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what do you think if copybotters do this

Nicks Mint
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06-18-2009 18:51
if someone buy's a nice idk lets say Car. It was 2,000L, do you think if they copybot it and make it full perm. But make it so the creater still says orgional. And if they dont sell or give away. Do you think this should be still agents rules? and im talking keeping scripts unviewable still. But able to replace them.
Osprey Therian
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06-18-2009 18:53
I'm sorry someone is stealing your work, after all the hours you put into perfecting it. I'd be upset, too.
Nicks Mint
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06-18-2009 18:55
Yep same here. but they are not giving away or looking at scripts in what im talking about. And they bought the car not took. They just gave mod rights
Ava Velde
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06-18-2009 19:13
From: Osprey Therian
I'm sorry someone is stealing your work, after all the hours you put into perfecting it. I'd be upset, too.


Upset? Is that all can put into something when there should be more than a lame feeling??
Rhaorth Antonelli
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06-18-2009 19:42
From: Nicks Mint
if someone buy's a nice idk lets say Car. It was 2,000L, do you think if they copybot it and make it full perm. But make it so the creater still says orgional. And if they dont sell or give away. Do you think this should be still agents rules? and im talking keeping scripts unviewable still. But able to replace them.

If they are not giving it to anyone, or selling it, and just keeping it for themselves, how is that any different than using the car they purchased.

unless of course the said car is unmod, and they want to mod it, then maybe they should contact the creator to see if they can get a mod copy...
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Osprey Therian
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06-18-2009 20:00
From: Ava Velde
Upset? Is that all can put into something when there should be more than a lame feeling??


Pardon me? What are you saying?
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06-18-2009 20:32
From: Ava Velde
Upset? Is that all can put into something when there should be more than a lame feeling??


What do you expect to be said? It was a genuine expression of sentiment.

What should have been "put into" it?
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Ava Velde
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06-18-2009 21:18
From: Briana Dawson
What do you expect to be said? It was a genuine expression of sentiment.

What should have been "put into" it?



Now you blow all tears away with your "genuine expression of sentiment" ? :D

Was that ironic?

How about you show some Sl experience of - how to deal with content theft ?
Ralektra Breda
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06-18-2009 21:23
From: Nicks Mint
if someone buy's a nice idk lets say Car. It was 2,000L, do you think if they copybot it and make it full perm. But make it so the creater still says orgional. And if they dont sell or give away. Do you think this should be still agents rules? and im talking keeping scripts unviewable still. But able to replace them.


no, it's not ok. It isn't just the physical 'car' but the car's design, textures, etc. A creation on SL is like a work of art really. It is not ok to copybot something for your personal use. IMHO.
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06-18-2009 21:24
From: Ava Velde
Now you blow all tears away with your "genuine expression of sentiment" ? :D

Was that ironic?

How about you show some Sl experience of - how to deal with content theft ?


I've got experience of content theft. There isn't much one can do. You can express how you feel to the thief and hope for the best, but for almost all SL creators the stakes are far too low to attempt to collect compensation in a court. You'd very likely spend a hundred times what you had lost, and have time loss and stress on top of it.

Just to be clear, my original post was based on a reading of the OP that indicated he might be the one doing the copybotting.
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06-18-2009 21:29
You can't copybot scripts. At least that's how it was when I last heard about it.

But you should know that copybotting will get you banned if caught.
Ralektra Breda
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06-18-2009 21:40
From: Osprey Therian


Just to be clear, my original post was based on a reading of the OP that indicated he might be the one doing the copybotting.


I read it the same way.
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Ava Velde
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06-18-2009 21:44
From: Osprey Therian
I've got experience of content theft. There isn't much one can do. You can express how you feel to the thief and hope for the best, but for almost all SL creators the stakes are far too low to attempt to collect compensation in a court. You'd very likely spend a hundred times what you had lost, and have time loss and stress on top of it.


That was much more than just a feeling. Let me add some more- there is technically may absolute nothing to protect as all accounts are free without any protected registration. This will may change in future.

SO, it is easy to copy everything. I mean - E.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g! Even scripts! Yes copy this! The only way to protect the community - is - the community!

SecondLife will not die if you talk about it - make it public- make any copyboted item public by sending the AR. Make sure you include the screenshot and name the creator.

If the copyboted item shows the original creator name - inform this person too. Do not be afraid sending the AR to LL. Do NOT hide things. You need to AR the person. If there is no response, do not blame LL. They are working on things and not every AR need to be answered but it wont be useless.
Ralektra Breda
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06-18-2009 21:51
From: Ava Velde
That was much more than just a feeling. Let me add some more- there is technically may absolute nothing to protect as all accounts are free without any protected registration. This will may change in future.

SO, it is easy to copy everything. I mean - E.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g! Even scripts! Yes copy this! The only way to protect the community - is - the community!

SecondLife will not die if you talk about it - make it public- make any copyboted item public by sending the AR. Make sure you include the screenshot and name the creator.

If the copyboted item shows the original creator name - inform this person too. Do not be afraid sending the AR to LL. Do NOT hide things. You need to AR the person. If there is no response, do not blame LL. They are working on things and not every AR need to be answered but it wont be useless.


I'm not sure how much good an AR does. The original creator can file a DMCA.
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Ava Velde
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06-18-2009 22:03
From: Ralektra Breda
I'm not sure how much good an AR does. The original creator can file a DMCA.

Oh thats wise idea. See it in reality.

Are you talking about DMCA protection within the international law?
Pussycat Catnap
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06-18-2009 22:12
From: Ava Velde
Upset? Is that all can put into something when there should be more than a lame feeling??


Looks like google translate failed here. Not sure what the above means.

The original post almost looks like that person is the one using a copybot, trying to form an argument for legitimacy.
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06-18-2009 22:19
From: Pussycat Catnap
Looks like google translate failed here. Not sure what the above means.

The original post almost looks like that person is the one using a copybot, trying to form an argument for legitimacy.



How interesting is this. Now we have 3 peoples here telling ME that he may could be the one who is asking for something - just to get a better feeling like the real noobs asking for some griefing tools.


In fact! You have to answer the same. There is no difference in the question. So there is no other answer.
Mickey Vandeverre
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06-18-2009 22:31
4 people. It's just the way the question was worded....and the fact that he doesn't have any ads for products on his profile. And I was in a particularly nice mood today...which should have canceled out any skepticism.
Ava Velde
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06-18-2009 22:34
From: Mickey Vandeverre
4 people. It's just the way the question was worded....and the fact that he doesn't have any ads for products on his profile. And I was in a particularly nice mood today...which should have canceled out any skepticism.


So next fool to blame! Thats why the community helps and knows everything. In fact you dont know nothing-
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06-18-2009 22:34
Could we start this thread again in English?

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Ava Velde
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06-18-2009 22:35
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Could we start this thread again in English?

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06-18-2009 22:44
From: Ava Velde
So next fool to blame! Thats why the community helps and knows everything. In fact you dont know nothing-


sorry....I'm just not big on busting out the details until the skepticism wears off.....not on something like this. Surely the OP can understand that.

I also didn't think it appropriate to bust in and tell you that you were extremely rude....until you called everyone a fool.
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06-18-2009 22:46
From: Ava Velde
Ah Pep - you have been missed

Did you throw something at me, then? ;)

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06-18-2009 22:54
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Did you throw something at me, then? ;)

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06-18-2009 22:56
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