Vote on Your Adult/Mature/PG Rating

You're not the first person to wonder about that, at least OUTSIDE the labs.

My land is PG apart from one painting that probably makes it M. The thing is though, I bought it for the range of things I can do with it. I could make it Adult tomorrow if I wanted to. Soon that option will be taken away. Also, I will no longer be able to sell it to someone who wants to make it adult.

I voted Adult, because it could be Adult.

Having an erotic painting on display isn't (Adult) by default. What would make it (Adult) would be if you advertised events for the public exhibition of the painting or have it in search for sale. (^_^)

Unless you're doing something else. Your land sounds (Mature). (^_^)y

I had to vote Adult since my sim is used for roleplay that MAY sometimes consist of sex or violence. I also do list the place in search with some keywords that will probably be considered adult by some random Linden at some point down the road.

Oh, for sure, right now it is Mature. My point was I may at some future time want to add something or change it's use that makes it adult. Once the changes to ratings are complete I will no longer be able to do that. What I can do with the land is important to me rather than what I am doing with it right now. That's why I voted adult.

Everyone is focusing on the advertising aspect, but the very first sentence of the Adult definition states:



So merely hosting conduct, or displaying content counts as Adult (and their definitions ARE broad). It seems to me that they are planning to check advertising as an easy way to identify Adult content as they "can't monitor all ephemeral content and conduct within Second Life."

Right now my sim is rated PG, but since I share it with several other people who may do "mature" things behind closed doors LL may say it should be Mature. I wonder if having public access unchecked has any affect on things.

To be consistent with Blondin's comments, that means they're thinking of "hosting" in the context of things like events, and "displaying" in the context of advertising and promotion.

Oh Blondin would just say "what do you all think we should mean? Discuss."

I chose PG based on what's on my parcels right now, but I should have picked mature because I want to keep the option of showing a classical nude painting in the future. Some people have found a painting I now display of a ghoulish women whose tongue is turning into a bunch of snakes to be suggestive -- suggestive of what, I don't want to know.

This just illustrates their inability to write clear, consistent standards. Note that the first sentence also mentions illicit drug use, but the bullet list that follows makes no mention of it.

Writing these sort of standards isn't difficult, just tedious. In fact, it's easier than writing prose once you get past the urge to write an essay instead of a specification. The hard part is deciding what you want it to be.

So far, you're still talking about personal effects. That is still (Mature). (^_^)

Now. Do you plan to advertise services using these additions? Poseball strip club? Public sex den? "Come one, come all"? Weekly rape-off events? If so, then, okay... (Adult). (^_^)

If what you're doing is adding to your personal property, it is still (Mature). (^_^)y

Okay, they win the 'lost in translation' trophy there. In context, though, "Hosting conduct" and "displaying" refers to events and not constructions. If anything, it's the verbal gray area that really only comes up when we go on the internet. (^_^)

I'll try to think in real-world context...

Putting a picture on "display" is much like a museum or public exhibition. It is open and advertised to be seen in a broad context. In this method it can be viewed by crowds and there's an open invitation to "come and look". Even if it's exclusively adult or offensive. (^_^)

Putting a picture over your mantle is a private matter. The word "display" can still be used. People offended by the image can still see it if they try. Be it by snooping your windows or picking your door locks while you're away from home. But, there is no open invitation for someone to come and see it. (^_^)

Now.. In the context of SL camming is much easier. But, camming is still snooping and snooping doesn't automatically create the context of a public exhibition. That said, private collections of a "mature" nature are fine on (Mature) land and only become (Adult) when they become "Red light district" material as in advertised and public locations, implements, and events. (^_^)y

One hopes that the people responding to maturity ratings violations will follow the definitions as stated here. Not what you think it means, but what it actually says. I worded the poll to be:

given the definitions as they read now, how is your land classified.

If the definitions are fuzzy to *you*, they likely will be fuzzy for the governance staff also.

In retrospect, I should have included an option for "I cant decide". It would have provided useful measurement of how badly written the definitions are.

My intent was to see how far off the "2-4% adult" claim of the Lindens is, which seems to be pretty far off the mark

I was listening to one of the brown bag meetings earlier, they are driving this policy via search, so that's why search is such an important defining line in the content they're frowning upon.

I still don't get what these "obvious adult keywords" are. So, how could I just assume that a keyword that LL considers obviously adult is or is not an adult keyword in the eyes of LL or someone with a bone to pick who files a AR?

For instance, just as an example, the word "GAY" -- is that an obvious adult keyword? To Fred Phelps, it's an obvious adult keyword. Is it to LL?

And another thing, are obvious adult keywords only English key words, or are there specific languages that will be also considered?

Just wondering.

Count me as another who just isn't sure, based on the new definitions.

Right now, my land is a squeaky-clean PG, because I've been devoting my prims to my garden and don't have much personal content out. But I do have furniture with "certain animations" in my inventory, as well as art that probably isn't PG, and I'm living on M-rated land because I want the option to put them out, or to try on skins in my skybox, or whatever.

My understanding based on what I've read in the forums is that if I put that furniture and art out in my personal skybox, for my personal use, it's Mature. But the information the Lindens have provided at the links from the blog seem to indicate that those are Adult in any context. Of course, as those guidelines are re-written, it could be made clearer over time... I hope my current impression is mistaken.

So, I guess, PG with a side of M, depending on what the definition of the word 'is' is...

Personally, I think LL is going at this bass-ackwards and could have much more easily made the new continent the G-rated continent and offered free moves to existing creators who wanted to move off the Mature/Adult grid.

I voted Adult, but I will probably split off my sexually-oriented content into a separate store (possibly even a different brand entirely) so I can continue to do business in my current Mature location. As much as I've whined about all this to whoever will listen, I guess I'm lucky to have the option since most of my stuff is pretty tame.

Pg

This pretty much the standard method of getting changed at any Linden-owned Welcome Area and Sandbox on PG mainland for many of the people there. And I cant see LL providing changing rooms anytime ever and forcing new people into them. Can imagine it though. Lines and lines of pose stands full of people in various states of undress. lol =) Be more people in there wanting to help than anywhere else in SL

So ya, based on what youve said youre quite OK to continue with your PG rating.

I marked Mature on the poll, but I've now realized that under the current WIP definitions, it would actually be Adult. I enjoy hanging around home in the nude, and consider my skin to be relatively realistic. Though I generally don't (Read: Never) participate in sexual activity, or extreme violence, I do hang around naked, as do a few of my friends.

I also occasionally put out a random giant penis or similar, just for kicks, and do own a full-featured sex bed, that I only really use for cuddling, as well as plenty of other items with adult-themed poses built in.

Hmmmmm.... so all land themed with Halloween type stuff is now Adult??

I see LOTS of people leaving over this mess

if I took out all the art and statuary, I could get away with mature...

I love that they list malls and parks as mature (lmao)

I voted PG as all I use my land for is as a venue to perform my music (stage) and a store to sell my stuff (treehouses, houses, stages). I usually have about 5 or fewer prims spare. If I need somewhere 'private' to change my clothes I have to hide behind my vendor.

That said I'm not bothered all that much about land classification. I've owned land in mature sims and aside from a greater prevalence of pr0n adverts and secks shoppes on mainland mature sims (island estates are better managed) I wouldn't have noticed any difference.

I'd rather see tier rates being reduced.

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