PHASE II...what are the signs???
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Yosef Okelly
Mostly Harmless
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01-21-2008 14:53
Or could all this be because my meds were changed recently? Wow. We could be evil twins. I am also going through a new phase -- a redefinition period -- but am almost opposite of you. *I have cleared out friends list before. If it is people I hve not talked to in a long time, I just IM them what I am doing and why. Besides, we always have the notecards. *I have tried to become more social. Leaving the building/scripting for another time. *I have just joined the forums. I am an outsider but determined to make my way in. I am not part of a conflict as i don't even know if there are sides. *I spend my in world time either helping friends or at social places. *My humor has changed but is still there. I do not look for openings as much any more but I do love a good joke, even if it is at my expense (it has to be funny, tho). *I would like to think of myself as a giving person as well. However I am trying to find my sense of worth again. I seemed to have lost it along the way. A cog in the wheel? Maybe. But I am trying remember I am a single life in a sea of people. If you do decide to take a break, could you send some of that horde my way  You could play Warcraft for a while. For The HORDE!! Maybe you could find the joke I can not quite grasp concerning a retired escort. Oh, one more point of comparison. I do take anti-deps.
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Isablan Neva
Mystic
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01-21-2008 14:54
Like others have said - take a break. Time away does wonders. You will reinvent yourself dozens of times in SL - all of us who've been around more than a year have. We all grow and change, it's a natural cycle that moves at four times the normal speed in SL. Most of all, don't take this forum too seriously. We aren't exactly curing cancer here  Stop reading for a couple of days and you'll like it better.
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Egon Rothschild
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01-21-2008 15:06
From: Darien Caldwell Wow, you have encapsulated exactly what i've been feeling over the last few weeks. this must be the mid-winter blues. many of my friends are feeling fed-up with sl. i am too. but as has been said here, it's a cycle. stick it out. things will change. sl and you.
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Graphicguru Gustav
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01-21-2008 15:20
OMG! Yosep you just made me remember! I met a dancer/stripper at a club who after a long conversation with her, had confided in me what her RL age is...over 100 years old! I thought that was so cool that she is still going strong and enjoys what she does (I will not tell you here who she is or what club she works at... (off line maybe...if she agrees to meet you) I think you two would hit it off great! Just dont make jokes about her age...
And to all you who have posted so far (even the ones who feel I should find a padded cell) Thanks for your feedback...thanks sooooo much!
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
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01-21-2008 15:26
My remedy based on my personal experience feeling the same way: Tier down two levels and call me in the morning.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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01-21-2008 15:32
yes it happens happens to me all the time, I go through cycles
sometimes very social, other times not, sometimes want to walk away, other times build like mad, then comes the time I go delete crazy
right now I am sorta in a create but getting close to hide away mode
it is strange sometimes how much SL mirrors RL
just hang in there, it is like the weather, it will change
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Joseph Abel
Leaves no pawprints...
Join date: 20 Aug 2006
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01-21-2008 15:32
From: Graphicguru Gustav I suppose it is inevitable...like death and taxes. But when does one realize they are moving into phase two of their SL existence?
I seem to be going through some changes, and I don’t see them all as good; so I was hoping for some feedback: (yeah I am sure I left myself wide open to having my heart ripped out, but then again, this is the public forum):
*I am looking at deleting around half of my friends in my friends list. *I am looking at becoming less social and focusing more on building, sculptures and texturing. *I am becoming more and more disillusioned with the RA forum, and all the 'love' we feel for one another. *I am beginning to see the thinly veiled contempt that is expressed more and more here in the forums, and it makes me feel like an outsider, ignored, alienated, unwanted, unloved in a two sided battle on the part of the forum family... a battle I refuse to join in on. *I seem to be spending more and more time alone in world...not sure why, is it my own choice or do I have a disease? * I am not as prone to dishing out humor as readily as I was in the recent past, avoiding getting shot down or completely ignored. * I perceived myself as a very giving person with a lot to give, who is beginning to lose his sense of worth, feeling more and more like just another very tiny cog in the great picture of the SL universe. *And to top it all off, it is beginning to depress me... I need a good laugh.
