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ArchTx Edo
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08-22-2007 12:07
From: Oryx Tempel
:) My computer isn't very comfortable on my bed, which is where I do all my reading. And my printer's ink is all dried up. Thanks for the offer tho!


I don't know if PC's have anything comperable, but with a Mac you can highlight the text you want read and the Mac will read it to you outloud. So you can lay back, close your eyes and listen to the story. You can pick from dozens of computer synthesized voices to do the reading. Makes for a nice bed time story.


Or you can invite me over to read you a bed time story, you have to promise to wear slave silks though! :)
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Violet Bobbysocks
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08-22-2007 12:15
Nyoka falls and outpost is a full gorean sim, the owner of the sim also owns Home Sweet Homes. All the buildings on the sim are in gorean style and there is a residence area with several examples of gorean style houses that he has built. Sundance Churchill for more information or a member of HSH staff. Or come on over to the sim and take a peek at the houses.
Victorria Paine
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08-22-2007 12:22
From: Nina Stepford
i suspect that gor attracts quite a few people that merely use it as a vehicle to fulfil a perversion, much how satanism or paganism is used by some. they dont particularly care about the core of the belief but are drawn toward a sexual aspect of it.


Lol, I wouldn't refer to it as a "perversion".

I do agree that, in my view, the main attraction of many to Gor online appears to be the whole master/slave/kajira thing. I think if Gor didn't have that, you wouldn't have seen it mushroom online the way that it has.
Grace Loudon
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08-22-2007 13:36
Though the original post seems to have gotten lost in the usual debate that occurs the moment anyone utters the word Gor, I would like to mention that I owned a Gorean sim, I have read every book and probably know more about it than, well lots of people. I build...I now have sims called Everwind. Check out my shop - lots of stuff in there. It's called Rustic. I have some Gorean and Medieval stuff. (me thinks the guy has probably not only already found a place but moved in, married, had children, left his wife for some chick in silks and stilettos sporting a bow, sold the house and is now living in a hut with a neko rock band)
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08-22-2007 14:03
From: Grace Loudon
. . . living in a hut with a neko rock band)

oooh, neko rock band . .. interesting . . .
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Nathan Childs
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08-22-2007 15:21
Tal,

For all those who would like to know and read the books, the author has authorised Fictionwise distribution rights and they have them for sale (all 26 of them) in ebook formats (multi-format) from which the text can easily be extracted to be printed out or placed in your favourite reader.

Fictionwise is at: http://www.fictionwise.com

Enjoy
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Imogen Saltair
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08-22-2007 15:27
From: Qie Niangao
If you think you're in agony now, wait till you've read a few paragraphs. ;)

I do see a certain drifting of SL Gor towards Steam Punk. It's all a plot by the Priest Kings to annex Caledon, I suspect.



Even if i am not the first to say it,

over my dead body!!!

imogen!

EDIT as an afterthought

A friend of mine visited "Gay Gor" not long ago...

Me: Oh.. how was that?
Friend: I got told off for saying 'Tal' to a slave, or something, and was told that was never in the books...
Me: how did you respond to that?
Friend: I said "Which book had the Gorean warriors taking it in the ass?"#
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Nika Talaj
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08-22-2007 15:52
From: Grace Loudon
(me thinks the guy has probably not only already found a place but moved in, married, had children, left his wife for some chick in silks and stilettos sporting a bow, sold the house and is now living in a hut with a neko rock band)


Lol, NOW i'm interested in this thread. Methinks you're right!! Why does everything with the word Gor in it TAKE so long?? I want to make a Gorean satire sim called "Borean".

But ... can I be a member of the band??

