Sayonara Second life

Whaaaaaat? This has to be the weirdest poll ever...... and no pie option?

to the OP : bye

Oh and Raorth: Happy Birthday!!!

Thanks for that...

An almost perfect illustration of the point I was trying to make.

Try the url in my previous post, I think you will find it makes for disturbing reading...

My last post here.

Be safe!

I'm spending some time designing and building bath taps now…

…ummm I guess that says it all from my perspective.

I'm very sorry if this annoys people on this thread. But I'm a little tired of this decidedly arrogant attitude that everyone _must_ be able to find a goal in Second Life, and therefore, if somebody quits because they couldn't find one it must mean that that particular person is weak, or not experimenting, or has something wrong with them. It's because it's part of the same attitude that comes around to the attitude that new user volunteers still experience - that every single man, woman and child on the planet would adore Second Life if only the volunteers were doing their jobs properly.

I don't want to speak here for what Himiko might or might not enjoy. And you're quite right that if you want to learn to create things for the simple joy of doing so, then SL is fantastic. But if you want to create things in order to achieve something else.. then it's a lot weaker, unfortunately.

There are some bad people in RL. There are a lot of good people in RL. A lot of us in RL are somewhat insulated though and are thus protected from the bad .. but hidden from the good.

In SL they are all that much more approachable .. 'in your face' even! This doesn't bode well with everyone. Some blossom and grow with this discovery .. some run away screaming.

There is so much more potential here if you look beyond the game .. but it has got to be your judgement in the long term if your time here is beneficial or not. Always sorry to see anyone go, but when posters come here to say so, I wonder if they expect us to convince them otherwise. I can only tell of what keeps me here but there's that old saying .. You can please some of the people all of the time ....

So I went and checked that link. Yes disturbing reading indeed, but so is every other site about addiction. Also, the article itself and the initial reactions begged for more in a similar vein.
And sorry if I sounded harsh, it wasn't meant that way, but a first post and a poll to say you're leaving, strikes me personally as a bit odd.
I am always very much aware that there are real people with real feelings involved in all of this. I have seen people's real feelings get badly hurt, I also know people who have found real love. I've made friends, have run into idiots. I've also been upset by other people's actions and shared lots of laughs with others. And I found the quit programme option on my first day.

I'm sorry if you didn't find what you were looking for, or too much of it.


/me shrugs and wanders off to check the music listings

That's why I have a new account now and can be n00b again

I had quit SL for approx. 2 month but came back due to the fact that i really liked it and because my GF is still playing it (and who can seriously refuse ones partner if she wants you back?) but i didn't stop it because i didn't like it or because it was to time consuming, i simply stopped playing and canceled my account (and telling LL so during the cancellation procedure) because i was fed up with crashing 10 times a day often with a complete system restart. Now i run it on Linux and all these problems are gone.

The problem you faced will come back with every other thing you are involved in that much simply because you are involved ...... which makes you vulnerable. Investing real feelings always does that to a person no matter if its virtual or RL

So you have two choices: accept it or become a hermit

This is my view as well.

The key is achieving a kind of balance. Looking at things from the "all or nothing" perspective doesn't seem helpful. If your RL is in balance, and your SL is a part of your total life experience, there is surely nothing harmful with getting involved in your SL. If your SL starts to impede on your RL experiences, then there is an issue. If the OP was "addicted" such that her RL was suffering because she was spending too much time in SL, then that is an issue of balance for the OP, not a problem with SL.

As for me, some days I spend a lot of time on SL, and other days I am only on SL briefly because of other things that are going on in my RL. But I don't for a minute think that it's unhealthy to care about people in SL, as long as you keep the proper perspective on everything.

i kind of stumbled into Sl on the back of some internet reports about sex happening here,i thought yep that sounds right up my street and got myself an account,for the first month i spent most of my time in strip joints
When the novelty had worn off i wondered what i was going to do and whether Sl was worth staying with...then i started visiting places and wow is all i can say,there is a never ending supply of things and places to see,my jaw dropped in greenies...i might live there for ever,i hope i never run out of places to see!

