What % of women landing & propositioning other women are actually SGTWOH?

Of course the military (in more than one nation, no doubt) are working on creating Turing-test-passable AI, and they might well try to test it in SL.

It's possible that one of the tests would be 'can it consistently seduce human-run avatars'?

But, prolly not.

/me avoids bringing up "Real Dolls."

Not to mention that Japanese walking bride-robot....

Oh I haven't seen that story yet. Link?

AI is kind of interesting. I am sure it won't be long before something like in the film "Mumford" exists.

Too easy.

LOL it isn't that hard to 'seduce' most avs...Hello is all most require, to proposition someone.

This reminds me of something that has been true in my limited experience: a surprisingly large number of my male SL friends have been very eager to let me know their RL info -- name, email, even location. My female inworld friends are generally as reticent about RL info as I am.

I've always hesitated to extrapolate anything from this little oddity!
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What I'd extrapolate automatically would refer to my RL experience that males are not brought up to fear certain things in the same way females are. And/or that they have not experienced being stalked or harassed or had the level of unwanted, negative attention in general that most women have had.

A wall goes up at a certain point, naturally. And I see nothing wrong in it either, before anyone posts that it isn't necessary or is somehow dysfunctional. It's called a healthy boundary.

For most of us, women, it is second nature to park under a street light, park closer, walk with keys in your hand, etc. Sadly, it's a fact of life.

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Well, I have a female av and she has never worked the strip clubs or sex scene.

SL is a fantasy and personally I dont give a monkey if someone is gender true or not in SL, or for that matter a fae, furry, dragon, gor or tens of other things that dont exist IRL. *


Its a game, nothing more.






* Probably dont exist IRL. Ive known a few dragons.

*stamps feet and shakes fist, considers a full blown tantrum*


No fair........ nobody every just pops in out of the blue and propositions me. To save my ego, I'll simply tell myself that I must be building in a really out of the way spot.

We don't get sweaty when doing that and with all the cool toys these days, I can still use both hands to type.

Possibly, my place was right next to the Lost Creatures sandbox at the time.

(sorry for the delay; I was in a feverish building fugue....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G7RpeGD2iI

It goes the other way too. Interestingly (to me), the woman I know who is the most paranoid that the woman she gets involved with is actually a man has been fooled twice.

By "fooled" I mean had a relationship that lasted nearly a year and ended when the woman said, "Sorry I can't do this anymore. And btw, I'm a man."

I take avatars at face value unless they do something to MAKE me do otherwise. If a person is weird, it doesn't matter which gender they're presenting. If someone comes on to you, and they make you uncomfortable, it doesn't matter which gender they are in RL. If they are too much, would it somehow make it alright if the female avatar was really a woman in RL? I don't think so.



Hey, me neither! (And thank God!)



Ditto.



I have asked this question. Once I asked a shemale why she didn't just go all the way and have a female avatar. She said, "Sincerity."

Yikes.

I dunno...I go back and forth in my thinking about the necessity to volunteer information about oneself in on-line relationships. What is deception, and what is merely a wish to be appreciated for one's character instead of for one's demographic traits?

I do think, however, that explicitly saying "I'm a woman" when one is NOT a woman (or vice-versa) is unrelievedly wrong and bad. I mean: that's flat-out lying. Uncool.




Oh, I agree completely.




I agree with this, too.

But in addition to that, there's the question of deliberate deception that ISN'T connected with overtly creepy aggression.

but if we look at this upside down for a second: what is it about finishing that building which requires you to be all sexed up while you do it? Why not slip into a Homer Simpson lookalike av, and get the work done?

Jessica Rabbit it was who said "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" - the whole point of SL is that you get to choose how you are "drawn" and people are free to react to that as they see fit. Don't want guys in drag bugging you? Dress down. Whiney comments about how they shouldn't be that way are (as we scholars of old english say) a sign that you are a bit of a cnut. As in, the king.

Wow, Gummi.

Because Ponsonby doesn't change herself to avoid being harassed, SHE is the baddie?

Wow.

This.

My women friends who DO give in, and surrender RL information early on in a relationship frighten me terribly: how sad -- and dangerous -- is it to feel the need to be "wanted" so badly that you would imperil yourself this way? One of the things that the SLLUFN's Survival Kit for Newbie Women makes very clear: you are always at least relatively safe in SL if you guard your RL identity. And sometimes a simple slip can be all it takes: in one of the stalker cases I talked about earlier in this thread, a friend (and a pretty smart one too) inadvertently released her RL name to a guy who later stalked her in SL because she forgot that it was attached to her e-mail address.

It also may have something to do with socially conditioned sexual aggression? I've been hit on by both men and women, but I have yet to have a woman ask for RL pics, which males will sometimes do within minutes of striking up an apparently innocent conversation. I have also NEVER been sent unsolicited in-world snaps of genitals by a female, whereas I am building up a small photo album of "samples" that have been sent unasked by overanxious males ...

I'm not "all sexed up", I'm just me looking the way I look. If that makes me a really cute buck (or doe) that's what I look like. I don't look like Homer Simpson. I look like this:

I join Clarissa in saying 'wow'.

For the record, I was wearing (yesterday) what I'm wearing in this snap just taken today to illustrate a new product I've posted on XStreet:



This is scarcely a hoochie-mama, come-hither look.

But as for your suggestion that anyone wearing something other than a Homer Simpson avatar should consider themselves to be "all sexed up": that is ludicrous.

Yeah, I wrinkled my eyebrows at that one too. That old "she was askin for it" excuse keeps coming back up for air in a slightly different shape every time you think it's been drowned for good and take your foot off its head

That sounds like a recipe for depression.

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You iz the HAWT and therefore asking to be propositioned.

A very close friend of mine, a very smart woman in a very high profile and demanding profession made a similar slip to someone in an online social venue several years ago, and it almost cost her her life. Like many of us in SL, she was using it to explore other aspects of her personality, including some of the darker and edgier ones. The threat is real, and it is more common than many wish to acknowldge.

I have disagreed with a lot of what you have espoused in this forum in terms of what your group is about, but if you can enlighten as many women to this as possible through it, I thank you.