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Annabelle Babii
Unholier than thou
Join date: 2 Jun 2007
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11-17-2007 10:30
No. prim limits are per sim, no matter what. This is because of how a sim is set up on the grid... a single server ahs maybe two (guessing) sims on it, and can only emulate so many prims. These sims are probably *not* next to each other. So, they cannot share, and every sim is given a max limit of 15000 Actually, servers are quad-core processors, one sim per core. *edit: YW |
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-17-2007 10:48
Actually, servers are quad-core processors, one sim per core. cool so four then... wasn't sure, thanks ^^ _____________________
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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11-17-2007 11:01
My pre-apocalyptic utopian sim is fully landscaped and decorated. I've got 5000 prims to spare even with the rainforest club build I just rezzed. I guess things are less primmy prior to the End of Days. We've got someting like 7k left in Livingtree, an dat's with a lot of what we'd call "wasted prims" an little detail items that aren't all dat necessary. Certainly there was to be some room for prim reduction, like others have mentioned. Mari _____________________
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 15,028
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11-17-2007 11:20
buy an adjoining sim, stretch it out among the two, and keep expanding.
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Ricardo Harris
Registered User
Join date: 1 Apr 2006
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11-17-2007 11:32
There always items you can do without or that can be replaced by lesser prims items of the same type.
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Maelstrom Janus
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Join date: 4 Jul 2007
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11-17-2007 11:44
There always items you can do without or that can be replaced by lesser prims items of the same type. yes but it really deprives a place of those detailed touches..its no wonder really that so much of sl looks incomplete or full of flat 'cardboard box' houses...... I hated having to remove a superb rope barrier and a baslt causeway which had been acting as my stairway to my home because they were great 'finishing touches. Maybe lindens could give a 'beautifying prim grant' if the look of an area is greatly improved  _____________________
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Elgyfu Wishbringer
The Pootler
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 659
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11-17-2007 11:46
If your renters find out you have rented out prims you don't actually have spare, you are going to get some back lash
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Annabelle Babii
Unholier than thou
Join date: 2 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,797
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11-17-2007 12:53
Particles don't count as prims.
any effect that is currently handled by prims that could be accomplished with particles should be looked at. |
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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11-17-2007 14:34
Few things you can do that most people don't consider....aside from megas which I personally hate If you have a corner of just about anything that is a right angle and doesn't need to have any actual holes or anything, use a hollowed and cut box. Simlarly, you can do the same thing for wall/ceiling combinations. THats really simple..and can help a lot actually... Aside from that, go around and look at every single object.. and make it simpler. One way that I saved prims just recently, I had tea tables that people were to sit on the floor behind, crosslegged.... so instead of using poseballs (Which I hate anyway) and doubling the prim count for that area, I used a modified poseball script that placed the sitting avatar on the floor behind it, and used rotation in the script to make them facing the correct direction... And of course, in the case of your 25 prim barstool and 5 prim beer.... make them with sculpties!!! They will save you tons of prims, and if you're good enough you can actually get it better looking than normal prims. And. lastly.. evict some renters. If you don't have the prims to allow them, you shouldn't have them in the first place buddy. QFT. Not every detail needs to be a prim - use textures, and think about using prims more creatively. _____________________
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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11-17-2007 15:41
I think the 30,000 prims bit is because besides the 15,000prims in your build people walk in wearing 100 prim shoes, 200 prin hair, posibly 1000 prims in an AV, so assuming 500 prims per AV that would only be 20 people in the sim before it crashed, so for 100 AV's they would have to only have 150 prims each on average.
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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11-17-2007 16:35
If your renters find out you have rented out prims you don't actually have spare, you are going to get some back lash Well, I'd be pretty annoyed at that..... *waves* Hi Elgyfu!  _____________________
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Dytska Vieria
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Join date: 13 Dec 2006
Posts: 768
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11-17-2007 17:33
You did not run out of prims, you ran out of sims! So, buy another one and expand, spread things out, introduce more vegitation and you shall not have such problems.
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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11-17-2007 17:40
No, word is that he needs to learn to build more efficiently. He apparently builds the same way he posts in this forum - thinks that a brand new but needless prim is the only solution to achieving his ends.
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
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11-17-2007 17:45
Your donation box is 18 prims. You have two-story building facades less than 20 m wide made up of over 80 prims. You have abandoned cars all over the sim averaging 25 prims apiece. Another sim is not the answer. You need to learn more efficient building.
