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03-25-2009 11:17
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
mmmhmmm

Can I claim my SL business skills?

ooh...a question. Should I make a thread out of it??
I seem to recall that someone has already asked this question.

Pep (I said that unless you made more than you would have flipping burgers in the same amount of time it was probably counter-productive)
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03-25-2009 11:19
From: Paracelsus Schonberg
Ouch! "Their fault" seems a poor choice of words. It is a shop owners "fault" for their rules?

However, this thread is about a complaint and the poster showed no interest in wanting to know about other options. If he wanted constructive help, he may have phrased his concern quite differently, to wit:

"I'm new to SL and found a shop with freebies, for which I am thankful that the parcel owner provides free, but I need to be a member for at least two weeks before I can take them. Does anyone know of any resources available to help a newbie? Thanks in advance."

What world does he come from where common courtesy is dead?

My response may appear to be overboard, but he comes to this forum bragging about his perfect VR world, acts like he knows what VR is all about, puts down Amity, and SL, and demands attention. He needs adult supervision before being allowed to spew his vituperative nonsense any where.


I had no problem with OP's response. Your responses on the other hand . . .

From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
And why are you being like this? This is a newcomer to SL...and you just want to argue with him? Give the guy a break. He came, he asked his questions, and he's getting help.

Thanks.
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03-25-2009 11:24
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I had no problem with OP's response. Your responses on the other hand . . .
That is your opinion with which I have no disagreement. However, using ellipses as a way to criticize is not constructive.
Ceka Cianci
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03-25-2009 11:27
I think the OP will find that RLC is a bit different than SL.
the players here create everything you see..they own the lands and islands and mainlands..
they get a piece of land and make their own place where they can have their own home or their own company and their own business rules as long as they follow the TOS

there are over 20,000 servers in SL if not more..some servers supporting 4 sims some supporting 8sims..

The moderators of the lands are the people that own them and the people they may hire to help with their business..

we may not like the rules some have for their sims and lands they pay for..but we do have to respect those rights just as we would to any ones property in RL..

it is not an easy concept to grasp right away because most virtual worlds are not setup like SL..
A lot of people including myself when first coming to SL think that everything is part of a game..
they see a parked car and think they can drive it but soon find out it doesn't work because someone actually owns that car..or the see a stage and people dancing on it..they grab a spot on the stage and find people getting mad at them not knowing they walked into a real business...

there is a lot to learn even coming from other virtual worlds..but i think the more you find out about the things that you can do here is when it becomes something that grasps people and keeps them coming back..

a lot don't give it the time to grasp them and they turn away in the first few days or even hours..this is why there is such a leave factor with SL..but the ones that do stay end up staying for years..

there is a big learning curve here and after 3 years i am still learning so much..if this was any other virtual world i would have had it all figured out by now..
We know we are beta they don't have to tell us..
mainly because we are the creators of everything everyone see's..

i hope this helps some in understanding a little more about SL..
i didn't really read the whole thread..just kind of proof read it some..
it's not easy being new here but nothing is better than the first year here..at least for me..it gets better but just seeing all the possibilities was an exciting time..

there is no better virtual world out there..our 80+k logins and millions of residents only solidify this..
and that is with 80% turning away SL and 20% staying..
the numbers of people just looking and trying this world out are amazing hehehehe
i don't know what we would do if 80% decided to say and there was a 20% turn away rate lol
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03-25-2009 11:27
From: Paracelsus Schonberg
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03-25-2009 11:29
RLC? Gawd, the poorest excuse for a virtual world I've ever seen.
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03-25-2009 11:36
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
RLC? Gawd, the poorest excuse for a virtual world I've ever seen.

that was a guess on my part but all of it sounds like RLC.they brag about being beta and you can design clothes there..a lot give them away for free in the forums..
it's been around a long time..
but it is small..i tried it one time and got the vip pass..i didn't take too long to drop my vip pass..there was really nothing much to do there..
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-25-2009 13:21
WOW I am surprised you guys did not recognize a troll when you saw one.

why would anyone come and complain about one single freebie place, when the grid is flooded with freebies, other than to troll?
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Amity Slade
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03-25-2009 13:42
This is the most attention I have received since I've been in Second Life.

(P.S. I'm just making a whimsical statement based on the region name sharing my name. I have nothing to do with the place, just like I have nothing to do with the 1979 horror movie.)

On-topic, there is the trade-off one makes with bias against new residents. It's true that the longer someone has been in Second Life, the more that person knows about how to socialize and survive in Second Life.

On the other hand, first habits and first friends one makes in Second Life are lasting. What one gives up by avoiding newbies is shaping the way they play Second Life. If you're a merchant, you may realize the value in being the first place someone shops (that's what the fuss about getting high in the search rankings is all about, isn't it?) Also if you're a merchant, you want to be first in line to receive a newbie's money, before the newbie gets ripped off so much that the person doesn't want to spend time in Second Life anymore. Those people who come to Second Life but don't last a month still spend money in that month they last. Merchants are cutting off a big chunk of revenue by avoiding newbgies.

If you're that club looking for dancers, you are giving some other club first shot at new talent looking for a place to fit in, who haven't found other diversions yet.

Personally, having recently gone into the club business and being responsible for hiring employees, I decided that the only way to make sure I get good employees is just to spend time talking to them before hiring. Given that I'm going to spend time getting to know the person anyway, short cuts like how long someone has been in Second Life are useless to me.

I suppose someone else who just wanted to hire as many people as possible with the least amount of time invested, short-cuts like time in Second Life would be valuable.

I don't mind that other places turn away newbies. That funnels a lot of people to me who are smart and talented, but still impressionable and perfect to be shaped into my vision.

