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richard Zhichao
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04-22-2009 08:19
Move On Over The Teen Grid Is Comin !!!!!!!
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Lias Leandros
mainlander
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04-22-2009 08:37
Linden Lab should accept proposals-only for folks that want to obtain land in the Mature grid. This will keep those 'real estate agents' from grabbing all of the land, cutting it and re-selling it at outrageous prices. If Linden Lab allows it to be a free-for-all then the small adult business owner will be shut out.
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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04-22-2009 08:38
I'm not sure why people are so for or so against this.... what does it really change? You can do all the same things you do now, but it will be in a specific area. That is my understanding of it anyway. _____________________
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Nimue Jewell
Unabashedly Leggy
Join date: 20 Mar 2007
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04-22-2009 08:46
Thousands of people spent hundreds or thousands of dollars for Mature land and hundreds or thousands of dollars in tier for years, and to "do all the same things [they] do now" they will have to spend tousands or tens of thousands of dollars to buy "Adult" land from Land Flippers. Has there been any more word about how and when one can apply for a land swap? Can anyone apply? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-22-2009 09:00
Has there been any more word about how and when one can apply for a land swap? Can anyone apply? However, if your business relies on Adult Content and would be negatively impacted, then there is nothing stopping you from submitting a ticket along with everyone else, explaining your need to move. We'll judge it on a case by case. When asked about non-business builds, he was all . It's like they think everything that isn't PG is "sex industry" with nothing in between._____________________
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Nimue Jewell
Unabashedly Leggy
Join date: 20 Mar 2007
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04-22-2009 09:08
Sure, but keep this in mind... this was Blondin's answer to a question about whether someone whose property was not CURRENTLY "naughty" was eligible for the move. When asked about non-business builds, he was all . It's like they think everything that isn't PG is professional porn.Oh, I wasn't looking to disagree with you. I was just genuinely asking. All the discussion I've seen has shifted to policy and I've missed any land talk if it continued. I asked Blondin similar questions inworld a few weeks ago and got the same type of answers. It seems he/they(LL) just can't imagine that the reason Mature land is the most popular is because it was the safest bet. It was the place to be if you wanted the freedom to do what you wanted, be it actually mature or not. Why as an adult would I pay for something with restricted usage when I can have something with unrestricted usage where I am free to decide what to do with it? Personally, I think that is why M land has always been in higher demand than PG, and I see no reason that Adult land shouldn't trend the same way. Blondin/LL seem to have a very different view. _____________________
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Piggie Paule
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Join date: 22 Jul 2008
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04-22-2009 09:09
Thanks for all the replies.
Not sure about American kids views, but being from the UK, I can tell you the most 100% certain way to get any place jam packed with kids, is to create and area full of things they are not supposed to see and tell them they are not supposed to go there. It's like waving a sausage in front of a starving dog and saying not to eat it! In saying that, I'm one of those who actually likes rules to some degree. Knowing I can buy a plot to call home, without fear someone will move in next door tomorrow with a bright orange and black sex disco lounge, causing the whole sim to lag. I'm still unsure about how they will police it. I guess they will depend on SL residents dropping other residents in trouble, by pointing out to Linden unsuitable items in a shop we visit. |
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Aeslyn Dae
over and out
Join date: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 453
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04-22-2009 09:09
Lot's. Onan on. Hm, so the long, long thread over at Further Conversation really was a complete farce, just as everyone thought it'd be. I hope they're paying that Blondin a good salary. From the NWN article: "I can tell you that [the company] is taking great care to avoid overzealous filtering," a Linden publicist sought to assure me." If they can't make a definition for what distinguishes adult from mature then how are the decisions going to be anything but arbitrary and vary from Linden to Linden? It'd have been SO much easier for EVERYONE including LL to make a PG, "No Sex Please We're Sensitive" continent and let everyone who wanted that much predictability self certify themselves and stay there. This way will cause chaos in every direction imaginable. -- Aes |
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Nimue Jewell
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Join date: 20 Mar 2007
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04-22-2009 09:13
