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MortVent Charron
Can haz cuddles now?
Join date: 21 Sep 2007
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12-24-2008 12:47
try Rebecca in the user name..
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Baloo Uriza
Debian Linux Helper
Join date: 19 Apr 2008
Posts: 895
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12-24-2008 13:31
I'd think the only way for parents to know if SL is on their child's computer is to keep checking the add/remove programs since most software now sidesteps the in store buying where parents could see what the gaming software was rated whether mature, pg, etc. Or use an OS that doesn't let you install stuff without root/administrator priveleges and don't share logins or passwords to the machine... |
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Baloo Uriza
Debian Linux Helper
Join date: 19 Apr 2008
Posts: 895
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12-24-2008 13:32
You can already prevent your child from installing anything by limiting the admin privileges on their login on the computer, at least you can on Vista, and I'd imagine that any other OS had something at least as good in place. Operating systems not stuck in the 1970s in terms of security have this in place by default, no additional work necessary. |
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Baloo Uriza
Debian Linux Helper
Join date: 19 Apr 2008
Posts: 895
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12-24-2008 13:34
Indeed...because every online service requires a password to get online. Maybe if you're on dialup or stuck with a DSL provider who uses PPPoE to oversell their network... |
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spinster Voom
Registered User
Join date: 14 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,069
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12-24-2008 13:39
try Rebecca in the user name.. OK, I found one person called Rebecca who has posted quite a lot in threads on these themes. Is she a parent? I didn't find a post saying she was, but I didn't look much past the first page. I did find this: The only thing worse than having corporations watch out for children is having the government do it. Common sense says to keep both as far away as possible. and this: Funny, I haven't heard a big outcry from parents to "Do something!!!!!11!!!111111" But I have heard the media and politicians scare mongering and creating monsters to fight in order to give themselves more power and a little free publicity. which express pretty much where I am coming from. Anyway, I have to go now as I have piles of stuff about to burn in the oven. Have a brilliant time, whatever you are celebrating, and I'd be interested in continuing this debate in the new year if you're not bored yet. |
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MortVent Charron
Can haz cuddles now?
Join date: 21 Sep 2007
Posts: 1,942
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12-24-2008 14:06
Maybe if you're on dialup or stuck with a DSL provider who uses PPPoE to oversell their network... Even with the others, you still have the option to secure the connection at the firewall (okay that is hoping most are going to slap a decent router/firewall in place....) There is always the simple option of locking access to the computer. Takes all of 5 minuted to set a password on the computer. _____________________
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Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
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12-25-2008 16:42
You're discounting the fact that there's a real person on the other end of that avatar. This is NOT the case in GTA. I'm not discounting anyone, of course there is a real person on the other end, there's also a real person playing GTA. It's the stability of some of those people that's questionable. |
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Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
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12-25-2008 16:43
I see it a different way, anyone simulating rape is unstable and needs to see a shrink. Hidden angers perhaps? Not good. Good point, I agree. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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12-25-2008 16:59
Yay, I have hidden angers and questionable stibility! \(^o^)/
Hmm... A collection of no less than 4 GTA games. Kid avatar. Adult avatar for D/S kidnap play. Heh... Lock me up now. (^_^)y _____________________
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Avawyn Muircastle
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Join date: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 528
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12-25-2008 17:27
Yay, I have hidden angers and questionable stibility! \(^o^)/ Hmm... A collection of no less than 4 GTA games. Kid avatar. Adult avatar for D/S kidnap play. Heh... Lock me up now. (^_^)y No comment. _____________________
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
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12-25-2008 17:30
Heh... Lock me up now. (^_^)y For whose benefit? _____________________
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Avawyn Muircastle
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Join date: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 528
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12-25-2008 17:37
Who do you think writes to the politicians? Do a search on age verification topics, you'll find plenty of parents here that want LL held solely responsible for kids getting onto the adult grid... How can that be possible though? Someone did write a post as to what I thought might exist = that she as a parent can actually be moderator of her own computer so her kids cannot download anything unless she/the parent allows it. Aren't there devices or methods for parents to control a computer? I haven't researched it, but I'd think there are??? I still reiterate my other statement that it's not LL's responsibility to watch what your kids are doing and/or downloading on the internet. Parents should know by to at least keep checking add/remove programs? How hard is that? _____________________
Won Best in Ice Cream
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Jesse Barnett
500,000 scoville units
Join date: 21 May 2006
Posts: 4,160
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12-25-2008 18:22