*meow*
Oryx Tempel
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08-22-2007 15:56
From: ArchTx Edo
Or you can invite me over to read you a bed time story, you have to promise to wear slave silks though! :)


Ha ha! Isn't there something about neophytes wearing white? *grins* I really don't mean to offend any one. Maybe I could be the "crazy ragged girl skulking in a corner, bemusedly watching everyone boss everyone else around" or something. LOL.
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08-22-2007 16:30
From: Oryx Tempel
Ha ha! Isn't there something about neophytes wearing white? *grins* I really don't mean to offend any one. Maybe I could be the "crazy ragged girl skulking in a corner, bemusedly watching everyone boss everyone else around" or something. LOL.

Sounds like a Forum Meetup to me.
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Colette Meiji
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08-22-2007 16:46
From: Oryx Tempel
Ha ha! Isn't there something about neophytes wearing white? *grins* I really don't mean to offend any one. Maybe I could be the "crazy ragged girl skulking in a corner, bemusedly watching everyone boss everyone else around" or something. LOL.


Its the virgin slave girls and the priests (celebate) who wear white.

You see plenty of the first group since somehow becoming a gorean magicly restores virginity for women.

You never see any of the second group though :p
Giannia Rossini
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08-22-2007 17:09
I co-designed a Gorean villa based upon the House of Cernus of Ar, from Assassin of Gor. Please contact me in in-game if interested in viewing the building.
Victorria Paine
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08-22-2007 17:15
From: Colette Meiji
Its the virgin slave girls and the priests (celebate) who wear white.

You see plenty of the first group since somehow becoming a gorean magicly restores virginity for women.

You never see any of the second group though :p


Hahaha
Nina Stepford
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08-22-2007 17:21
a neko rock band would kick serious ass.
i imagine they would sound a lot like the donnas or bratmobile or maybe even girlschool or vixen! i dig the idea of a neko rock band irl.
Banking Laws
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08-22-2007 17:23
I did Gor rp on MSN chat.. won't touch it here in SL.


What I do find funny is all the High Castes...I never played any of them, except for a short period where my poet became a scribe through guild ties (and at the behest of a city leader).

I think I had the most fun as an animal trainer, who had a nice little lodge and hunted to provide. Only other person there was my slave (played by my rl fiance when we were still states apart..wow.. 4 or 5 years).

I guess its like other fantasy settings.. everyone is a prince or royalty - rarely the hardworking blacksmith.

One of my rp chars in SL has gotten the title od Dutchess now, but its of a vampire clan, and the founder is the Duke..celtic and throwback vampires they may be in ways, but princes and such are just too plentiful.
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Giannia Rossini
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08-22-2007 18:00
I always explain Gor to newbies like this: You've heard of Sword&Sorcery? Gor is Swords&Sluttery.

It is certainly true that most people roleplaying Gor, here and elsewhere, have not read the books and don't give a monkeyfuck about Gorean philosophy as espoused in the Gor books. The author teaches philosophy, so it's pretty much a given that the books are composed of the personifications and acting out of the author's philosophy. But most people who roleplay Gor (or roleplay out the Gorean lifestyle, or don't roleplay but live the Gorean lifestle) - most of these people are attracted to a single aspect of Gor. It may be the cybersex, it may be about meeting Goreans in RT, it may be a power trip, or masturbation fantasies, or community.... Personally, I think the most common attraction is roleplaying "being someone important."

It is also true that most people choose pragmatic consideratations over Gorean considerations, particularly on SL Gor. It matters a helluvalot more who's paying a piece of the tier than what it says in any book.

It is also true that onlineGor is relatively humorous. Oddly, there are very humorous characters in the books, especially Gorean men who have a very dry sense of humor (such as Kamchak of the Tuchuks or Ivar Forkkbeard the Torvie). But this is sadly lacking in onlineGor. Humor is not entirely non-existant in onlineGor, but it is rare.

On the other hand, it is a common misconception that the Gor books are self-contdradictory. The author's views changed over time, and we see them evolving as the books progress. However, the appearance of contradictions (particularly within single books) is ALWAYS explainable in regards to context. The clearest examples of this are when characters who are idiots espouse their philosophies. Quotes like this are taken out of context, and they seem to contradict other things - but really they are meant to be recognized as wrong ideas by the critical reader.

