Oh! For the Love of Ruth!
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Sae Luan
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10-23-2007 11:11
From: Lindal Kidd It's SLang (and that right there is a new one I just made up. Alyx, are you reading this? New Word Alert!) SLang (slang) n. Any word made up to describe a facet of the popular game/virtual world, Second Life. Anyway, "Ruth" is the default SL avatar. She's even got her own folder in your Library under Clothing/Other Outfits, I think. Whenever SL can't find your actual appearance, it assigns Ruth to you. The outcome is referred to as "Ruthing", or "Being Ruthed". I've seen Ruthing of several varieties. The most common is the redhaired newbie girl with the purple sweater.. the classic Ruth. I've also seen "partial" Ruths, where a guy will have breasts, but also a beard and mustache. Lately, what I've been seeing is "AnonymRuth" (Another new one, Alyx!) This one is the appearance you often get just after you teleport somewhere...female shape, brown skin, short brown hair, blank white eyes)...but the Av who is AnonymRuthed can't put on a different shape or clothes. "Forced Ruthing" fixes this. CTRL+ALT+D to activate the Client menu. Then Client/Character/Character Tests/Test Female (or Test Male), to give you the default avatar. Which is all far more than you probably wanted to know, but now you are a smarter avatar. Welcome to SL, Eve! And do stop by the Forum Hangout on the shore of Allana, where a lot of the Forum Regulars here can be found when they're in-world. Ok, I'm no newb...but I totally didn't know all that. I mean I knew what being ruthed meant, but not specifically that it throws an avatar on you that IS named Ruth lol. XD Ok guys, I think it's time for a SLang manual or dictionary thing haha.
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Trout Recreant
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10-23-2007 11:14
From: Eve Drechsler Thanks Trout.
It's good to remember that everyone was a newbie at one time huh.
Pardon my ignorance (being a newbie), but what is a Ruth? /me gives you a big hug. Welcome to SL and the forums. You already got an answer, but welcome anyway. Don't worry about standing out as a newb. That fades with time. Don't hurry to collect all sorts of stuff, either. Just get some Lindens and shop around and think about how you really want to look, then get the good stuff. For now, go get a bunch of freebies to play with. They're free, so who cares if you don't like them later - just delete them.
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Okiphia Rayna
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Join date: 22 Sep 2007
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10-23-2007 11:16
From: Trout Recreant /me gives you a big hug.
Welcome to SL and the forums. You already got an answer, but welcome anyway. Don't worry about standing out as a newb. That fades with time. Don't hurry to collect all sorts of stuff, either. Just get some Lindens and shop around and think about how you really want to look, then get the good stuff. For now, go get a bunch of freebies to play with. They're free, so who cares if you don't like them later - just delete them. Hehe don't? I've got so many freebie items I could build a castle (Though a lumpy one) with unique items... ill be doing an inventory cleaning this weekend lol
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
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10-23-2007 11:19
From: Okiphia Rayna Hehe don't? I've got so many freebie items I could build a castle (Though a lumpy one) with unique items... ill be doing an inventory cleaning this weekend lol You sound a little like me, only I've been collecting crap for like 2 years instead of 2 month ;p Delete, don't think Delete, don't think 
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-23-2007 11:22
From: Sae Luan You sound a little like me, only I've been collecting crap for like 2 years instead of 2 month ;p Delete, don't think Delete, don't think  lol..gotta think about some stuff.. I use the freebie hairs in various outfits.. and skins for various things... but glasses i've never worn on my main av..ever... and i gotta keep my newb creations for laughs a year down the road...lol.... I realized yesterday my larger fountain that I made two days in is missing the water in the trough part cause I didn't know how to link properly...
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Annabelle Babii
Unholier than thou
Join date: 2 Jun 2007
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10-23-2007 11:26
From: Lindal Kidd Yes. That brown golem is apparently the "clay" from which we are all made. Kinda makes you all philosophical, doesn't it?  Deep inside, we're all Ruth.