I've seen that done in some weird German Porn before

There you go, bringing up the Germans again.....

Himoko,

You went from having this be about your own disappointing personal experience about SL to making a judgment about all of us who are on here having fun. I could go on a tirade about all the amazing good I see going on every day in SL but I think I'd be wasting keystrokes. Instead I'll change my earlier response too from one of sympathy to....

"Don't let the door hit you on the ass"

well having left and come back a few times cause one needs a break and to get fresh air. If you truly liked second life you would come back. I dont post in threads like this because i find forum announcments melodramatic. I will say though that I "left for good" and said nothing and no one noticed that I came back . Its better that way. I actually left for about 6 months just after they cut stipends back and just before they closed main forums. I'm one of these blend into the backgrounds type. I creep away and say very little and then one day I may turn up again if i truly liked the thing to start with. I dont think that telling people to get theirlife back is appropriate as you dont realize that most of us have probably done what you did but without the post.

I've just returned from being away for 5 weeks +. I told like 1 person that I was taking a break and no one even noticed. Its better that way in my opiniion but then that's me. In my previous absence which was much longer then that I put everything up for sale and packet everything away so I was more uh serious. This time I just took half the summer off and left everything running and simply paid the tier knowing that I would be back ^^. We have another one that left for good recently posting but this person has posted this before once.

I find the posting thing makes no sense really its a personal decision to find something else to do with your spare time. Then again I have played online games now for almost 15 years. I line up my winter entertainment about this time of the year because its a long hard winter here where there is often little to do. Going downhill skiing is fun or snowshoeing or cross country skiing but that's an all day afair that one does for an event and TV sucks so...

meanwhile try not to be so hard on those that do play games for entertainment cause we all take breaks and walk away from them

Wilhelm and others, SL is the first online game whose forums I've frequented, and I'm curious about something. I imagine that on every game's forums there are "Bye suckers this game suxxors" messages. For other games, are these usually because of technical reasons, or just not liking the game's design? Is this the only game where there are "Goodbye cruel world" messages because people are emotionally hurt by the other players, or is that fairly common in all games?

/me stands after Ash, stutters a bit, and says "Hi, I'm Lear. I'm an SL addict too!"

RL has to come first. If it doesn't, re-evaluate! But ... I agree with the others: don't let a few knocks turn you off to SL because there's lots here, and take a break before giving away your inventory.

But like I said, if you can't control it and SL overpowers RL concerns, then definitely STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD.

If only I could!

Haven't seen many other games with forums, mainly World of Warcraft. There, people usually leave for personal reasons.

Here, the technical problems with SL, LL and the grid are a legitimate beef, at least for some people, and in my opinion.

The "emotionally hurt" ones? Nah. Anyone who got through elementary and secondary school has seen less civilized and more nasty behavior in RL than they see here - and here they have more resources for dealing with it or at least getting away from it. (Most people no doubt wish they could have tp'd away from their schools at least a few times.) These fragile flowers, I think, are making excuses, or have head problems bigger than SL can help them with.

I've seen it in other games...its hard not to get emotionally involved in some way shape or form when you are putting people together, online or not. People pull the 'its not real life' crap too often, if people are intereacting, thats PEOPLE...if it was in say, the sims 2 or something, where you are interacting with just a computer, then yea its not real life. But when you make friends, they are friends, they are humans, people, entities etc.

(The rest of this is more aimed at the OP)

There was an OBNOXIOUS article in my newspaper this morning talking about how antisocial sl is, a big failure, a waste of time and space and you should be out doing RL things to become successful in RL and stay way from virtual this that n the other things. It was blamed for marriages breaking up (People, stop blaming the place and work with your partner, marriages have situations that are usually caused by other issues within the marriage, you cant blame SL because your partner cheated ffs)....it went on and on about how bad SL was.