It's like waving a sausage in front of a starving dog and saying not to eat it! Did you just compare adult content to sausage waving? ![]() _____________________
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sable Valentine
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Join date: 30 Apr 2006
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04-22-2009 09:14
Did you just compare adult content to sausage waving? ![]() /me waves back _____________________
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Infiniview Merit
The 100 Trillionth Cell
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 845
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04-22-2009 10:46
I suspect that there will be a greater demand for land on the adult continent than what they are
initially making allowances for. Especially for reasons that Nimue mentioned above. As it seems to have thrown all the currently "mature" regions into some kind of grey area. It would seem to me that lots of people would want land there just to be sure that they have rights to all available freedoms whether they choose to exercise them very often or not. Also since the AO regions have already been tagged a ghetto, many self respecting adult businesses will want to be on private islands and estates than risk the chaos that will be sure to reign on AO Mainland. On an entirely different matter, why does my paragraph formatting totally change when I hit the submit button? _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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04-22-2009 11:01
I suspect that there will be a greater demand for land on the adult continent than what they are initially making allowances for. Especially for reasons that Nimue mentioned above. As it seems to have thrown all the currently "mature" regions into some kind of grey area. It would seem to me that lots of people would want land there just to be sure that they have rights to all available freedoms whether they choose to exercise them very often or not. Also since the AO regions have already been tagged a ghetto, many self respecting adult businesses will want to be on private islands and estates than risk the chaos that will be sure to reign on AO Mainland. On an entirely different matter, why does my paragraph formatting totally change when I hit the submit button? The forums will fall undr new Adult guidelines as well. Hitting the "submit" button is interpreted as a BDSM reference. _____________________
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Aeslyn Dae
over and out
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04-22-2009 11:12
It's like waving a sausage in front of a starving dog and saying not to eat it! Did you just compare adult content to sausage waving? ![]() I user sniggered like Muttley. -- Aes |
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-22-2009 11:17
I user sniggered like Muttley. _____________________
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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04-22-2009 11:59
I suspect that there will be a greater demand for land on the adult continent than what they are initially making allowances for. Especially for reasons that Nimue mentioned above. As it seems to have thrown all the currently "mature" regions into some kind of grey area. It would seem to me that lots of people would want land there just to be sure that they have rights to all available freedoms whether they choose to exercise them very often or not. 2 questions if anyone knows... 1. Will people be able to do PG and mature on Ursula? 2. How do you get inline to get moved if you want to? |
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Lexxi Gynoid
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Join date: 6 Aug 2007
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04-22-2009 12:22
2 questions if anyone knows... 1. Will people be able to do PG and mature on Ursula? 2. How do you get inline to get moved if you want to? Sorry, I just started giggling insanely at work. "You wish to walk from the front of your house to the back? Wearing clothing? Without humping a woman (and/or man; preferably both)? Or violently shooting someone? No! Adult only! You must always be humping as you move while firing a gun! Even it if takes longer!" Ok, I couldn't convey it, but that is what flew through my mind. And made me giggle. Someone (LL) saying the quote above, not me saying it. heh. I'm fairly certain the only land sold on Urusla will be adult. I am also fairly certain that someone owning land there on Urusla will not be forced to put up pictures of naked women/men/shemales/etc. They will just be allowed to do so (along with adult activity). I could be wrong. Maybe my quote above is accurate, though was funny moment in head. Oh, and 2: I believe that you are supposed to make a support ticket to get your stuff looked at to see if you can be moved. Or something like that. _____________________
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Pserendipity Daniels
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Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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04-22-2009 12:36
WTF does this mean "The Adult guidelines, he answered, were "Not intended to cover Lady Chatterly's Lover?" Pep (cynical = realistic) _____________________
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Pserendipity Daniels
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04-22-2009 12:38
Lot's. Pep (They'll probably change their minds again Gomorrah) _____________________
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Kalderi Tomsen
Nomad Extraordinaire!