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
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10-23-2007 11:27
From: Okiphia Rayna lol..gotta think about some stuff.. I use the freebie hairs in various outfits.. and skins for various things... but glasses i've never worn on my main av..ever... and i gotta keep my newb creations for laughs a year down the road...lol.... I realized yesterday my larger fountain that I made two days in is missing the water in the trough part cause I didn't know how to link properly... Oh yes, do keep a few creations for laughs. I do pretty well at building now and pulled some things out of my old stuff to show a friend the other day. It made for quite a funny afternoon.
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Eve Drechsler
A RL Catherine Willows
Join date: 21 Oct 2007
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10-23-2007 11:27
Ta again Trout. I've already started weeding out the wheat from the chaff in my inventory. I've been trying out demo hair/skin and wandering round shops but will take my time before deciding what I really want - just like RL, I can be so indecisive at times! I'm gonna log on and take a snapshot of me now for later comparison as per the thread that's going on here /327/41/218691/1.html. Anyone know how long the BB code is disabled in the forum, or am I missing something again?
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Sae Luan
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10-23-2007 11:28
From: Eve Drechsler Anyone know how long the BB code is disabled in the forum, or am I missing something again?
Probably until hell freezes over  its been off for soooo long now. lol
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Eve Drechsler
A RL Catherine Willows
Join date: 21 Oct 2007
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10-23-2007 11:52
Thanks, it's a pain in the butt.
Help for a noob please. I've just been logged into SL and someone propositioned me (wooo) and obviously being a good girl I politely declined. However he said I was naked........errr I wasn't, I was fully clothed and said so. He said it 'must be a glitch at my end'. Can this happen or is he slinging me a line?
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
Join date: 6 Feb 2006
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10-23-2007 12:19
From: Eve Drechsler Thanks, it's a pain in the butt. Help for a noob please. I've just been logged into SL and someone propositioned me (wooo) and obviously being a good girl I politely declined. However he said I was naked........errr I wasn't, I was fully clothed and said so. He said it 'must be a glitch at my end'. Can this happen or is he slinging me a line? Unfortunately, the view YOU see of yourself is not always what someone else sees. I've seen some horrific things and found out that the person with them didn't even realize it. Alot of times when you are ruthed, you won't even know.
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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10-23-2007 13:38
People sometimes tell me I'm naked - but then that' normally through choice in my case!! I don't get embarassed about being naked but I get very embarassed about having missing textures, Ruthness or ponytail in wrong place etc. What us occasional naturists do need to worry about, though, is logging out in our birthday suits only to find next time we log in, 'home location is unavailable....' and we end up naked but showing detailed skin (and appropriate appendages if you're a guy) in a PG infohub somewhere!!! Difficult to explain that one to shocked newbies!
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Har Fairweather
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10-23-2007 13:42
From: Sae Luan Unfortunately, the view YOU see of yourself is not always what someone else sees. I've seen some horrific things and found out that the person with them didn't even realize it. Alot of times when you are ruthed, you won't even know. Heh.. My favorite case: Guy in Help Island Public walking around with a newbie dong sticking out. Got warning from a Help Island Mentor, ignored it. I sent him an IM. Turned out he was a Bulgarian with limited English who couldn't see his attachment was showing from the normal behind-the-back-over-the-shoulder view. He was VERY apologetic when he found out what the problem was.
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Eve Drechsler
A RL Catherine Willows
Join date: 21 Oct 2007
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10-23-2007 13:46
From: Har Fairweather Heh.. My favorite case: Guy in Help Island Public walking around with a newbie dong sticking out. Got warning from a Help Island Mentor, ignored it. I sent him an IM. Turned out he was a Bulgarian with limited English who couldn't see his attachment was showing from the normal behind-the-back-over-the-shoulder view. He was VERY apologetic when he found out what the problem was. What a shame. But it didn't half make me laugh!