I am highly annoyed that people who didnt find what they were looking for in SL just assume is all crap n carelessness...just because YOU didnt like it or took it wrong doesnt mean the world did. An alcoholic doesnt blame the booze for their ussue, its THEIR issue...and just because they had an issue doesnt mean the rest of the world is an addict. (There are cases were drugs are addictive, but that on a deeper level, dont start with me...)

Flat line it, I couldnt answer the poll because my answer wasnt there. No, not pie this time either. It made me think....but I didnt need to sit and rethink my entire SL existance. I know why I am here still. It made me think that you may have some far deeper issue that isnt going to be addressed by simply leaving SL and you need to be aware of that. SL didnt fail you or you fail SL...it just wasnt your cup of tea or you took it the wrong way. Please dont leave behind personal attacks on people you dont know and shouldnt be attempting to analize or you are just as bad as the person who wrote the article I read...ripping something to shreds and people involved without knowing them or really experiencing what they have.

I wish you luck in your RL, seriously. But, now that you have left SL, why are you still here on the forums for a place you are walking away from.... I have my thoughts on it but Iwont share. Just good luck and if you are going to go.....


Go.

eh I've seen "this game sucks", "this community sucks" , "sony took it over so it sucks" lol and then there are the ones that leave cause work makes them. Usually if its real life related they just start logging on less and less but let people they know why and then one day just close the account. Yes there are some folks who post it. Since half the time I dont know who they are its hard to get emotional over each invidual post as to why.

People stop like games they run out of content so part of the community leave and often entire communities shift and switch over time because once your friends go you often loose interest as well. I find SL not to take after many games in that the building and desigining etc is very solitary in fact you can play sl and never see a sole and still function. MMORPG"s are often more group oriented.

Lineage 2 got taken over by gold farmers and many of us left or the grind was too hard to when WoW was introduced people wnt there. Then people got borred of WoW due to lack of content so people would leave there.

Most people who play games though take breaks even long ones and return when there is more content. The only game I have never gone back to is WoW cause its too easy and full of kiddies to the extreme which gets hard to take.

pardon my typing its taken me an hour to type this cause my hands are grinding to a halt lol

time to lurk ^^


feeks like an hour anyhow..

"if you are going to go.....


Go."

yes...agrees.


Self justification is a natural reaction though. One might not agree on the reasoning.. hence the replies..


Anyone for more pie?

Its really good... honest, but i might not be giving any much longer.. someone doesnt like the filling... and has been telling me it doesnt taste good... they threw some at me.. now ive pie on my face... my pie.. damn.. took me hours to make.. how can anyone do that...well damn you all.. i am leaving now.. no more pie for anyone...

I'll share my thoughts.... It's to seek validation for his own self pity rather than looking within himself.

I loved your post Ashlynn. As an alcoholic I can attest that one of the first things your taught is that alcohol is "but a symptom". I know several sex addicts and it's very sad to watch them struggle with their addiction. One we all laugh about but it is debilitating. Seems based on that Himiko would insist we all give up sex as well.

That was the biggest bunch of nonsensical bullshit I've read since dan linden's broadly offensive blog. I hope you can deal with RL better than you dealt with SL.

tries to find pie addiction blog, how we shouldnt eat pie...carrots are much better for one.. everyone should be eating carrots not pie..

anyone for carrots?

they are really good... honest, but i might not be giving any much longer.. someone doesnt like the colour... and has been telling me it doesnt taste good... they threw some at me.. now ive carrots on my face... my carrots.. damn.. took me months to grow.. how can anyone do that...well damn you all.. i am leaving now.. no more carrots for anyone...

Today 07:44 PM

Carrot pie?! No wonder you're leaving.

mixed metaphor - a combination of two or more metaphors that together produce a ridiculous effect


http://lucullian.blogspot.com/2007/02/sweet-carrot-pie-with-orange-and-honey.html