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From SLU: Canadians will NOT be able to age verify.

Lucrezia Lamont
Neko Onmyoji
Join date: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 808
12-08-2007 09:44
From: Isabeau Imako
Lucrezia,

Not a dumb question at all. :) I, like you, love to understand the 'why's behind statements I don't understand. Even when it doesn't apply to me. Guess we're just very curious people, (not a bad thing.)

Firstly, when someone uses your SIN for any kind of fraud, because it is your own personal number that you *and only you* should be using for tax purposes and bank accounts, you are automatically flagged. Your credit rating is ruined!!! Employers often rely on this rating to see if you can be trusted (if you want to work anywhere where money is involved - and even where no money can be accessed by you.) Banks will not give you a loan (house/car/student,etc.) While of course, you will eventually be able to 'fix' it, it may take a very, very long time to erase all the negative information on you out there. Meanwhile, you didn't get the dream job-house-student loan, etc.

Sorry - very simplistic way of explaining this...


Thanks for explaining that. While I have no immediate use for my current perfect credit rating, giving out my SIN is not a good idea.

How about Driver's License then?
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Isabeau Imako
P'tite Poulette
Join date: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 2,335
12-08-2007 10:01
From: Lucrezia Lamont
Thanks for explaining that. While I have no immediate use for my current perfect credit rating, giving out my SIN is not a good idea.

How about Driver's License then?


Honestly, I've never had a Driver's License (I know, weird, but don't need it) so I don't really know how a 3rd party using this information is in any way 'dangerous'. Same thing goes for a Passport, (mine has expired...)

Although I know I'm a little paranoid when it comes to giving out my personal information
- did you see the movie "V"? - I also accept the negatives that go along with this. Like not being able to enter certain Adult regions. I certainly won't be whining to LL or the govt(?), LOL
Tiana Whitfield
Forever And A Day
Join date: 1 Apr 2007
Posts: 702
12-08-2007 10:23
From: Chris Norse
How can they provide the service if you don't provide what they need? If you don't want to provide what they need, then why are you whining about not getting the service?


People ARE trying to provide what they are asking for....but the site wont take it!

At least you have not gone your usual way and told people to go complain to their governments e.t.c... ;)
But the thread is still young, I have not finished reading it yet..

Not sure what they would complain about in this instance though...would the government listen to complaints over a site not working? ;)
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
12-08-2007 10:51
From: Lucrezia Lamont


How about Driver's License then?


In the UK a driver's licence is seen often seen as an official form of ID. Again it can be used for getting credit, opening bank accounts, opening a verified second life account creating a bank accepting lots of deposits and running away with the funds.
Oryx Tempel
Registered User
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 7,663
12-08-2007 12:00
From: Mortus Allen
Morden I am not terribly worried about my mailing address, I am worried about the contents of said mail traveling between me and the verifier. The RL Scenario was to demonstrate that mail CAN be opened in transport for any reason, and that include stealing information that can compromise your personal security.

OK I'm not bothering to read the rest of this thread (I know, I know, BAD Oryx) but look. If you send your stuff via REGISTERED MAIL, it is literally guarded in a padlocked cell at each Post Office along the way, and it is signed for and received by every party along the way. Registered/Certified/Insured mail is quite possibly one of the most secure ways to send information on the planet. Post Office employees have to be specially trained and licensed to handle Registered Mail, and face numerous felonies for mishandling ANY mail, let alone Registered Mail. That's US Mail, and I would assume that Canadian and EU Mail are all equally trustworthy. Obviously there would be issues if you were mailing from Rwanda, but you're very safe sending your stuff through the postal system here.
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Stella Stapleton
Stella's Mall
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 23
not allowed?
12-12-2007 09:49
From: Jig Chippewa
I have also posted info on this on the forum.
Do not be swayed by other people from other countries using these forums. As Canadians we are NOT allowed to divulge the type of information requested.



We aren't allowed? Really? I didn't know that...guess I shouldn't have provided my SIN number to my landlord and employer and bank then. *shrug*
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
12-12-2007 09:52
No cybors for Canadians, eh?
Adz Childs
Artificial Boy
Join date: 6 Apr 2006
Posts: 865
12-12-2007 10:22
From: Oryx Tempel
OK I'm not bothering to read the rest of this thread (I know, I know, BAD Oryx) but look. If you send your stuff via REGISTERED MAIL, it is literally guarded in a padlocked cell at each Post Office along the way, and it is signed for and received by every party along the way. Registered/Certified/Insured mail is quite possibly one of the most secure ways to send information on the planet. Post Office employees have to be specially trained and licensed to handle Registered Mail, and face numerous felonies for mishandling ANY mail, let alone Registered Mail. That's US Mail, and I would assume that Canadian and EU Mail are all equally trustworthy. Obviously there would be issues if you were mailing from Rwanda, but you're very safe sending your stuff through the postal system here.
mm yes but have your read president bush's signing statements on the matter? He has the ability to designate anyone as a terrorist at his sole judgment (exception: he can delegate this authority at will). This leads to all sorts of spying abilities, including opening your mail without ever getting even a retroactive warrant. What is worse, "NSL" orders can also inhibit your ability to share with the public or your friends or family, any testimony of your encounter with the nosy postmen, for indefinite periods of time (known to be many years in some cases).
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2770381&page=1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/04/AR2007010401702.html
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From: Tofu Linden
Hmm, there's nothing really helpful there, but thanks for pasting.
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