any event in the forums, as none of our events are commercial in any way. We just decide to have a party, a dance, or some other event, and then try to make it unique and special, and sometimes we need volunteers to help out.

For the last event, the Masquerade Ball we realised that it would look a whole lot more elegant if we had a nice balance of males and females there, with the guys in their tuxes and masks and the girls in their ballgowns and masks, and there were some spectacular outfits on display I can tell you, as all the girls in Anubia go out of their way to look spectacular, which the Palace fully sponsors.

It is a great sim, based on old-fashioned ideas of romance, and we all enjoy it thoroughly. It is not everyone's cup of tea of course, but there are sims in SL for just about everyone, so there is no need to poke fun at anyone else, just do your own thing.

Brenda and Collette, if you would ever like a tour of the sim, and see the Place for yourself, just IM in world and I will take for one of our special tours (and by 'special' I simply mean one that you really will enjoy, and remember, on a golden magic carpet and in full themed costume), you can then report back to the Forum, do not worry, you will be quite 'safe' ;-)

As an aside, ArchTX was one of the principal architects for for the sim, having designed the SkyHomes there, and the Scheherazade Gardens which have won so much praise in the forums for the Hoini sim.

Rock
Colette Meiji
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03-11-2008 07:02
From: Talarus Luan
If you are coming out and just asking (hence an "engraved invitation" if there ever was one), I don't think there is a person who exists (or, if there is, he/she is in the VERY tiny minority) who wouldn't be able to recognize it. Otherwise, regardless of how obvious a "hint" is to you, it can still be easily mistaken for something else.


LOL this sounds like rationalizing. Its okay. I am sure its no one you know, You don't have to stick up for them.

From: Talarus Luan

That's a pretty gross generalization, don't you think? There are quite a few "newbs" who are definitely NOT teenagers. It's a new medium for interaction and communication. Everyone, young or old, is a newb at one point, and can easily have newb courting issues, either because of lack of proper experience in RL, or with how it translates to SL (it is most decidedly NOT the same thing).


I don't date 40 year old virgins either.




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LOL .. I think you are taking my comment about gentleman too seriously. I know everyone is loathe to admit Ricardo might be a little bit right about anything...

But its true, sometimes a "perfect" gentleman isn't what the doctor ordered, a little pinch of scoundrel can be better.

Now I am not talking about rude jerks. I am more referring to the "perfect" than the "gentleman" part.
Talarus Luan
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03-11-2008 12:19
From: Colette Meiji
LOL this sounds like rationalizing. Its okay. I am sure its no one you know, You don't have to stick up for them.


Your smartass comments notwithstanding, the point still stands. It takes two to tango, and if one can't be bothered to "play the game", then one gets exactly what one deserves. If one's partner seems a boring lout, maybe one should try a little introspection before declaring someone a dud. It has little to nothing to do with being a gentleman, perfect or not (there is no such thing anyway; it's an absurd absolutionist generalization). Some people may have a bit of naivety or social ineptness. You're of course free to ignore or make fun of them at your whim when it comes to a social setting, but don't paint them with your monotone brush.

From: someone
LOL .. I think you are taking my comment about gentleman too seriously. I know everyone is loathe to admit Ricardo might be a little bit right about anything...


Maybe. Nice guys already finish last. They don't need you kicking them when they are down. But, feel free; it's apparently a free country to laugh at and berate other people around here.

From: someone
But its true, sometimes a "perfect" gentleman isn't what the doctor ordered, a little pinch of scoundrel can be better.

Now I am not talking about rude jerks. I am more referring to the "perfect" than the "gentleman" part.


When it comes to the behavior of rude jerks and scoundrels, all too often it is in for a penny, in for a pound. Women typically get what they ask for, though not necessarily what they wanted. Kinda goes back to that first point again about communication. Send the proper signals, communicate well, and enjoy the rewards. Screw it up and loathe the result. Don't blame someone for being nice who is missing your supposed "stone carvings".
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03-11-2008 12:23
Rock,

Great post. Sounds like you have a wonderful community there. I wonder if you know about half of the infighting that goes on though. ;)
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03-11-2008 12:28
Aaaw, Talarus. Colette just has different views than you, I don't think they're specifically aimed at you. She's simply stating what attracts her to a (SL?) man.