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Chaos Bikcin
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Join date: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 296
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11-17-2007 18:07
Your donation box is 18 prims. You have two-story building facades less than 20 m wide made up of over 80 prims. You have abandoned cars all over the sim averaging 25 prims apiece. Another sim is not the answer. You need to learn more efficient building. thats because i dont want it 2 look flat, crappy and out of date _____________________
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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11-17-2007 18:10
thats because i dont want it 2 look flat, crappy and out of date FFS, then, you need to spread out and buy/rent another sim, because you can't deal with reality. You can't have your cake and eat it. Either make more sophisticated textures for these items, make sculpties, or scale back. There is no talk of expanding prim limits - sim performance is already problematic as is. _____________________
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Ann Launay
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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11-17-2007 18:21
thats because i dont want it 2 look flat, crappy and out of date Interestingly, I just tp'd to several of my favorite builds in SL and they all somehow managed to stay under 15,000 prims and still be amazing. _____________________
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Okiphia Rayna
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Join date: 22 Sep 2007
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11-17-2007 18:24
Interestingly, I just tp'd to several of my favorite builds in SL and they all somehow managed to stay under 15,000 prims and still be amazing. All of my favorite places are a single sim, and seem to do it well too ^^ Chaos, there are some amazing builds with one single sim. You really do just need to learn to build efficiently. 18 prim donation box? Thats quite simply put.. stupid. At least in my opinion. A 2 prim one is often overdoing it. 80 prims for something so small? Dude.. you really need to work on your building skills. I don't mean the detailing, I mean simplifying something without loss in quality. Use better textures, use sculpties, use prim torture to do some things... quite simply.. learn to build efficiently. _____________________
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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11-17-2007 18:28
thats because i dont want it 2 look flat, crappy and out of date Go visit Suffugium. Post-apocalyptic dystopian and looking great. _____________________
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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11-17-2007 19:03
You need to learn how to make sculpted prims, period. The Donation box could have been 1 prim if you built it as a sculpty. FFS.
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
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11-17-2007 19:10
I have allready gone around and cut back as far as i can (even more in some areas), i have many renters now who havnt reached there prim limits, but if everyone now tried we'd run out again (we have about 200 left) i cant delete any more of the city. what would u do in this situation? what do u sugest i do? Chaos, in another thread you are crying about being scammed and cheated. But here you are admitting to committing fraud against your renters by promising them prims that you do not have. Are you offering full refunds to your renters? Prorated? _____________________
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Ava Glasgow
Hippie surfer chick
Join date: 27 Jan 2007
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11-17-2007 19:27
I don't understand how it is that someone claiming to be a professional game designer has no concept of (a) working within the constraints of the system, and (b) planning. Many of my friends are software engineers or game designers (I grew up in Silicon Valley), and from my conversations with them it is obvious that the normal design process STARTS with a clear understanding of the system constraints they will be dealing with.
To the OP, I think it's time to face that you have not yet learned how to build WELL in Second Life. I recommend taking the time to study proper SL building techniques, with a focus on primficiency. I also recommend some outside education in the basics of project management. Proper planning before you start a major project will save you time and energy in the long run, and prevent problems like your current one where you have promised your clients more than you can deliver. |
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Brenda Connolly
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11-17-2007 19:31
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Chaos Bikcin
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Join date: 10 Jun 2007
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11-17-2007 19:58
Chaos, in another thread you are crying about being scammed and cheated. But here you are admitting to committing fraud against your renters by promising them prims that you do not have. Are you offering full refunds to your renters? Prorated? i have cleared some and made sure that it hasnt actually hit the prim limit i will make sure my renters have there shara of the prims, might be a close shave tho _____________________
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Chaos Bikcin
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Join date: 10 Jun 2007
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11-17-2007 19:59
I don't understand how it is that someone claiming to be a professional game designer has no concept of (a) working within the constraints of the system, and (b) planning. Many of my friends are software engineers or game designers (I grew up in Silicon Valley), and from my conversations with them it is obvious that the normal design process STARTS with a clear understanding of the system constraints they will be dealing with. To the OP, I think it's time to face that you have not yet learned how to build WELL in Second Life. I recommend taking the time to study proper SL building techniques, with a focus on primficiency. I also recommend some outside education in the basics of project management. Proper planning before you start a major project will save you time and energy in the long run, and prevent problems like your current one where you have promised your clients more than you can deliver. because u know aswell as i do that prims seem to go faster than u think, i did have a plan but the prims had other ideas _____________________
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