Or could all this be because my meds were changed recently?
Has anyone else experienced any of these symptoms, and are any of them valid symptoms in the phase II question, or do I just need to be locked quietly away in a padded cell somewhere??? Graph - from what I've seen of a lot of people in SL (myself included), this is an all too common phenomenon...and it will change. My recommendation? Don't do anything rash...and even if you do, the people who really do care for you will understand and forgive your temporary psychosis... However, stepping away from the keyboard before typing anything you will possibly regret is a good choice... Something I've done in the past to help me break out of a rut is to take on a whole new shape for my AV, and just go randomly exploring...take a couple of days to do so... So, go get a dragon AV, or robot or crow or whatever...and go out and find some entirely new people...or things to do...
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
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01-21-2008 15:46
I took to SL from the start, although I've had a few faltering moments. In my first hour or two I wandered round Orientation Island thinking 'is this it'?'. But then I discovered the rest of the world, I discovered clothes and found a nice skin, improved my hair etc. Dance clubs, a bit of camping and exploring kept me going but it was when I learned to build and obtained a decent piece of land that my devotion to SL really took hold. I do get days when it all feels a bit 2 dimensional and I feel a bit like a cartoon character but it never really lasts. Just recently I've completed a home I really like - I think I feel settled now. But I've remained faithful to my original ambition when I joined SL - I am now what I set out to be in the beginning.
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Ricardo Harris
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01-21-2008 15:54
From: Graphicguru Gustav I suppose it is inevitable...like death and taxes. But when does one realize they are moving into phase two of their SL existence? From: someone
Have you been griefed? Have you had the urge to curse out every Linden in existence due to the condition sl is in? These are just two of the things required to move into phase2.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
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01-21-2008 16:34
From: Ricardo Harris Have you ben griefed? Have you had the urge to curse out every Linden in existence due to the condition sl is in? These are just two of the things required to move into phase2. I was *very* careful not to mention that teh Gri3fing often takes care of some SL blues. Very, very careful. It would be Unethical, and, Wrong to say that. NOT a thing any upstanding member of the community should say. Ever. Nope, Nosiree-Bob. NEVER tell a noob that FurNation is the 'hunting' part of the grid. NEVER, EVER give a fundamentalist a LM to a Gor sim for a 'bible study'... And Especially, NEVER log in as 'someone's jilted RL wife' - that is just, ooh, I can't even *begin* to tell you how socially erroneous that is.
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Claire Silverspar
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01-21-2008 16:37
From: Desmond Shang I was *very* careful not to mention that teh Gri3fing often takes care of some SL blues. Very, very careful. It would be Unethical, and, Wrong to say that. NOT a thing any upstanding member of the community should say. Ever. Nope, Nosiree-Bob. NEVER tell a noob that FurNation is the 'hunting' part of the grid. NEVER, EVER give a fundamentalist a LM to a Gor sim for a 'bible study'... And Especially, NEVER log in as 'someone's jilted RL wife' - that is just, ooh, I can't even *begin* to tell you how socially erroneous that is. HAHA, thats great! Unethical, but great! lol
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Incanus Merlin
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01-21-2008 16:40
