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LittleMe Jewell
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07-06-2009 21:01
The only people that can be scammed this way are the fools that do not bother to read what they are clicking on. I have lost sympathy for the idiots that refuse to look out for themselves and want to blame everyone else for "what is done to them". The whole damn US has turned in to one big "let's put in all sorts of regulations and wave red flags everywhere to help the average person be more irresponsible". We really need to get back to a mode of just plain being responsible for our own actions -- and hell, online is as good a place as any to start.

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Brenda Connolly
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07-06-2009 21:02
From: LittleMe Jewell
The only people that can be scammed this way are the fools that do not bother to read what they are clicking on. I have lost sympathy for the idiots that refuse to look out for themselves and want to blame everyone else for "what is done to them". The whole damn US has turned in to one big "let's put in all sorts of regulations and wave red flags everywhere to help the average person be more irresponsible". We really need to get back to a mode of just plain being responsible for our own actions -- and hell, online is as good a place as any to start.

/end rant
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There, there. It's not your fault you feel that way.
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Katheryne Helendale
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07-06-2009 21:08
From: LittleMe Jewell
The only people that can be scammed this way are the fools that do not bother to read what they are clicking on. I have lost sympathy for the idiots that refuse to look out for themselves and want to blame everyone else for "what is done to them". The whole damn US has turned in to one big "let's put in all sorts of regulations and wave red flags everywhere to help the average person be more irresponsible". We really need to get back to a mode of just plain being responsible for our own actions -- and hell, online is as good a place as any to start..

This!
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07-06-2009 21:35
From: Pussycat Catnap
I've never seen anything in SL that could auto-charge me without a permissions popup. I'm stingy on group joining

then you missed out on the quicktime exploit that was (half-assed) patched....
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Katheryne Helendale
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07-06-2009 22:15
From: Void Singer
then you missed out on the quicktime exploit that was (half-assed) patched....
I hadn't heard of this exploit, but... Thank God for Linux! :p
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MoiselleErin Teardrop
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07-06-2009 22:48
Do some people just join groups quickly, the same way they hand out friendship requests?

I think I have like 4 groups and I have no idea what any of them are.
Thing is, I think there are as many groups as there are people in SL. Why would someone pay to join any one when there are tons for free?

SO, just like the real world, are people going to soon be charged for accepting friendship requests too?
treat Pick
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Join date: 19 Sep 2008
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07-06-2009 23:25
From: LittleMe Jewell
This sounds like when you landed, they automatically present the GROUP Join Blue Box. I just tested this with my alt and my group and it DOES show the fee in that blue box and you get an option of whether or not to join:



And if you click the "Accept" button, you then get a confirmation dialog box.

If you did not properly read that stuff, it is your fault. If you did, then file a support ticket with LL giving them all details.


it didnt confirm or notify that there's a group join fee its just like that typical blue pop up group join invite then i clicked join...anyway im done sending the group owner a notecard
treat Pick
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07-06-2009 23:31
From: Novis Dyrssen
Of course they do. Two weeks ago one of mine was actually acted upon within five minutes, so I have seen the results with my own eyes.



Because you whine here instead of doing the AR?


I dont have an AR in the pie menu :p
Novis Dyrssen
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07-07-2009 01:43
From: treat Pick
I dont have an AR in the pie menu :p


Christ on a bicycle, that is the most lame excuse ever! Help -> Report Abuse.
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treat Pick
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07-07-2009 02:32
From: Novis Dyrssen
Christ on a bicycle, that is the most lame excuse ever! Help -> Report Abuse.



hehe

/me hugz novis
Pserendipity Daniels
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07-07-2009 02:55
"May contain hot liquid"

Pep (Compulsory on all coffee cups?)
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treat Pick
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07-07-2009 03:05
From: LittleMe Jewell
The only people that can be scammed this way are the fools that do not bother to read what they are clicking on..


What if there's nothing to read on?
Viktoria Dovgal
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07-07-2009 03:29
From: treat Pick
What if there's nothing to read on?

The invite dialog always includes what the enrollment fee is (It will say "There is no cost to join this group" if there is no fee). It's a system-generated message.
Deira Llanfair
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07-07-2009 03:34
From: Starfire Desade
You really just need one group for that... your own.. then you can change the name of the owner's title to anything at any time.