Gor is not Hamlet, but there are many Poloniuses. Gor is like the Classic Comics Edition version of a Shakespeare-wannabe mixing adolescent porn with a quaint but eccentric philosophy. But there are no contradictions.

I have, for years, challenged anyone to provide one of these so-called contradictions to careful scrutiny - and I have always been able to use context to illuminate the contextual and thematic issues, in order to resolve the seeming contradictions.

The truth is that the author of the books has overbearing tunnel-vision about espousing his relatively simple philosophy at astounding length and in seemingly-endless minor variations. The author is too smart and his philosphy too simple for him to be in a position to contradict himself. If Einstein was explaining the concept of sharing to 4th graders, how much could he contradict himself? Ok, John Norman is not Einstein, but it's the same principle.
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08-22-2007 18:26
I was Gorean Freewoman for many years in another online venue. When I came to SL I thought I'd wander to Gor and see if the community was as active here in SL, as it is in other venues.

I stumbled across 3 males, sitting around watching a female dressed in silks, dancing in a giant martini glass. I was greeted by all 3 males and I responded. The female simply said "hello". I was more than a little surprised at her greeting, but responded as a FW would address a kajira, before moving off.

Imagine my surprise when the males got all prickly at the manner in which I had addressed the kajira, with one of them saying "I don't know where you come from, but that is NOT how a strange Freewoman addresses my Free Companion, woman."

A Free Companion? Dancing in silks in a giant martini glass?! Watched by 3 males?! Err, okayyy. "Where I come from, Male, a Freewoman doing such a thing would be collared before her veil hit the ground."

Thinking it was a one-off situation, I continued my roaming only to find that it was the first of many similar instances I saw in my wanders. I didn't pursue Gor on SL. LOL
Colette Meiji
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08-22-2007 20:22
From: Classy Patton
I was Gorean Freewoman for many years in another online venue. When I came to SL I thought I'd wander to Gor and see if the community was as active here in SL, as it is in other venues.

I stumbled across 3 males, sitting around watching a female dressed in silks, dancing in a giant martini glass. I was greeted by all 3 males and I responded. The female simply said "hello". I was more than a little surprised at her greeting, but responded as a FW would address a kajira, before moving off.

Imagine my surprise when the males got all prickly at the manner in which I had addressed the kajira, with one of them saying "I don't know where you come from, but that is NOT how a strange Freewoman addresses my Free Companion, woman."

A Free Companion? Dancing in silks in a giant martini glass?! Watched by 3 males?! Err, okayyy. "Where I come from, Male, a Freewoman doing such a thing would be collared before her veil hit the ground."

Thinking it was a one-off situation, I continued my roaming only to find that it was the first of many similar instances I saw in my wanders. I didn't pursue Gor on SL. LOL


LOL


**Translated for non-goreans***

The poster, properly and conservatively dressed and unaware walked in on a stripper gyrating on a pole in front of three men. The stripper said "Hey slut" and kept dancing.

The Poster said "EXCUSE ME? thats rich! a stripper calling ME a slut."

And then one of the guys said "How dare you talk to my debutante fiance in that way!"

While his two buddies were checking his naked dancing deb fiance out.

*************
Angelique LaFollette
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08-22-2007 21:47
From: Markubis Brentano
While Collette made an excellent point (the cities of Ar and Ko-Ro Ba were cylinder based as were many in the central section of gor), you also make good point that different parts of Gor were similar to cultures on earth.

Tovaldsland (sp?) up to the north was based more on viking lore and the housing was more wooden log/thatch and mud style, where as the nomadic herds to the far south were styled off of American indian with their mobile housing. And in the desert regions, I was reminded of more a Middle Eastern feel with stone houses.

btw, I would love to see a Gorean based sim with building similar to Ar and Ko-Ro-Ba

Many also reflected late Roman Empire, or early Byzantine Constructions (By description) Norman based his world on a Number of Earth cultures because the human population On Gor was Culled from the Human population of Earth. It Only made sense that the Architecture would reflect Earth styles from the PreIndustrial Eras.

