Absolutely brilliant solution to bots on your land

Where the hell did I say anything about ban lines?! I didn't. Not word one. I said a lot about camming in order to invade people's privacy but NOT. ONE. WORD. about ban lines. Are we perhaps getting a little uncomfy about being Peeping Toms or possibly shills peddling islands and therefore changing history here? And by the way, I don't have any ban lines up at all.

The subject (mine, anyway) was the word privacy bringing out this compulsive rant about there not being any in SL, which is demonstrably not true - there is partial privacy that's not good enough yet. That needs to be worked on, and there are JIRAs for doing it (see earlier post).

Have to agree the bee swarms are useful - and amusing. Have to agree also that unprovoked ban lines are a pain in the butt for everyone else. If people must use them, they should please use them sparingly and give all of us and SL a break.

That said, there are people who are subjected to harrassment enough to feel driven to the practice. If that happens to you, just remember that they are not only defensive; ban lines can be passive-aggressive too, and sometimes they do seem to be used that way.

I would go for one of these systems; only I would like one that uses a swarm of tiny Woody Allens to push people away.

That's a brilliant idea. Calling it "The Woody Pusher" will generate a lot of interest, too.

LOL Brilliant!

Har, my use of banlines in my post was rhetorical. I did not accuse you of using them. I'm happy you don't and even more, you yourself express similar views on them. I in fact, changed the last line of my post rather rapidly when I realised there could have been another misunderstanding.

No, I am not getting uncomfy about being a Peeping Tom .. no, I am not peddling islands whether or not I could change history. Frankly, you lost me there

I apologise if my post rankled you. Tod made a point about the present state of affairs which you seemed to react badly to. I hoped my post would elaborate the issue. We do, by all accounts share a similar view it seems. The OP's bees are an excellent idea.

Personally, I shan't vote on the Jira issue. Bagg End is open to all but I *do* respect others wish for privacy.

AHHHHH Blessed silence...ty SO much!

Not fair, Har. You took the words right out my keyboard. Don't you see them pumping their chest' up, gleaming with pride at the thought of this.

Well, it certainly seems like many people get gratification, satisfaction and who knows what else by going around sticking their noses where they don't belong or/and are not wanted.

I keep seeing where some say they "hike" across sims. My question is, why would anyone want to 'hike' across a sim, a residential sim to begin with? I can certainly understand if it's a place like Acropolis or any of the many other large sims that are for the public to view. But a regular sim or one where you see houses? You don't have to be really smart to know a residential area from a public one.

Besides, who the heck 'hikes' when you have tp to get around? What's the real purpose of doing this anyway? To see the sites? C'mon, now. There's so many places to go where it's for public viewing where you see beautiful sites like Greenies or as mentioned, Acropolis and you choose to go around isolated areas where people have their homes? Duh!

I forgot, the word used is "exploring." This along with the word "hiking" go hand in hand as excuses for trespassing unto other peoples property. Then when they get ejected -and personally, I eject them without any hesitation- then you see the outcry of you're rude and you're mean and you're this and you're that. And you should of been polite and you should of asked how was their day and their family. This to the people who in many instances are repeat offenders. Or who to refuse to leave after being asked to.

There is some privacy in sl and there should be but it's the peeping toms who are against it. Mostly the "hikers" who love "exploring" private areas.

Yeah, right. More like explore the sky as you're on your way out after being ejected. My patience is long gone, I don't ask anymore I just press the lil red button.

If they don't inconvience then why the constant whine, moan and bitch about ban lines? It's all you see each time the words ban lines are mentioned.

After all that fapping I hope you wash your hands first.

I'm getting distinct deja vu here .. or have Linden introduced zoning since the last time we had this? I'm not aware of residential zones. I know some content creators buy Private Islands but on mainland I can walk past a shop, a private house and a club one after another. There is a barn shop two plots away from me. Where are these zones?

Why hike? Why shouldn't we? In early days we would teleport to a telehub and perhaps walk a dozen plots to get to ours. I'm not in fact that old but have heard others refer back to it. There is nothing wrong with walking. It's not against the Community Standards that I am aware of .. or is there a Jira for that too?

Many, many people leave their homes open to view. Things can't get stolen. With no-build, you can't even leave a mess. Com-mun-nity ... it's a frightening prospect

Well I don't know if anyone else has but I know I would play this game on bad arieas of the mainland. Put on a flight pack and get a little hieght then you power dive on some ban lined parcle and before you hit you stop flying and just fall. You will bounce off the parcel as fast as you hit it in a new direction. Then you see how many different parcels your flailing avatar bounces off before you finaly hit the ground or get tped home by a security script.

as far as the privacy people and the talk about exploring some how being wrong. You have not seen the things i've seen. Watching the sun rise of the cloud cloaked mountian as the tree dewllings and caves catch the light. You have not seen the jumbled wonders of anarchy were a tea pot house sits next to a post apocaliptic bunker as in the background a 50 m tall bilboard of a man pile driving shark. The strange bed fellows as a chistian missionary park telling the evils of wereing black and listening to rock is bad renting land form a gorean sim. Keep in your bunkers and we shall see the wonders of a world without limits.