Hi Graph Double plus good replies and advice from others already, so I won't repeat. My personal story for what it's worth.... This is my third SL persona. My very first spent a lot of time at adult clubs as per usual (where I met my partner and bless every minute for it), doing the normal - buying.. clothes, attachments, my first 512, then another, then another.... etc etc until I owned about a quarter of a mainland sim. At that point, I had yet to discover RA so much was trial and error, and I had clue none about texturing or indeed any sort of building/creating... I bought everything, including huge useless castles that so ate my prims I could never furnish them (I was still in the size matters mentality LOL). And I lacked any real purpose. I explored, sure, but it was a pointless hopping around the grid, just to see what was there, although I still recall how amazed I was when I first went to the Gardens of Apollo.. the quality just blew me away. Anyway, for reasons I won't go in to but involved a certain amount of drahmaz - which was my fault and almost caused me to leave SL - I ended up creating Inc. And with my partner Fatima, once we were settled, set out WITH a purpose. Which was, once I'd surprised her with her very own sim, to recoup a reasonable amount of tier from rentals. I never set out to make a profit on the deal or on the backs of any tenants; we just thought it would be great to have a place that others enjoyed so much they would like to live there. At this point we knew almost nothing about building and texturing, and certainly nothing at all about sim building. So we bought some more - houses etc - and set out our rental properties, and sat back and waited.. and waited... and waited..... eventually our first renter arrived, and soon we were pretty soon full. At this point we were starting to get into building and texturing, but of course all our prims were now being rented by others, so hey ho, another sim.... and so it went. We now have 8 sims, and perhaps a couple more before we're done. We LIKE the personal attention we can give to our residents and neither of us want to get so big that that becomes too much of issue and SL becomes a "job". But it goes in waves.. there are times when I think "what have I achieved today in SL?" and the answer is not very much - and certainly I could never compare my SL income/time ratio to my RL one. But I keep being drawn back, whether like today to just explore, or to help Fatima with texturing; it's still enjoyable and overall I love every minute. Of course there are down times, but I know they're just temporary. As to the RA forum - well, I tend only to post when I (think I) know the answer to a factual question; I read pretty much all of the posts and their replies, but I don't like to get drawn into long-winded opinion debates, although they often do make me think! Anyway, you and everyone else is always welcome to visit and play with our many toys Inc
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2k Suisei
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01-21-2008 16:47
From: Incanus Merlin Hi Graph Double plus good replies and advice from others already, so I won't repeat. Thank you!
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
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01-21-2008 17:51
I'm glad this thread is here, even though I haven't post in it until now.
Lately, I am either thoroughly bored with being in SL, or I am neutral, but I'm never 'up' these days. Right now, I'm just plain bored. I haven't wanted to socialise in a long time, I've never fancied exploring, I grew out of the 'romantic' side of things quite a long time ago, and I honestly don't know why I log in when I don't have to.
I can understand why there is such a large turnover of people, and I'm sure I would have turned over already had it not been for the business. This forum has sometimes produced some good bits for me since I started posting a few weeks ago. I do enjoy a good debate as long as they don't turn flamey, and I'm perfectly happy not to be agreed with, but there aren't many debates that I can get my teeth into. I really should be looking to do more in RL. There has been a huge imbalance since I registered with SL.
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Void Singer
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01-21-2008 18:01
welcome to life after the shine wears off, when the things that seemed new are revealed to be ages old with a thin sheen of cracking paint. you'll learn to focus on what you care about, and ignore the things that have no bearing for you... welcome to life after innocence =)
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Jezabell Barbosa
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01-21-2008 18:05
/me wonders what phase she is in /me thinks its the divorce phase
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Bree Giffen
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01-21-2008 18:39
Graph you have too many Thetans attached to you. Come in for some auditing.
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
Join date: 28 Sep 2006
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01-21-2008 21:25
From: Graphicguru Gustav I suppose it is inevitable...like death and taxes. But when does one realize they are moving into phase two of their SL existence?
