So, apparently all Combat areas are to be rated "Adult" now?
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Ceera Murakami
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06-02-2009 09:13
Reading the new "final" rules on Adult content, it appears that all Combat areas are to be rated "Adult" now? From: someone Any Region must be designated Adult and therefore require account verification, if it advertises or publicly promotes the following:
Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic (for example, depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm) Shooting guns or arrows or hacking someone to bits with swords or axes with the intent of "killing" your opponents and causing their "death" would seem to absolutely require being in an Adult rated sim now. I see no exceptions. Death is death.
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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06-02-2009 09:15
From: Ceera Murakami Reading the new "final" rules on Adult content, it appears that all Combat areas are to be rated "Adult" now?
Shooting guns or arrows or hacking someone to bits with swords or axes with the intent of "killing" your opponents and causing their "death" would seem to absolutely require being in an Adult rated sim now. I see no exceptions. Death is death. This will surely spell the end of griefer "armies" running around shooting everyone with guns!
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Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2009 09:19
me thinks they better start building some more Adult Continents
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Ian Nider
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06-02-2009 09:24
From: Brenda Connolly me thinks they better start building some more Adult Continents They have, you can see them when you touch in a slurl image under Ursula's 250 odd sims go up to around 450, they are just all ocean looking still.
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Ralektra Breda
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06-02-2009 10:46
From: Elanthius Flagstaff This will surely spell the end of griefer "armies" running around shooting everyone with guns! when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns 
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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06-02-2009 10:54
I think most of the big RP groups have thier own islands, so it will be a matter of setting them to adult.
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Eli Schlegal
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06-02-2009 10:55
Grey goo doesn't kill avatars... avatars kill avatars.
(or something like that.)
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Eli Schlegal
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06-02-2009 10:56
From: Whimsycallie Pegler I think most of the big RP groups have thier own islands, so it will be a matter of setting them to adult. And losing most of their players because they are not age verified. |
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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06-02-2009 11:00
From: Eli Schlegal And losing most of their players because they are not age verified. Yep, the more I think about it the more I am starting to join the camp that this is SLs way of making people put payment info on file. Make em pay to do anything really really fun or a bit different. |
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Sling Trebuchet
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06-02-2009 11:03
Combat using the Gorean Meter should be safe from Adulthood so.
With the GM, you can virtually 'damage' someone by registering hits on their meter. If you register enough, they become captured.
You can never 'kill' someone via the use of weapons.
It is possible to click a 'Kill' option in the menu when you click the bubble they become enclosed in. It's extremely unusual to do so.
A place that uses the GM system without the sex/nudity that often forms part of the Gorean RP should be allowed to remain at least Mature.
I'm not familiar with the other combat systems in SL.
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Love Hastings
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06-02-2009 11:07
From: Sling Trebuchet
A place that uses the GM system without the sex/nudity ...
Such a place exists? Why?  |
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Shambolic Walkenberg
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06-02-2009 11:13
On the one hand, I'm glad - The subtext that consensual sexual activity was somehow more grotesque and banishsome than murder and torture truly irked me.
On the other hand, I still think this whole Adult Content policy shift is poorly thoguht out and disastrously being implemented.
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Sling Trebuchet
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06-02-2009 11:16
From: Love Hastings Such a place exists? Why? For the combat. For instance, I have an arena floating over one of my parcels. It's nothing to do with Gor apart from using the Gorean Meter.
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Milla Janick
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06-02-2009 11:23
The word "Gorean" will make your descriptions and ads adult.
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Ceera Murakami
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06-02-2009 11:23
I have no doubt that some "combat" systems, which, like a game of Laser Tag, only keep a score or incapacatate a defeated opponent, will manage to remain on the Mainland.
But in most of them, including the Linden-owned "Combat sims", where damage is enabled and losers "die" and get sent back to their home point. Off to Zindara with them (or whatever they've decided to call the Adults-only continent).
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Sling Trebuchet
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06-02-2009 11:39
From: Milla Janick The word "Gorean" will make your descriptions and ads adult. This means that I can't sell my Gorean Microwaves. Curse you LL!! Don't laugh! I definitely saw someone looking for such a thing a long time ago in one of the forums.