A 17th French Villa? Not Likely, But a 9th, or 10th century Medetrrranian Villa? That would make sense.

Angel.
Colette Meiji
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08-23-2007 15:23
From: Angelique LaFollette
Many also reflected late Roman Empire, or early Byzantine Constructions (By description) Norman based his world on a Number of Earth cultures because the human population On Gor was Culled from the Human population of Earth. It Only made sense that the Architecture would reflect Earth styles from the PreIndustrial Eras.

A 17th French Villa? Not Likely, But a 9th, or 10th century Medetrrranian Villa? That would make sense.

Angel.


They should just give up on pretenses.

What the gor guys really want is for the slave girls to still kneel and beg, etc, dressed only in wisps of silk.

While they can do the whole leather clad biker look.

:p
Angelique LaFollette
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08-25-2007 11:37
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Colette Meiji
They should just give up on pretenses.

What the gor guys really want is for the slave girls to still kneel and beg, etc, dressed only in wisps of silk.

While they can do the whole leather clad biker look.
But surely, that is Fashion, and Culture, i thought we were discussing Architecture.

BTW: White Silk does NOT mean Virgin, it means "Not used for Sex".

From: Sling Trebuchet
Does anyone know where I can get a Gorean-style microwave?

- In blue!

Go to a Gor Sim, Hold the item you wish to be heated in your hands, then Use a piece of forbidden technology. A Flashlight will do Nicely, when the Priest Kings become aware of the use of forbidden technology, you will be struck by a destructive heat beam. Just step out of it's path when the item you are Cooking has reached the desired level of Crispyness. :D

Angel.
Nika Talaj
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08-25-2007 12:04
From: Angelique LaFollette
Go to a Gor Sim, Hold the item you wish to be heated in your hands, then Use a piece of forbidden technology. A Flashlight will do Nicely, when the Priest Kings become aware of the use of forbidden technology, you will be struck by a destructive heat beam. Just step out of it's path when the item you are Cooking has reached the desired level of Crispyness. :D .


*snorfle* ... damn, Angel ... coffee all over my keyboard ... i wanna see a video of this ... HAHAHA ... ah god ...
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2007 13:14
From: Angelique LaFollette

BTW: White Silk does NOT mean Virgin, it means "Not used for Sex".


Only online with some of the IRC gor crowd.

Online they have made up a whole philosophy based on silk colors / some SL gor carries that through.

In the books the only difference between white silk and red is the virginity aspect.

The name has an obvious biological origin.

There are quite long passages where the threat is implied a girl can lose her white silk status pretty quick if she doesnt mind her place, and the punishment for taking such is very light.

In SL Gor such "openings" of slaves will lead to bannings and "deaths"

In many of the books the slave girls dont actually wear silks at all.


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As for the "born again virginity" part that does happen. Reguardless of what color they call the girls :p
Colette Meiji
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08-25-2007 13:17
From: Angelique LaFollette
But surely, that is Fashion, and Culture, i thought we were discussing Architecture.
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Its all related lol - the leather clad biker comment was a joke.
Nina Stepford
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08-25-2007 13:21
sort of like hanky codes!
From: Colette Meiji
Only online with some of the IRC gor crowd.

Online they have made up a whole philosophy based on silk colors / some SL gor carries that through.

In the books the only difference between white silk and red is the virginity aspect.

The name has an obvious biological origin.

There are quite long passages where the threat is implied a girl can lose her white silk status pretty quick if she doesnt mind her place, and the punishment for taking such is very light.

In SL Gor such "openings" of slaves will lead to bannings and "deaths"

In many of the books the slave girls dont actually wear silks at all.


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As for the "born again virginity" part that does happen. Reguardless of what color they call the girls :p
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