I seem to be going through some changes, and I don’t see them all as good; so I was hoping for some feedback: (yeah I am sure I left myself wide open to having my heart ripped out, but then again, this is the public forum):
*I am looking at deleting around half of my friends in my friends list. *I am looking at becoming less social and focusing more on building, sculptures and texturing. *I am becoming more and more disillusioned with the RA forum, and all the 'love' we feel for one another. *I am beginning to see the thinly veiled contempt that is expressed more and more here in the forums, and it makes me feel like an outsider, ignored, alienated, unwanted, unloved in a two sided battle on the part of the forum family... a battle I refuse to join in on. *I seem to be spending more and more time alone in world...not sure why, is it my own choice or do I have a disease? * I am not as prone to dishing out humor as readily as I was in the recent past, avoiding getting shot down or completely ignored. * I perceived myself as a very giving person with a lot to give, who is beginning to lose his sense of worth, feeling more and more like just another very tiny cog in the great picture of the SL universe. *And to top it all off, it is beginning to depress me... I need a good laugh.
Or could all this be because my meds were changed recently?
Has anyone else experienced any of these symptoms, and are any of them valid symptoms in the phase II question, or do I just need to be locked quietly away in a padded cell somewhere??? No, you are feeling the same as several of us here in Resident Answers. It happens in all forums, whether it's here or SLEX forums or SLUniverse forums... a clicky "In crowd" will always develop and you're either in or out. I have long since felt that ,but it doesn't bother me too much as i have a fairly large SL family inworld for friendship and comarade. It depends what you're looking for on this particular forum, is it for information or striking up friendships or networking? I use it for information and focus on topics effecting my daily life in SL (performance issues, camping, banks, VAT, scamming, land etc etc)...so invariably those are the type of topics i read and might contribute to. I do find it frustrating when your take time to construct a message relating to the topic...and it gets effectively passed over without not so much as an acknowledgement or reply comment or even disagreed upon...and by the same breadth someone in the close facinity will have posted "...passes the popcorn over" or some shit like that and it draws a string of related replies. It's at that very point when you realise you're not hip enough -lol! Cela vie Unless you're prepared to camp here and notch up your post count, it's likely you'll always be on the fringe. I for one don't have the time as i run several different types of businesses in-world which requires attention. I like to escape SL every now and again to this forum for some light relief and read various topics of interest. Another gripe about this particular forum relates to those "EstateOwner stole my land or money" type threads. You just know where its going to end up. Invariably becomes a self serving advertisment to the same half dozen or so Estates barons of which some are RA participants ......"i would only rent land from reputable estate owners X,Y or Z". You might as well stick a banner advertisment up on the Resident Answers home page "Only rent land from these reputable Estate Owners..." In reality this is total poppycock!.....there are many reputable Estate Owners within SL who provide a great service to their residents and i would include myself as one of them! Many are low profile and their names are not widely publicise nor venture onto these forums. It gets a bit frustrating when this forum gets used as a marketing tool. Anyway rant over......overall i enjoy reading this forum with lots of smart & savvy people contributing towards it.
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
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01-21-2008 21:47
Careful Graph. You sound like how I felt until I accepted that I no longer give a stuff that I don't actually belong here because I have my own SL which has nothing at all to do with RA or a lot of the people on it.
I like my leper colony though. The people who came to see me on it are immune to the disease it appears (cos they are happy enough). Or perhaps I am actually in recovery from some sort of delusion cos most of them have managed to dodge shrapnel and are also living a Second Life they enjoy.