The *entire* post in fact demonstrates their inneffectiveness at stopping peeping toms, your other main gripe but go on, quote me out of context.

I like to fly around sometimes too. It's fun to see all the imaginative (or just plain nuts) builds. And it does involve flying or walking across parcel lines. I don't, however, poke around in people's houses, either directly or by remote cam, whether anyone's home or not. I mean, show a little respect.

I think you made an Oxymoron...



I'm not offended. Nice product I think.

"G"

Pretty much all of Bilbo's answer goes for me too. And by all means, eject trespassers. I do to, on occasion. Usually just people who ignored my greetings or requests to give me some peace while I build. And nothing you said answers the point I raised... what are security systems protecting when you *aren't* at home?

The other people you have using your land when you are not there. That was my main reason. The people that came to my clubs came there to get away from other people that were not apart of the club/group. Hard to enfore if you are not there no?

Give your anal paranoid control freak friends the gift of security this Christmas/Xmas/Winterfest/Other.

The PrimnProper security device will fill their houses with prims when they are away, ensuring that filthy creeps and pervs can not violate the sanctity of their SL homes by entering or camming into them.

New Version 2 - The new low-lag PrimnProper has been stripped down to only the essential 500 open listening scripts. It will not lag your sim very much.

Splitting hairs a bit there, aren't you? If there's someone there, you hardly qualify as being out. I know what you mean though and I'll grant that a good enough reason, but I can't remember a time I was bounced from an occupied parcel.

Good! we agree again .. mostly

What of the unpopulated building? Is it invading privacy to look? For instance Caledon. Hundreds (I think) of magnificent mansion style houses. Some, just some, actually look like shops but many don't show the content for sale till you go in. They don't all have shop signs and the name of the content creator doesn't present itself on screen till you walk onto the plot.

Anywhere on mainland, people can put out freebie boxes or card givers in what doubles up as their home. It isn't as black and white what's a home and what's a shop as some people like to make out.

Anyway, just pointing out that whether entry is prohibited, permitted or encouraged even, isn't always clear .... but a squadron of bees or Woody Allens would get the message across nicely to those of us who enjoy SecondLife.

There, still on topic and I never mentioned banline .... oh damn!!

Added: Oh and ffs before anyone else mistakes my comments for whinging, whining or bitching I am in no way criticising Caledon. It's magnificent!!!

Just to drift back on-topic myself, at least a squadron of chasers (or just one, maybe an ED-209? I always imagine security orbs talking like ED-209) would give an intruder an idea which way to run to get off the property ASAP.

As for the original topic. The "bees" sound cool, but placed wrong I can see an annoyance factor to them. I happen to have something similar just not the same setup or being automatic.

As for the topic that this thread degraded to....

OMG
ROFL
LOL
ROFL
OMG
You can't pay enough for entertainment like this.

Price of your first AV $10
Price of your first virtual car.. 500 L
The Price of watching two opposing sides of a mondane topic venomusly try to change the other side's mind.....

You got it... Priceless.

**OK that is the end of my humorous post. May it not really offend anyone.**

No big deal if everyone in a Sim has ban lines. Don't go there. And pitty any shop owners who are there.

Most travellers however are only going around looking at builds, not trying to watch multiple pixels have sex.

If you like ban lines, perhaps sub parcel your land and leave a "path" around it for the normal travelers.

If you do not like ban lines, no matter how much head bashing you do to them they never fall down. Fly over, or go around and pretend you never hit them. Anything else is wasting your time.


And the real reason I posted here....
It is my experience my posts always seem to end a conversation. This one has seemed to run it's course so.....

At the risk of responding to what reads like a trolling, I find it odd that someone who once started a thread titled "New Security script - debate" considers this thread to have become 'degraded'.

Bee Hive - Home Security (Wasp Nest) ... found at
http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=253428

i have these. and since my land is not set to safe .. they slowly kill any intruder.

Actually I enjoy flying over them, turning off flying, and bouncing up and down.

Well if I am not there then I am out. I cannot ban someone if I am not there. That is why I leave the ban lines up and leave it group access or allowed residence only so those people have a place to go without being bothered. I was pretty surprised how grateful people were that I did that.

In fact if anything it would be just the opposite of what you say. Security off when you ARE there. It seems backwards to me that you would leave security off when you are gone and on when you are there. Maybe an RL thing trickling over.