I for one have been reading your earlier comments, and you don't sound boring at all. In fact, judging by your words, you're probably a very popular Gentleman Dragon. And a handsome one, too.
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03-11-2008 12:31
From: Eben Slade

C) On the other hand, Clark Gable, Jack Nicholson, Anderson Cooper - those are *gentlemen* that I try to emulate. Polite, but engaging, witty, and fun.

And Rock, if you and your friends check this thread again, please feel free to call on me anytime!


What are you talking about?? Clark Gable was and Jack Nicholson is a total womanizer....Anderson Cooper........well....he IS boring.

As for that last part......Don't think you're getting any of his pets.........not gonna happen........
Isabeau Imako
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03-11-2008 12:43
Maybe people use the word differently?

gentleman |ˈjentlmən|
noun ( pl. -men)
1 a chivalrous, courteous, or honorable man : he behaved like a perfect gentleman.

This is what it means for me.
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Talarus Luan
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03-11-2008 12:46
From: Isabeau Imako
Aaaw, Talarus. Colette just has different views than you, I don't think they're specifically aimed at you. She's simply stating what attracts her to a (SL?) man.


No, the earlier comments were definitely just generalizations. I only meant to provide a clarification that it's not always the gentlemen that were the problem.

The latter comments, however, were very obviously antagonistic towards my stance, if not towards me specifically.

I accept that she has different views, I simply object to the one-sided generalization, is all. I also realize it wasn't even her generalization, originally, as she correctly points out, but since she echoed it and expanded on it, even as a supposed jest (I apparently missed the humor in it, go figure), I responded.

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I for one have been reading your earlier comments, and you don't sound boring at all. In fact, judging by your words, you're probably a very popular Gentleman Dragon. And a handsome one, too.


No one knows anyone until they bother to get to know someone. I may be; I may not be. I would certainly be no judge of myself for another, but I would like to believe that is true.
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03-11-2008 12:52
From: Ricardo Harris
I don't know but it seems to me that being the "perfect gentlemen" is quite boring. Besides, some females don't like too much of that either.

I'll explain: Women that want a perfect gentlemen all night long, you most likely won't get anywhere with. A female that doesn't mind a bit less of it will most likely be less of a prude and you're likely to have more fun with, you both will as you don't need to keep up an impression and you can both relax more.
There is a time and a place for the "perfect gentlemen" and there is a time and a place for being raunchy, seductive, animalistic, eager, laid back, etc.... The best are those that can figure that timing out.
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03-11-2008 13:02
From: Trout Recreant
Dude. Seriously. Confucius never said that.


Either that or he was in a hell of a drunken stupor when he said it.. right before he decided to become a monk.

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Stormy Dyrssen
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03-11-2008 13:06
From: Derbor Torok
Either that or he was in a hell of a drunken stupor when he said it.. right before he decided to become a monk.

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Confuscious say man standing on toilette, high on pot...............
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Ricardo Harris
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03-11-2008 13:12
From: Trout Recreant
Dude. Seriously. Confucius never said that.





He didn't? And all these years here I thought he had. What a ripoff!
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03-11-2008 13:16
From: Ricardo Harris
He didn't? And all these years here I thought he had. What a ripoff!

You might be thinking of Confoundus, his younger brother. I think he wnt into the restaurant business.
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03-11-2008 13:19
From: Colette Meiji

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LOL .. I think you are taking my comment about gentleman too seriously. I know everyone is loathe to admit Ricardo might be a little bit right about anything...





HEYYYY!!!

Don't say that you'll hurt my fragile psyche. You know fully well how sensitive I am. The nerve...
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