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
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01-21-2008 21:50
From: Desmond Shang I was *very* careful not to mention that teh Gri3fing often takes care of some SL blues. Very, very careful. It would be Unethical, and, Wrong to say that. NOT a thing any upstanding member of the community should say. Ever. Nope, Nosiree-Bob. NEVER tell a noob that FurNation is the 'hunting' part of the grid. NEVER, EVER give a fundamentalist a LM to a Gor sim for a 'bible study'... And Especially, NEVER log in as 'someone's jilted RL wife' - that is just, ooh, I can't even *begin* to tell you how socially erroneous that is. You are a very very bad man Desmond, with a very good and solid get out clause  I love the second one especially.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
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01-21-2008 22:07
From: Rene Erlanger Another gripe about this particular forum relates to those "EstateOwner stole my land or money" type threads. You just know where its going to end up. Invariably becomes a self serving advertisment to the same half dozen or so Estates barons of which some are RA participants ......"i would only rent land from reputable estate owners X,Y or Z". You might as well stick a banner advertisment up on the Resident Answers home page "Only rent land from these reputable Estate Owners..." In reality this is total poppycock!.....there are many reputable Estate Owners within SL who provide a great service to their residents and i would include myself as one of them! Many are low profile and their names are not widely publicise nor venture onto these forums. It gets a bit frustrating when this forum gets used as a marketing tool. I absolutely agree there are many, many reputable estate owners on the grid, most of them relatively unknown. It's a tough call to reply to some of these threads. I do, however. Why? Because I honestly think I can shed some light on some things, help people, understand what's going on myself, and clear some air. Yep, provide a Resident Answer. Just like you did, just now, defending small estate owners. In a thread that has nothing even remotely to do with land. Hey, that's great though - it's a good cause and 100% correct in my estimation. * * * * * With regard to advertising - I don't need advertising. Really. I've run a waiting list since early 2006. That's nearly two years. Please pardon the comment, but if I had to wager I'd say that waiting list will last right through my last 5 regions, after which demand will probably go screaming high. Making the list *longer*. Prospective Renters: I have no new land right now. I don't even have existing land. We are more full than a Nevada cathouse on Saturday night during the trucker's convention. It is a ridiculously. long. wait. You could probably buy World of Warcraft, start a clan and raise a noob army up to level 58 before you could rez a prim in Caledon. Go Away! (There. That should be clear enough) ~ * ~ Ms Cherry - I'm not bad! Oh no. I handle the pressure of dealing with zillions of residents just fine... really... I just bottle it up and it's all good! Not even a nervous tic... and I'd *Never* find such an outlet like... *gasp!* griefing. Shocking, I tell you...
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Cherry Czervik
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01-21-2008 22:34
/me just chuckles
I find wearing something stupid helps. I haven't worn my oven lately and offered to bake pies (this was circa March 2006 I think that I last did that ...)
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
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01-21-2008 22:58
Actually Desmond, my comment wasn't aimed at you.  I know you run a great Estate and I've visited the Caledon region many many times......it's one of my favourite set of sims. I once ran into you in Victoria City as a Noob, you were very welcoming and patient with me. You even told me where to get free textures from- Victorian ones i believe....I still have them.! Had I not owned my own sims, Caledon would have been the type of place i'd liked to have lived on! OMG i'm advertising your estate! ...................actually I meant the above. PS i wasn't only defending small estate owners, some like Fairchang Estates and Sana Barbara Estates are very large and probably similar sized operation like yourself.
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
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01-21-2008 23:14
From: Rene Erlanger Another gripe about this particular forum relates to those "EstateOwner stole my land or money" type threads. You just know where its going to end up. Invariably becomes a self serving advertisment to the same half dozen or so Estates barons of which some are RA participants ......"i would only rent land from reputable estate owners X,Y or Z". You might as well stick a banner advertisment up on the Resident Answers home page "Only rent land from these reputable Estate Owners..." In reality this is total poppycock!.....there are many reputable Estate Owners within SL who provide a great service to their residents and i would include myself as one of them! Many are low profile and their names are not widely publicise nor venture onto these forums. It gets a bit frustrating when this forum gets used as a marketing tool. I am guilty of making lists in the past of reputable estate owners but I never said "only" rent from these owners, just that they could be trusted. The reason I did it was twofold: I wanted to help keep people from getting burned and I wanted the hard-working owners I know to have continued success. But no one ever asked me to name them, so although someone was using the forum for a marketing tool, it wasn't the owners themselves. I've since stopped naming specific folks here because it excludes too many honest and excellent people.
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Rene Erlanger
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01-22-2008 06:11
Yes, unfortunately you were the chief culprit  Never mind....we live and learn!
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