amity freebee store

anyone wanna answer why they have the policy that you cant be on their property if you haven't been on SL for 2 weeks?

seems kinda anti-newbie to me.

im boycotting that place btw
im not new to virtual worlds, so that seems kinda discriminating

makes me wish i stayed on a free account for 2 weeks if this practice is regular here

And I thought my wife was impatient!

Pep (can think of loads of entirely justifiable reasons to discriminate against fresh newbies, whether they are alts or not)

PS If you are really not new to virtual worlds then you should be able to work it out for yourself

well it sounds like i have to just wait around for 2 weeks before setting foot in a location.
which is BS tyvm.

and well i know some newbies need a couple of days (or more) to learn everything (especially in a non-user friendly place like SL).

but still.
how is it that i can buy as much land as i want and basically do all kinds of unjustifiable stuff on here but i cant set foot in one store w/o being TP'ed?

oh and btw, the only thing that gives me away as a newbie here is when someone asks me to do something and i have to figure it out... lmao...

i never really liked SL, but decided to give it a second try... thats why i sound the way i do, ive been in another (better) virtual world that well... doesnt discriminate against you if you have the money to access certain areas...
dunno who made the two week rule here... but they better fess up soon before i start bothering everyone at linden labs

There is *no* standard two week rule; most places don't operate any sort of anti-newbie policy. Lots of people won't employ newbies until they have been around 28 days though. Some places ban on a whim - and owners have every right to allow whoever they want or don't want on their property, so running to the Lindens will do you no good at all.

You are obviously too nice a person for sl if you think that it should be a moral society. Perhaps you should go back to your "better" virtual world where cash is king.

Pep (As for the probable explanation - think instant griefers to avoid bans)

im only giving it a second try cause i do like the editing tools here.
plus, according to numbers, this is the most popular virtual world atm.
so of course id end up here. lol

but they need to do something about the lag.
lmao

oh and thanks for your responses Pser


so since my initial question has only been half answered. im gonna ask this:
do they have staff here that disconnect and block the instant griefers?
cause if they did id imagine that 2 week rule would be non existant...

I use to go to a club that announced everyones (age) when they came in the door. Those who had been in SL for less than a month would be automatically booted. No human interaction required.

sheesh, and SL is lucky to have residents who stay longer than a month.

my opinion anyways...

Hmmm, curious as to what other virtual worlds you belong to that come close to SL? I have a folder full of LMs for newbies, but you pick one location to have a beef with? Such expectations, arrogance, and anger! And, if you were serious about receiving an answer, rather than just wanting to complain, you might have considered contacting the owner for the answer before spewing forth your venom in a public forum. Forgive me for being so trite when I say this but . . . grow up.

well who's the owner of Amity?
and why does he have a freebee store that newbies cant come to?

sorry if i come across crass, or however you feel...
but im kinda pissed at this cause this is news to me.
but like i said, doesn't "in-world" have moderators for the abusers?

oh and btw i did fix the lag thing... had to figure out the damn SL settings jeez...
the other virtual world i belong to is known for having adult content actually so you can probably find it very easily... they have less bugs there and admit to still being in beta, unlike SL.

and of course im gonna complain about not getting an answer

and no sl isn't all its cracked up to be since its not very user friendly, not that any of the creators intend on improving it. i was never an sl fan, but at least im giving it a second chance.

just forget about that place and try another. Free Dove comes to mind, lots of nice free stuff. I never heard of Amity till now.

So now you are complaining that you are not receiving an answer from this forum for a question best posed to the shop owner by whom you are feeling abused? Usually, I try to be very helpful, but your attitude is that of a spoiled brat and warrants no further encouragement. Please do go back to your shot-em-up games and that wonderful VR world you assume everyone knows about that is so wonderful.

Free Dove

Gnubies

NCI

Yadni's

Sarah Nerd's

Gamer's Brand

TUI

HPI

Freebie Island

The list goes on and on... (^_^)

The problem you found is NOT a problem of SL. It's a problem of a few people in SL. Their land, their rules, and their fault alone. (^_^)

As for griefers and abusers. If you see someone violating the TOS, Click Help >> Report Abuse and fill out the dialogue that comes up. Surely, if you have a clear enough description of the abuse, an admin will arrive and deal with the problem. (^_^)y

oh and btw i dont play shoot em up games



and to answer your other comment.
how am i gonna find out the owner if im not allowed on their land?

yes thank you!
thats something along the lines of what i was looking for!!