Or, a personal hovertext script. There is a free copy one at my shop.
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Qie Niangao
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07-07-2009 04:27
The one thing that's a little insidious about this is that it does differentially target newbies, because pretty much only newbies have any free group slots. Those of us who would have to weigh the political symbolism of leaving any of our groups are accustomed to saying "no" to all such offers without even thinking about it--the join fee being the least of the disincentives. It's not as if we could just click "Join" and anything would actually happen.

Other than making the confirmation box orange and scary, I wouldn't know what could be done differently--and when all the confirmation boxes are orange and scary, none of them will scare anybody. For that matter, even the few that are there now aren't enough to scare some people, as witness the loss of land to bots and the granting of PERMISSION_DEBIT, despite dire warnings.
Clarissa Lowell
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07-07-2009 04:29
From: Pserendipity Daniels
"May contain hot liquid"

Pep (Compulsory on all coffee cups?)


See, that's where they go wrong.

They should have a pictogram of a person's tongue with flames shooting off it.
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Nic Writer
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07-07-2009 04:30
It's easy to say "Don't click on anything until you've read it" - but at least once I've read something, gone to click on it, and had another blue box slide down as I was clicking and get clicked instead. (Some goof was sending my alt repeated friendship requests.) No harm done, in that instance, but it wouldn't hurt to change the format of the group invite so it can't be accidentally clicked that way.

Off to scope out the jira previously mentioned.
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Clarissa Lowell
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07-07-2009 04:32
Yes I have also accidentally clicked on something because I was trying to click through a pile of annoying announcements/offers/teleport invites/what have you, and sometimes if something came in and sandwiched itself there briefly it got clicked on too.

That's how they get ya.

By the way, how do you tell if there is a fee for being in a group? I don't mean a join group fee, is there another fee, for being in a group - charges monthly or something?
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treat Pick
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07-07-2009 04:59
From: Viktoria Dovgal
The invite dialog always includes what the enrollment fee is (It will say "There is no cost to join this group" if there is no fee)
message.



I could have refused if when the enrollment fee was included but neither of that was written, the only words that was written on the invite dialog was Join group and below that was join or declined then i clicked join and thats when my 200L got deducted i imed and sent notecard to the group owner but maybe she cant understand me the only reply i got was hi and rent?
lol
Qie Niangao
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07-07-2009 05:14
From: treat Pick
I could have refused if when the enrollment fee was included but neither of that was written, the only words that was written on the invite dialog was Join group and below that was join or declined ...
It this is really how it happened using one of the LL viewers, then it's an exploit and deserves a jira in the SEC category. (I can almost imagine a way such a thing could be possible, maybe, *maybe*, so it would be worth investigating.)
Novis Dyrssen
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07-07-2009 08:27
From: treat Pick
/me hugz novis


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Colette Meiji
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07-07-2009 17:00
From: Novis Dyrssen
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-07-2009 17:38
From: treat Pick
it didnt confirm or notify that there's a group join fee its just like that typical blue pop up group join invite then i clicked join...anyway im done sending the group owner a notecard
Then log a support ticket. Even for 'no-fee' groups, after you click accept on the invite, I think you still get a confirmation window.
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-07-2009 17:39
From: treat Pick
What if there's nothing to read on?
Then for goodness sakes do not just go ahead and click Yes or Accept or anything of that sort.
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-07-2009 17:41
From: Qie Niangao
The one thing that's a little insidious about this is that it does differentially target newbies, because pretty much only newbies have any free group slots. Those of us who would have to weigh the political symbolism of leaving any of our groups are accustomed to saying "no" to all such offers without even thinking about it--the join fee being the least of the disincentives. It's not as if we could just click "Join" and anything would actually happen.
I do not have all 25 slots filled and I know a few folks that have been here over a year that also still have group slots available.

From: Qie Niangao
Other than making the confirmation box orange and scary, I wouldn't know what could be done differently--and when all the confirmation boxes are orange and scary, none of them will scare anybody. For that matter, even the few that are there now aren't enough to scare some people, as witness the loss of land to bots and the granting of PERMISSION_DEBIT, despite dire warnings.
Definitely !!!
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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
~Mark Twain~

Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
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