How can that be possible though? Someone did write a post as to what I thought might exist = that she as a parent can actually be moderator of her own computer so her kids cannot download anything unless she/the parent allows it. Aren't there devices or methods for parents to control a computer? I haven't researched it, but I'd think there are??? I still reiterate my other statement that it's not LL's responsibility to watch what your kids are doing and/or downloading on the internet. Parents should know by to at least keep checking add/remove programs? How hard is that? It's called admin, not moderator Sure parents can control every single facet of their computers, if the parents are not technically inept, which MANY are. I can field strip my computer and put it back together again and yet how many parents have to get their kids to show them how to operate the DVD player. I would venture to guess that in a good portion of the households, the children can run circles around their parent's computer skills. _____________________
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
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12-25-2008 20:29
I'm not discounting anyone, of course there is a real person on the other end, there's also a real person playing GTA. It's the stability of some of those people that's questionable. The difference is definitely in the stability of the person when playing games like GTA. I play it when I am in a really bad mood, or something violent. I find that it helps burn down the emotions until I can reason the situation out. Now, I can understand the questioning of using a rape simulation, but then, think about those that want to role play a rape scene in their sex lives. Because of the amount of planning and safe words, they probably don't see it as "real" but just role play. With a simulation... there's no real human, but neither is there a safety net.. Bah, I don't pretend to understand it. I don't want the government or any company that lists their age limits to have to be responsible for my child beyond the reasonable limits that they already take. My son is MY responsibility and by gumbo if I catch him in something like the main grid of SL before he's of age, LL will be the LAST thing he has to worry about. _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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12-25-2008 22:52
For whose benefit? Meh... It seems this crowd wants to psychoanalyze someone up until the point that someone looks them in the virtual eye. Come time they find that this made up statistic that they're relying on for their "unhealthy lifestyle" point of view comes from is being applied to a person they can talk to... "No comment". =^-^= _____________________
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Avawyn Muircastle
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 528
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12-26-2008 05:15
My next door neighbor. Who's sick of hearing GTA played on a 5.1 system by that mysterious person that never seems to leave the house. (^_^) Meh... It seems this crowd wants to psychoanalyze someone up until the point that someone looks them in the virtual eye. Come time they find that this made up statistic that they're relying on for their "unhealthy lifestyle" point of view comes from is being applied to a person they can talk to... "No comment". =^-^= If someone is on a rape sim simulating rape quite a lot or quite often it might be best to talk to a therapist about it, not get answers from people on a forum who have "opinions". Or, I'd say it's best to search inside yourself if you become addicted to this behavior of adult/child D/S. I'm sorry, but that sounds weird to me and may show some type of unresolved issues within that persons psyche. Again, all just my opinion, and it is meaningless, as it's just my opinion. And to another poster who said rl couples may simulating or rp rape in their relationship. I've heard of this, but I've also heard from many people who said they actully enchaged in a "sexual fantasy" whatever it might have been and found it to be not for them and/or a turn off. Now take simulated rl rape in a movie for an example. Not pretty to watch by any means and they depicit rape in movies a little more "real" such as the victim stabs the rapist in the eye with a pair of scissors or some other body part and gets away. So with that in mind, if a potential rape victim on a simulated rape sim is not given any weapons or any way to stun, stab or disable a rapist with a weapon or a fight the victim could win, then it's not being simulated right. But, don't ask me to gone to a sim and check it out. And to turn the other cheek on men, would a Loreena Bobbitt sim be considered healthy? Also, maybe this topic of rape sims might need it's own thread? _____________________
Won Best in Ice Cream
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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12-26-2008 06:19
If someone is on a rape sim simulating rape quite a lot or quite often it might be best to talk to a therapist about it, not get answers from people on a forum who have "opinions". Or, I'd say it's best to search inside yourself if you become addicted to this behavior of adult/child D/S. I'm sorry, but that sounds weird to me and may show some type of unresolved issues within that persons psyche. Again, all just my opinion, and it is meaningless, as it's just my opinion. True just your opinion and it is my opinion that lumping together rapeplay and adult/child D/S shows a lack of relativiation afterall the only thing these two have in common is that they are part of the large and vastly divers BDSM comunety. Maybe it is a good idea to seek profecional help for anyone who can not put lifestyles that differ from their own in perspective. This too is my opinion. |
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Avawyn Muircastle
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Join date: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 528
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12-26-2008 06:36
True just your opinion and it is my opinion that lumping together rapeplay and adult/child D/S shows a lack of relativiation afterall the only thing these two have in common is that they are part of the large and vastly divers BDSM comunety. Maybe it is a good idea to seek profecional help for anyone who can not put lifestyles that differ from their own in perspective. This too is my opinion. So raping is a lifestyle, then? _____________________
Won Best in Ice Cream
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Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 8,839
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12-26-2008 07:14
<snip>relativiation<snip> Pep (It's difficult to understand arguments if they are not made in English; qv Avawyn) _____________________
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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12-26-2008 07:32
So raping is a lifestyle, then? please do not twist my words around, I wrote rapeplay not rape, it's not my lifestyle but if someone likes to pretend to rape, kill, steal cars, life on a planet on the otherside of the sun etc. then they are free to do so where they don't bothers those that do not want to be involved. Is this the state of being in some way related to George W Bush, with particular respect to making up words? Pep (It's difficult to understand arguments if they are not made in English; qv Avawyn) You have my humble appoligy that english is not my first language and am happy to write in dutch if you prefer that. (yes that is ment sarcastic as my english is most likely better then your dutch) |