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Amity Slade
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06-02-2009 11:46
Usually, "intense violence" (such as with video games) refers to violence that produces blood, gore, or death. Violence that just includes being knocked down or somesuch would be excluded (e.g., Bugs Bunny violence, G.I. Joe violence, or A-Team violence).
Of course, Linden Lab does not define intense, probably does not know what they really mean by it, so you should expect aberrant, inconsistent enforcement that prevents you from predicting in advance whether what you want to do violates the policy or not.
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Amaranthim Talon
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06-02-2009 11:49
OK- so.. I haven't been minding this too much since i don't have any adult content in my stores... I thought - I have one really nice human-sized cage billed as a Pet Cage - will this now make my stores unsearcheable?
Up to now I did have some terms that might be considered Adult under the new guidelines- like Dom, Master, Mistress, etc, since who the heck else would need a large cage? But there is no 'offensive' content in my stores not even skins!
Do I need to re-write my land descriptions or does this mean I cannot even have my cage for sale there?
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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06-02-2009 11:51
To me it sounds like you can have the cage there. You just cannot advertise it if pet cage is on thier list of words that is deemed adult.
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Daniel Regenbogen
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06-02-2009 11:51
From: Amity Slade Usually, "intense violence" (such as with video games) refers to violence that produces blood, gore, or death. Violence that just includes being knocked down or somesuch would be excluded (e.g., Bugs Bunny violence, G.I. Joe violence, or A-Team violence). So, if we have some blood, gallows and bones in a grave, the place has to be rated adult? The end of halloween, lol... |
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Cortex Draper
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06-02-2009 11:55
From: Ceera Murakami Reading the new "final" rules on Adult content, it appears that all Combat areas are to be rated "Adult" now?
Shooting guns or arrows or hacking someone to bits with swords or axes with the intent of "killing" your opponents and causing their "death" would seem to absolutely require being in an Adult rated sim now. I see no exceptions. Death is death. That is your interpretation of killing and death in a game. The poor graphics of SL combat dont count as "extreme violence" when it comes to video games age ratings as there arn't limbs and realistic blood and gore everywhere. Killing with axes and swords is common in childrens video games. |
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Oryx Tempel
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06-02-2009 11:55
From: Eli Schlegal And losing most of their players because they are not age verified. Age verification is NOT REQUIRED to be registered as "adult." From the Blog: "As a reminder, you can verify your account in a number of ways, including having a payment relationship with Linden Lab or XStreet or through age verification with Aristotle." https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2009/06/01/adult-content-changes-in-summary |
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Looli Vella
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06-02-2009 11:58
From: Shambolic Walkenberg The subtext that consensual sexual activity was somehow more grotesque and banishsome than murder and torture truly irked me. I'm surprised this hasn't come up sooner. I find the grouping of the two together more than irksome. And I haven't heard anything that talks about how the new triple-X rated nawty continent is going to be "zoned." I'm not interested in combat or bloody, murderous violence, and I sure don't want to overhear murdering mayhem in chat when I'm being, uh, let's call it wined and dined. I'm not condemning it, I can see murderous violence's appeal, but it's a weird mix. I'm curious if they've given any thought to this or if they are assuming that all "adult" activity can co-exist peacefully. People may not want gore with their Gor! |
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Hellboy Tal
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06-02-2009 12:04
From: Brenda Connolly me thinks they better start building some more Adult Continents Me thinks LL needs to hire more adults.
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Love Hastings
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06-02-2009 12:05
From: Looli Vella I'm surprised this hasn't come up sooner. I find the grouping of the two together more than irksome. And I haven't heard anything that talks about how the new triple-X rated nawty continent is going to be "zoned."
I'm not interested in combat or bloody, murderous violence, and I sure don't want to overhear murdering mayhem in chat when I'm being, uh, let's call it wined and dined. I'm not condemning it, I can see murderous violence's appeal, but it's a weird mix.
I'm curious if they've given any thought to this or if they are assuming that all "adult" activity can co-exist peacefully. People may not want gore with their Gor! You're over thinking this. LL simply wants to segregate all the stuff which they believe keeps all those rich corporations and universities from buying into SL. I doubt they really care how it mixes in its new home. And they're probably in for a nasty shock when all those companies don't start lining up waving buckets of cash at them. |