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Kitty Barnett
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10-23-2007 13:55
From: Eve Drechsler However he said I was naked........errr I wasn't, I was fully clothed and said so. He said it 'must be a glitch at my end'. Can this happen or is he slinging me a line? It's possible if you took everything off before getting dressed again, if something went wrong with uploading the new baked texture (you tp to a new sim too quickly for instance) you could look dressed to yourself, but naked to everyone else. When you're changing clothes, it's also possible for the skin to show through the texture while it's rezzing in (changing into a halter top would show your breasts for a moment for instance), although that should pass as it rezzes for people. The most disconcerting thing is that what you see on your screen isn't necessarily how other people see you  . If someone points out that something is wrong, just rebake to be safe  . When I was new I had to spend half a day running around SL topless (to myself). Everyone ensured me I was properly dressed on their screen, I could only hope they were being truthful  . (I learned the "check what you're wearing before you go anywhere or log off" lesson on my second day when I logged on at Ahern and some thoughtul guy *shouted* "Kitty doesn't have any panties on under her skirt"  )
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Har Fairweather
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10-23-2007 14:01
From: Kitty Barnett It's possible if you took everything off before getting dressed again, if something went wrong with uploading the new baked texture (you tp to a new sim too quickly for instance) you could look dressed to yourself, but naked to everyone else. When you're changing clothes, it's also possible for the skin to show through the texture while it's rezzing in (changing into a halter top would show your breasts for a moment for instance), although that should pass as it rezzes for people. The most disconcerting thing is that what you see on your screen isn't necessarily how other people see you  . If someone points out that something is wrong, just rebake to be safe  . When I was new I had to spend half a day running around SL topless (to myself). Everyone ensured me I was properly dressed on their screen, I could only hope they were being truthful  . (I learned the "check what you're wearing before you go anywhere or log off" lesson on my second day when I logged on at Ahern and some thoughtul guy *shouted* "Kitty doesn't have any panties on under her skirt"  ) I'm sure you were quite fetching either way. : )
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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10-23-2007 14:05
I've come to the conclusion that in SL you have to take a slightly more relaxed approach to nudity than people tend to do in RL. Sometimes you just end up naked.
Here's a weird psychological glitch that I had that still makes me laugh. I was with a friend and she wanted to go to some RP sim that she had seen (not one of "those" RP sims - this was legit). So she changes in front of me - not a shred of nudity, just bam, rezzes appropriate clothes. I find the perfect outfit and try to do the same, but somehow everything got screwed up and there I was, pantsless until I figured out how to fix it. I wasn't so much upset about being naked as I was about the fact that I didn't have Trout Jr. attached. Something about me standing there, sans male parts, HORRIFIED me. Like I mean severe psychological damage. I still laugh about it now, because it's so stupid, but it was just a gut reaction. OMG! She'll see I have no stuff! PANIC!! It turns out she wasn't even looking and didn't notice, but geesh. I felt so stupid.
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Kitty Barnett
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10-23-2007 14:13
From: Har Fairweather I'm sure you were quite fetching either way. : ) *sticks out her tongue at Har when he's not looking  *
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Nate Fox
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10-23-2007 15:16
From: Trout Recreant Ahhh Damnit! I missed naked Brenda.
She sends me naked Ruths and I pimp them out to Anshe Chung to make 10L furniture in 3rd world sweatshops.
Actually, if I have time, I usually talk them through putting on some clothes, give them the newbie resource guide and a little advice on how SL works. Some people were really nice to me when I started and I'm just trying to pay it back a little. A lot of people don't remember what being a new resident is like. It's awful. You look like ass, you're broke. You don't know how to get money and camping is frustratingly slow, but you don't know how to build, script, texture, design or anything else and even if you did, you have no hope of setting anything for sale. You can't work the camera to even see what you look like. There's all sorts of weird sexual stuff going on. You walk like an idiot, but everyone else seems to walk normally. Then you hear "AO" and it means nothing to you. Once you get one, you can't make it work. Your hair is awful compared to everyone else's. Eventually, you get caged, orbitted, set on fire, and hit in the face with a supersonic watermelon.
