What % of women landing & propositioning other women are actually SGTWOH?

Ponsonby - I never did hear back from you after I spent an hour doing that assignment for you.

What assignment?

LOL

Ok. Who is Rebecca Ore? Ursula Le Guin I know. And Jeanette Winterson has done a few things ...

So tell me.

Well, notice that no one had talked about female SF writers as such; instead, someone had listed some highly regarded female writers that would probably be classified as 'mainstream', and someone else (me) had noted that two on the list HAD published some SF, and that these works might be know to the SF-loving denizens of the Forums.

So, tell us about Rebecca Ore. I've heard of "Becoming Alien" but regret to say I haven't read it, or her other books. Which do you recommend most highly?

The "Alien" series, _Becoming Alien_, _Being Alien_, and _Human to Human_. I need to re-read them, if I can find a copy.

Yeah, but . . . I found out that much on Wikipedia. (Well, not the part about you needing to re-read them.)

What makes 'em good?

Don't ferrets chew books?

They were the first books I read where the aliens were alien, but comprehensible. Not simply doing weird stuff for unexplained reasons, but as a result of their environment and biology.

That's why I need to get another copy.

The Illegal Rebirth of Billy the Kid and Times Child were a lot of fun, but didn't really have that kind of impact on me. I haven't located the books in the middle, between those two.

I agree with you, and maybe my post just muddled my point there.

Frankly, everyone has their own reasons, and its not my business to make assumptions about them.




Yeah. Every online community has its share of morons. But most of them also have corners where like minded morons can gather and laugh at the other morons.
- so far, I've been pretty good about finding like minded morons to hang out with.

I dunno. I think 'newbie women' may be even more susceptible to being manipulated/feeling peer pressure since they may wish badly to fit in, and may be persuaded 'everyone does it' a bit easier.

I always grit my teeth when I see in someone's profile that anyone who won't give real life information "is hiding something." How manipulative can someone get?

I also have to laugh a bit when a guy says "well I'll offer mine" - just not the same at all, really, is it? (I know you were talking about voice but RL info is part of the 'please baby baby please' schtick, too.)

True enough about people wanting to fit in. And how many newcomers to SL would guess that the system is, by default, designed to enable the ill-intentioned to exploit them?

And, yeah: the classic "confidence" trick is to convince people that they have to prove themselves to be Brave and Adventurous and Willing To Trust, as proof that they are worthy and admirable people. "Hey, baby, I gave you MY password....what's wrong, are you an insecure, repressed person, or what?" .

Exactly!

And it holds very powerful sway especially among the polite or people who wish to please or be liked/accepted.

LOL !

Umm . . .

(/me makes note to self to add Argent to the ban list for her bookstore ...)

I always wonder what "Snickers" sounds like on first blush to others...

Clearly no one takes a candy bar seriously.

For once Pep has a valid point. Without a body, there is no rape. 'Virtual rape' is a contradiction in terms, and to argue that it exists makes you sound as crazy as those ultra-feminists who think that a man looking at a woman the wrong way constitutes a sexual assault. We may as well go the whole hog and make 'almost rape' an offence. Feminists would like that; if a man stops when the woman says no it would be too late, the offence has already been committed - off to jail with you.

You think you got it bad

Pie is serious stuff!

Conan has once again quoted in the post above (three above actually - #240) your mention of "depictions of rape", which is the reference that you demanded of me and I provided. See post #192 for the juxtaposition) Yes, it was *you* that mentioned "depictions" which is what I commented upon to your dismay, and to which I subsequently referred in a disparaging sense because you appeared unable to remember posting it, or even able to read it again when I referenced it. You should be a politician if you can forget so quickly and claim that it didn't happen when the proof is there for all to see.

Pep (You should join the "Denial is just a river in Egypt" group; there are quite a few other over-emotional, over-reactive and illogical illiterates like you in it already. )

I try to ignore all female SF writers.

Pep (Chicklit with even more fantasy than normal attached.)

A candy bar.

Not this side of the Atlantic.

Pep (More like the response by a criminal to a WPC telling him that anything he says will be taken down in evidence. )

True. That would be me, and I haz a dude ava. I'm so pretty that more than one guy so wants me to be a girl RL

I don't voice. I'm just not interested in hearing people munching on breakfast cereal, sucking beer or getting yelled at by their much better halves. I will turn it on for tutors and DJs, provided that they're not drunk or wack and even then I wont mic.
Any rock goddess as well. Pink does it for me personally, Otep as well.

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When it comes to avatars then as far as I'm concerned, girl is girl, boy is boy. What I see is all there is and I relate accordingly. And animals get woofed at

But then I don't shag even if I am an outrageous flirt at times. Nor do I do relationships as I haz one of them for real so yeah that too.

Although, this said, I don't think there is anything wrong with any guy having a good wank with the help of someone or something else. Magazine, video, 3D animation... spot the difference. Not a lot of difference, at least for most guys I know. Its just ooo! babeh !!! and all that and no biggie really at all as the outcome is the same. A big smile and feck I'm hungry now but nothing that a beer or cigarette can't fix

FWIW, I think that RL guys with girl avatars wanking themselves is more normal than RL guys wanking themselves over their guy avatar doing stuff. Its a "Barbie or Ken Moment". Personally I find the Ken syndrome really weird when its coupled with the sneering "u is gay" comment sometimes aimed inworld at gurl avatars. Yeah right! Kenny !!! You handsome adorable hunky manthing you. Tell me again how much you spent on your gorgeous manly avatar?, and umm! who are you looking at when you're cybering with a female avatar

Is a lot like Eddie Izzard's wonderful "Cake or Death ???" Umm! Cake please

What is "not this side of the Atlantic"? You didn't quote anyone so I'm going to assume you are replying to "candy bar". I saw the snickers candy bar for sale when I was in England.

I was answering the question "what does Snickers make you think of?". Anybody over the age of 18 in the UK is unlikely to think of a "candy bar" (if we ever thought "candy bar" - we don't use the phrase) by that name because it used to be called 'Marathon'

Pep (and there is a movement to change the name back as well.)

Yes, you can find Snickers candy bars in the UK - but generally that word is a sort of nasty laugh someone gives when hearing a lewd joke or something that has a double meaning like the WPC saying "taken down".