Join date: 10 May 2007
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04-22-2009 12:56
2 questions if anyone knows... 1. Will people be able to do PG and mature on Ursula? 2. How do you get inline to get moved if you want to? 2. they say you will need to submit a support ticket to request it, along with your making a case for needing the move. This is not yet in place. Hope this helps. _____________________
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Dekka Raymaker
thinking very hard
Join date: 4 Feb 2007
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04-22-2009 13:27
2 questions if anyone knows... 1. Will people be able to do PG and mature on Ursula? 2. How do you get inline to get moved if you want to? Well so far I disagree with the other comments here, surely mature activities that require parental guidance is exactly the kind of things that should just be hidden in the dark Ursula continent. If you mean can you have a store selling just PG items on Ursula then the answer has to be yes, although you could end up restricting your buying public, but if you rather not sell to people who find sex and dismemberment distasteful then Ursula would be a good place to have your store. If you want to be move to Ursula free of charge, from an existing Mainland plot, a week ago I would have said you would have to be in the 'flogging a dead horse' or 'shagging a sheep tied to a lamppost' industry, however now it seems if you just sell 'stolen cherries' you should be soon contacted by Censor Linden and direct to your new g-spot on Ursula |
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Brenda Connolly
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04-22-2009 13:31
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Darkness Anubis
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Join date: 14 Jun 2004
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04-22-2009 14:08
My concern in all this continues to be the reliance on residents sending ARs on residents.
And so we have the birth of the new griefing tactic... Resident: I wish that neighbor would move I want that land. Oh Look they have Gay cuddles on that cushion for sale. AR sent (even though the cuddles are PG they are also gay) VIctem: WTF did I just get suspended for? Screw this I will move. Resident: YAY I got the land I wanted. My point being LL does not have a good track record of doing any investigation of an AR at all. My other half received a suspension for spamming someone with a cube when 1. he cant script, 2. he hadn't been online in weeks, and 3. the real perps name was 1 letter off from his. Yep this ones gonna be as big a griefer tool as calling someone underage. |
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Pserendipity Daniels
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Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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04-22-2009 14:25
Didn't they hang him Pep (Not an ethnic joke) _____________________
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Viciously Llewellyn
Not Really Vicious ;-)
Join date: 27 Sep 2007
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04-22-2009 14:39
My concern in all this continues to be the reliance on residents sending ARs on residents. And so we have the birth of the new griefing tactic... Resident: I wish that neighbor would move I want that land. Oh Look they have Gay cuddles on that cushion for sale. AR sent (even though the cuddles are PG they are also gay) VIctem: WTF did I just get suspended for? Screw this I will move. Resident: YAY I got the land I wanted. My point being LL does not have a good track record of doing any investigation of an AR at all. My other half received a suspension for spamming someone with a cube when 1. he cant script, 2. he hadn't been online in weeks, and 3. the real perps name was 1 letter off from his. Yep this ones gonna be as big a griefer tool as calling someone underage. You hit the nail on the head with that one Darkness. I've been on that other thread asking these questions, and bringing up these sorts of points, again and again ... and have gotten zero response from the Lindens. Lets also not forget that this company, at one time crippled nearly all animations/scripts on PG sims to make them sex free. Hate to sound like I'm whining (even thought I am) but you know, they aren't offering free land swaps to PG folks. If they drastically screw up the "predictable experience" we currently have, we will end up with nothing. Amazing how fast The Lab can piss of even those that generally support them. ![]() |
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
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04-22-2009 14:53
Quote: 1. If you mean can you get land there that is not rated Adult, the answer will be "no". 2. they say you will need to submit a support ticket to request it, along with your making a case for needing the move. This is not yet in place. Hope this helps. Thank you. Well so far I disagree with the other comments here, surely mature activities that require parental guidance is exactly the kind of things that should just be hidden in the dark Ursula continent. If you mean can you have a store selling just PG items on Ursula then the answer has to be yes, although you could end up restricting your buying public, but if you rather not sell to people who find sex and dismemberment distasteful then Ursula would be a good place to have your store. If you want to be move to Ursula free of charge, from an existing Mainland plot, a week ago I would have said you would have to be in the 'flogging a dead horse' or 'shagging a sheep tied to a lamppost' industry, however now it seems if you just sell 'stolen cherries' you should be soon contacted by Censor Linden and direct to your new g-spot on Ursula Dekka: Yeh, I was asking, mainly cuz I like to take long breaks from binging in Adult stuff (which I dig when I am into it big time) and zone out by myself and learn building and hopefully scripting, I would ideally like a place like I own now, a very empty area with lots of trees, big views and fark all neighbors etc... but the freedom to do as I wish when I wish. Some how a picture is in my head of Ursula being very cramped and full tilt adult all over with no breaks or spaces to zone out... I am not really willing to spend on 2 separate properties. Over all though, I do want the most choice in my range of SL life and Adult seems to be it, but I am just so content with my SL set up as it is... |