SL is a bitch to newbs. I vote for being extra nice to them. They usually need a hug. I actually enjoyed my time as a newb. My SL was the product of some 'friend' using me for L's then muting me. After that I laughed it off and decided to try it for one day. I started reading the signs all around the old newbie zone and came upon this one called Midnight City. I double clicked it to see if info would pop up and it auto-teleported me. When I got there I met this cool girl named Aimee and a very helpful guy Casval. After about 2 hours I knew everything I needed to know about SL to survive. Not saying you're wrong Trout just pointing out that with good people like you and those two, being a newb isn't all that bad. EDIT - Cause I'm a member of the grammar police.
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Crunch Underwood
Mr. Grown up, Go away sir
Join date: 25 Sep 2007
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10-23-2007 15:26
i'v come across plenty of Ruths but i'v not so far experianced the whole ruth turning into a man thing, thats creepy as far as other people seeing something different than yourself, quite a few times people have comented on how lovely i dance when i apear to be sitting down. dancing is not really something an Ogre should be doing  a simple log out and back in fixes most things
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Har Fairweather
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10-23-2007 15:29
From: Kitty Barnett *sticks out her tongue at Har when he's not looking  * Ooh, tongues! Don't get me started...
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Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
Join date: 17 Oct 2006
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10-23-2007 17:37
Time for another Ruthaplooza?
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Cee Edman
The Dude Abides
Join date: 2 Oct 2007
Posts: 283
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10-25-2007 16:22
As a noob, I rented a place to live, and had several problems with the fixture and fittings. Fixing these required the attention of the landlord for a period of an hour or so. His computer kept crashing, and every time he logged in again, he appeared first as a Ruth, then morphed into a man. I thought it was a riot, and that he might normally have been a female Av, changing just for the purpose of dealing with me. When I asked about it, he was completely unaware of Ruthing. I saw it, he didn't. Which leads to this question. Sometimes, when we log in, we get the message that our clothes are slow in rezzing, "But others will see you properly". I have found this to be a lie. On occasion, I have two Avs active at the same time. When one has this delayed clothes problem, the other *does not* see a dressed Av, but a Ruth. Anyone else notice this?
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Colette Meiji
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10-25-2007 16:27
From: Cee Edman As a noob, I rented a place to live, and had several problems with the fixture and fittings. Fixing these required the attention of the landlord for a period of an hour or so. His computer kept crashing, and every time he logged in again, he appeared first as a Ruth, then morphed into a man. I thought it was a riot, and that he might normally have been a female Av, changing just for the purpose of dealing with me. When I asked about it, he was completely unaware of Ruthing. I saw it, he didn't. Which leads to this question. Sometimes, when we log in, we get the message that our clothes are slow in rezzing, "But others will see you properly". I have found this to be a lie. On occasion, I have two Avs active at the same time. When one has this delayed clothes problem, the other *does not* see a dressed Av, but a Ruth. Anyone else notice this? yes this is true .. Always assume if you are "Clothing is still downloading" you are Ruthed.
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Annabelle Babii
Unholier than thou
Join date: 2 Jun 2007
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10-25-2007 16:28
From: Cee Edman As a noob, I rented a place to live, and had several problems with the fixture and fittings. Fixing these required the attention of the landlord for a period of an hour or so. His computer kept crashing, and every time he logged in again, he appeared first as a Ruth, then morphed into a man. I thought it was a riot, and that he might normally have been a female Av, changing just for the purpose of dealing with me. When I asked about it, he was completely unaware of Ruthing. I saw it, he didn't. Which leads to this question. Sometimes, when we log in, we get the message that our clothes are slow in rezzing, "But others will see you properly". I have found this to be a lie. On occasion, I have two Avs active at the same time. When one has this delayed clothes problem, the other *does not* see a dressed Av, but a Ruth. Anyone else notice this? Carefull... if the Lindens know you've found them out like this, you may disappear from the grid.
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