Edit: Even if the original post is trolling, it still brings up an issue about a certain attitude that does go around in Second Life.
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03-25-2009 14:24
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
WOW I am surprised you guys did not recognize a troll when you saw one.

why would anyone come and complain about one single freebie place, when the grid is flooded with freebies, other than to troll?


Maybe a troll, but a troll with a point, who the heck makes a freebie store than ejects everyone who shows up under 2 weeks old?

Are they afraid they are going to give out to many freebies?

I have to admit I was rather ticked at getting kicked out of the sim when it happened to me, but I shrugged it off and wandered off to the next freebie spot on the search.
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03-25-2009 14:38
The only valid reason I can think of is bad experience with newborn griefer accounts.

But as stated above, thre are so many freebie sites on the grid that that one site doesn't matter.

Also, there are many sellers with special offers for residents younger than 30 days. I remember staffing out an alt that way for almost nothing so that my (much older) main avvie became seriously jealous. :o
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03-25-2009 14:59
From: Kyllie Wylie
Maybe a troll, but a troll with a point, who the heck makes a freebie store than ejects everyone who shows up under 2 weeks old?

Are they afraid they are going to give out to many freebies?

I have to admit I was rather ticked at getting kicked out of the sim when it happened to me, but I shrugged it off and wandered off to the next freebie spot on the search.

the thing is why should it matter?
They make it the way they want, it is their place to do with as they please.

If we started questioning as to why people do what they do, we would be here a good long time trying to find answers.
If every person that went to a place that did not meet their expectations were to post here, we would be here a good long time going through the posts.
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03-25-2009 17:11
One thing stands is that there are examples of people and groups doing a much better job than the place the OP mentioned. ~That~ place is simply in the position it wants to be and probably deserves a little bit of bad press because of it. (=_=)

I had a little fun myself at the expense of a person giving a "Particle lesson" that typically lead to summary parcel bans within 5 minutes of arrival. Did a SLU thread on the subject, had a little laugh, and moved on. (^_^)

The internet is a quirky place full of quirky people that do quirky things. And this quirky little crud thinks we should just LULZ over it and have a nice day. (^_^)y
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03-25-2009 17:14
From: Aaron Dartmouth
anyone wanna answer why they have the policy that you cant be on their property if you haven't been on SL for 2 weeks?

seems kinda anti-newbie to me.

im boycotting that place btw
im not new to virtual worlds, so that seems kinda discriminating

makes me wish i stayed on a free account for 2 weeks if this practice is regular here



Well, they may have their reasons. Of course it's also totally up to you where to go or shop.

Try Milky9 they have good freebies. Far as I know, no rez date policy.

Some places make a rez date be at least a month old, and not all even explain. They just boot you off the parcel. It isn't personal, though; it's their form of self protection in a sense.

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ETA: Paola raised a good point. So go on over to Gurlywood and get yer free hair! :)

From: Paola
Also, there are many sellers with special offers for residents younger than 30 days.


Wish I could remember who has a free skin set for under-30s.
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03-25-2009 21:30
From: Clarissa Lowell
Wish I could remember who has a free skin set for under-30s.
Adam n Eve has a free skin for under-30-days, as does Fleur Skins. Both of them in male and female versions.
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03-25-2009 21:44
I went to this store once that had no doors! Quite puzzling. I went all around it and flew above and even went underwater but couldn't find the door. I could cam in and see vendors with clothing for sale but I refused to shop at a store that wouldn't even let me in.
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03-26-2009 06:21
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
the thing is why should it matter?
They make it the way they want, it is their place to do with as they please.

If we started questioning as to why people do what they do, we would be here a good long time trying to find answers.
If every person that went to a place that did not meet their expectations were to post here, we would be here a good long time going through the posts.


Hm Rha, he asked a question, he got answers, and he's happy now. If we start questioning the motivation of every person who posts, and ignoring those whose question doesn't please someone else...well, the last one to go, please turn off the lights.

;)
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03-27-2009 06:53
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Cupcake/173/119/37

A store (Cupcake) that has a free skin/shape/set of clothes for rez dates under 30 days old. It's all female stuff, though. Sorry guys.

They also have a few nice things next to that, as freebies, including some cute dresses, a bikini set, and a miniature top hat.

A Piece of Candy (again for women) has an 'attic' with all $1L things I believe, including darker skin tones which can be hard to find in freebies/dollarbies. Those are things anyone can buy, for only $1L.

Anyone know of freebie/dollarbies above the usual freebie-mall quality, but for guys? Or let's say, for non Caucasian skin tones...there does seem to be an over-emphasis in SL freebie/dollarbies on females, and 'white' skin tones!
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03-27-2009 11:02
From: Aaron Dartmouth
anyone wanna answer why they have the policy that you cant be on their property if you haven't been on SL for 2 weeks?

seems kinda anti-newbie to me.

im boycotting that place btw
im not new to virtual worlds, so that seems kinda discriminating

makes me wish i stayed on a free account for 2 weeks if this practice is regular here


My immediate assumption is that they have had too many problems with griefers, who typically use avatars that are only a few days old. So banning all the newly born cuts down on the amount of griefing.
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03-27-2009 11:07
From: ArchTx Edo
My immediate assumption is that they have had too many problems with griefers, who typically use avatars that are only a few days old. So banning all the newly born cuts down on the amount of griefing.

yes very true..with it being so easy to make an avatar or have so many alts..if a person were upset enough they could decide to make an alt to go back to a place and grief it over and over..
the sim owner could have experienced it and said to themselves..this is never happening again..
we used to have people doing that all the time at the clubs i've worked at in the past..
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