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Avawyn Muircastle
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Join date: 24 Jul 2008
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12-26-2008 07:37
Originally Posted by Abigail Merlin
<snip>relativiation<snip> Is this the state of being in some way related to George W Bush, with particular respect to making up words? Pep (It's difficult to understand arguments if they are not made in English; qv Avawyn Above post written by Pep. ________________________________________________________ Avawyn's response: Pep answered the above in regards to the subject of rape and child/adult D/S roleplay as being relative as to all people if put in context? Did I say that? No. I said if you become addicted to this rp behavior, you might wanna talk to a therapist. Avawyn wonders if Pep has ever heard of behavioral therapists? And I also said that child/adult D/S is weird, and I'm sure most of society would agree on that. Avawyn also discerns most of society would disagree that rape is relative. Rape is rape. Rape is not eating a candy cane. /me decides to put Pep on ignore, but then I have to deal with all his alts. Can't win. ho-hum. _____________________
Won Best in Ice Cream
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Avawyn Muircastle
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Join date: 24 Jul 2008
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12-26-2008 07:43
please do not twist my words around, I wrote rapeplay not rape, it's not my lifestyle but if someone likes to pretend to rape, kill, steal cars, life on a planet on the otherside of the sun etc. then they are free to do so where they don't bothers those that do not want to be involved. You have my humble appoligy that english is not my first language and am happy to write in dutch if you prefer that. (yes that is ment sarcastic as my english is most likely better then your dutch) Alrighty then. Rapeplay is not an act to simulate rape, then? And rapeplay is a lifestyle then that society should "accept" hands down as a "normal" lifestyle? And/or accept it as a "lifestyle" according to your other post? Also, how does living on the other side of the sun compare to a rape simulation? And also I'd like to know if a Lorenna Bobbitt sim is healthy? _____________________
Won Best in Ice Cream
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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12-26-2008 08:32
Alrighty then. Rapeplay is not an act to simulate rape, then? And rapeplay is a lifestyle then that society should "accept" hands down as a "normal" lifestyle? And/or accept it as a "lifestyle" according to your other post? I'll late you answer your question yourself, do you care what your neighbours do in their own house where you do not have to see it if you do not want to providing it is not breaking the law? Also, how does living on the other side of the sun compare to a rape simulation? ever heard of Gor? And also I'd like to know if a Lorenna Bobbitt sim is healthy? seeing that everything in SL is roleplay then I see no problem with someone pretending to cut of male genitals, a wel known erotic items creator sells cissors for it, I feel no need to go to a sim like that but won't stop others from doing that. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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12-26-2008 09:14
If someone is on a rape sim simulating rape quite a lot or quite often it might be best to talk to a therapist about it, not get answers from people on a forum who have "opinions". Or, I'd say it's best to search inside yourself if you become addicted to this behavior of adult/child D/S. I'm sorry, but that sounds weird to me and may show some type of unresolved issues within that persons psyche. UGH! I'm a prim addict! Is there are 12-step for that too?!?!? (>_< All these virtual addictions, it's a wonder I can show my virtual face to the virtual public. (>_<![]() Again, all just my opinion, and it is meaningless, as it's just my opinion. And to another poster who said rl couples may simulating or rp rape in their relationship. I've heard of this, but I've also heard from many people who said they actully enchaged in a "sexual fantasy" whatever it might have been and found it to be not for them and/or a turn off. Now take simulated rl rape in a movie for an example. Not pretty to watch by any means and they depicit rape in movies a little more "real" such as the victim stabs the rapist in the eye with a pair of scissors or some other body part and gets away. So with that in mind, if a potential rape victim on a simulated rape sim is not given any weapons or any way to stun, stab or disable a rapist with a weapon or a fight the victim could win, then it's not being simulated right. But, don't ask me to gone to a sim and check it out. And to turn the other cheek on men, would a Loreena Bobbitt sim be considered healthy? Also, maybe this topic of rape sims might need it's own thread? _____________________
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Avawyn Muircastle
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Join date: 24 Jul 2008
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12-26-2008 09:38
I'll late you answer your question yourself, do you care what your neighbours do in their own house where you do not have to see it if you do not want to providing it is not breaking the law? ever heard of Gor? seeing that everything in SL is roleplay then I see no problem with someone pretending to cut of male genitals, a wel known erotic items creator sells cissors for it, I feel no need to go to a sim like that but won't stop others from doing that. This is what I said above and notice the wording "quite often" and "addicted". ______________________________________________________________ If someone is on a rape sim simulating rape quite a lot or quite often it might be best to talk to a therapist about it, not get answers from people on a forum who have "opinions". Or, I'd say it's best to search inside yourself if you become addicted to this behavior of adult/child D/S. I'm sorry, but that sounds weird to me and may show some type of unresolved issues within that persons psyche. ________________________________________________________ Now I'll answer your questions. No, never heard of Gor. And if I had rl neighbors who could only get stimulated sexually by roleplaying rape or were addicted to this rp, I might think they'd need to see a shrink as well as there could definately be some "issues" there they need to deal with. o.O _____________________
Won Best in Ice Cream
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