*hats off to you*

Ouch! "Their fault" seems a poor choice of words. It is a shop owners "fault" for their rules?

However, this thread is about a complaint and the poster showed no interest in wanting to know about other options. If he wanted constructive help, he may have phrased his concern quite differently, to wit:

"I'm new to SL and found a shop with freebies, for which I am thankful that the parcel owner provides free, but I need to be a member for at least two weeks before I can take them. Does anyone know of any resources available to help a newbie? Thanks in advance."

What world does he come from where common courtesy is dead?

My response may appear to be overboard, but he comes to this forum bragging about his perfect VR world, acts like he knows what VR is all about, puts down Amity, and SL, and demands attention. He needs adult supervision before being allowed to spew his vituperative nonsense any where.

Never heard of this place. Did you try any OTHER places? Why are you assuming they're all like that just because you can't get into that place? What's so special about that one place? Do they have some incredible freebies there that we can't live without for two weeks? I also have a slew of LM's that I hand out to newbies (Amity isn't one of 'em; never heard of it), as well as transferrable clothing and other items that I give them (if they want them), LM's to places that give free AO's specifically to n00b's - in fact, one place will ONLY give you their free AO if you're UNDER 30 days old...and it's a great AO...which I really wish I had found in MY first 30 days... Truthfully, I embrace n00b's because we were all new once. But landowners/shop owners have a right to make whatever rules they want...and perhaps the owner of Amity has had bad experiences with newbies. (You can TP via the map to a spot next to the border and right-click across the border to check About Land to see who the owner is)

[If you have been to a "better" virtual world, what are you doing in SL if you dislike it so much? LOL And what is this "better" virtual world? I'd like to check it out if it's better...]

I hope you don't let one shop owner's rules continue to tarnish your opinion of SL.

Actually, yes, "their fault". (^_^)

When someone puts up a policy that, at a loss for words, "sucks"; I can't see calling all of SL bad because of it. It's not exactly LL's fault that SL "sucks" because there are a lot of people here that make it "suck". So... People with paranoid land policies are holding their fair share of fault for making the place appear bad as a whole. (^_^)

I face people daily that say "SL Sucks" and they don't make any effort to improve things. "Be the change you want to see in the world." (^_^)y

Agreed. I'm just stuck on the negative connotation by the use of the word "fault" as though Amity has done something wrong. And, gosh, it is awful early in the morning here for my brain to even wonder why it is stuck! Need more java and work on my nicotine neurotransmitters, maybe the brain will get unstuck.

Yes - it is BS that you need to wait around.

As with anything else you encounter in SL that isn't breaking the law or TOS but doesn't meet your personal approval, you can just go elsewhere. Sorted!

--
Aes

Aaron, I'm sorry you ran into this. It is not a common practice, trust me.

Forget Amity and head for some of the other places you were given. If you look at my profile inworld, I own a mall and it has a nice Gift Center for things like men's clothing, avatars, etc. - no age restrictions or limits.

I am curious about your "other world"...do tell us what it is, please

And welcome to SL

well if you really want to know i guess you can IM me in-world since you cant seem to do it elsewhere on this site. they've been around since 2002 and still consider themselves beta even though it seems like they have less bugs there, and more user friendly.

im an affiliate there actually, but dont really feel like spamming the board cause i have common courtesy. Im also a home designer and texture/clothing designer there. ive just started to figure out that stuff here in SL so it may be a while before you see any of my work on here...

anyways... thanks for the discussion...

Go into your User CP > Edit Options > Enable Private Messaging. Then you can get/send messages in the forums.

That store sounds very much like a very rare exception rather than the rule in SL. Personally, I found it does take a little while to sort of get into SL as the learning curve can be a bit steep but I think it's worth it. There's plenty to complain about but also a ton of cool stuff and ways to be creative.

I'll drop you a noobie notecard in-world I keep up to date with landmarks for a whole bunch of freebie stores and where to get some basic things like a free radar and animation overrider. Since it seems like you're interested in building, it has info on where you can learn more about that too. Hope that helps and welcome to SL.

You do not need to be on someone's parcel to find the owner's name. I will continue to be the devil on this matter and ask you, why not phrase a question politely, to wit: "Could you please tell me how to find out the name of the parcel owner?"

And why is Amity being made into a villian in this thread? If you don't like a vendors policy, just go somewhere else.

And why are you being like this? This is a newcomer to SL...and you just want to argue with him? Give the guy a break. He came, he asked his questions, and he's getting help.