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LittleMe Jewell
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01-31-2009 12:03
From: Maelstrom Janus
Am I the only English guy really annoyed with this thread.. I find it objectionable to people in the UK and wonder how long a thread asking about the absence of other nationalities / races / cultures would have lasted...


It also breaks forum rules.
If he had been of another nationality, I would not have had a problem with the OP saying "snobby American guy" or "snobby Australian" or "snobby Chinese", etc... There are times when nationality is nothing more than another description to help people know who you are talking about. It isn't like we can give a "what does he look like" description to the forum folks. That might work with someone that has a distinctive non-human avatar, but how many 'light skinned male' avatars in SL do you know?

In my opinion, one of the biggest problems we have worldwide, online and off, is that way too many people are way too sensitive, take things way too personal, and get offended way too easily.



And the forum rules about naming people were not broken with the OP. Names came much later.
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01-31-2009 13:02
From: LittleMe Jewell
If he had been of another nationality, I would not have had a problem with the OP saying "snobby American guy" or "snobby Australian" or "snobby Chinese", etc... There are times when nationality is nothing more than another description to help people know who you are talking about. It isn't like we can give a "what does he look like" description to the forum folks. That might work with someone that has a distinctive non-human avatar, but how many 'light skinned male' avatars in SL do you know?

In my opinion, one of the biggest problems we have worldwide, online and off, is that way too many people are way too sensitive, take things way too personal, and get offended way too easily.



And the forum rules about naming people were not broken with the OP. Names came much later.


I wasn't on about the rules about naming people...if he'd been named rather than made representative of a country or nation I wouldn't have cared....

by the way are you a native of the British Isles or a country in the UK because I suppose its all very well to call people over sensitive if you either don't have any pride in your own country or its not your country coming under spurious attack. I think there'd be upoar if Americans for example were described or categorised critically as 'Brits' were in the original post, because Americans are renowned for their patriotism.
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01-31-2009 13:35
From: Maelstrom Janus
I wasn't on about the rules about naming people...if he'd been named rather than made representative of a country or nation I wouldn't have cared....

by the way are you a native of the British Isles or a country in the UK because I suppose its all very well to call people over sensitive if you either don't have any pride in your own country or its not your country coming under spurious attack. I think there'd be upoar if Americans for example were described or categorised critically as 'Brits' were in the original post, because Americans are renowned for their patriotism.


;0 roughly agree yah, not many americans quoting rev. wright or t.kazinsky or j.jones... there's a reason, built-in guilt. ;0 the seeds of these sermons were within the american people themselves, and educationally-wise, they're not well-prepared to confront these things.

(they like to say things like, 'a liberal's a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet' - however, was the mugger a liberal?? ;0 silly stuff like that)

p.s. here's a lil liverpoolian madness for my 'crost-the-pond friends ;0

ian dury - 'apples' ;0

Delilah the dancer from Soho
Was making her way down the lane
Simpson from Harrow
Had fruit on his barrow
He sold it for love and for gain

Simpson said, "Hello, young woman"
"My Pippins are lovely today"
"Don't be suspicious"
"Of Golden Delicious"
"Whatever your granny might say"

There only apples, red and green
Apples, lovely ripe and juicy and especially for you
Right off me barrw, me old cock sparrow
Apples, red and green

Delilah the dancer from Soho
Took ages to make up her mind
Simpson said, "Madam,"
"You'd know if you'd had 'em"
"That these are the very best kind"

"This is the pick of the orchard"
"Forgive me a figure of speech"
"But apples like these here"
"Just don't grow on trees, dear"
"And this one is really a peach"

There only apples, red and green
Apples, lovely ripe and juicy and especially for you
Right off my barrow my old cock sparrow
Apples, red and green

Simpson picked out a green apple
He polished it up on his sleeve
He said, "Do me a favour"
"And savour the flavour"
"Of what you're about to receive"

Delilah the dancer from Soho
Accepted his gift with a smile
She said, "It looks like a good 'un"
"It'll do for my pudden"
"I'll get round to it after a while"

There only apples, red and green
Apples, lovely ripe and juicy and especially for you
Right off my barrow, my old cock sparrow
Apples, red and green

(p.p.s. to say this doesn't exactly match the 'demo' version in my itunes, even a lil' more dribble-ish than this version ;0) hate looking up lyrics on the web and not having them match...
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Tremaine Moleno
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01-31-2009 14:26
From: Maelstrom Janus
Am I the only English guy really annoyed with this thread.. I find it objectionable to people in the UK and wonder how long a thread asking about the absence of other nationalities / races / cultures would have lasted...


It also breaks forum rules.


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01-31-2009 14:48
Hey Nyoko that was very cool :) - never heard it beofre but reminds me of an old movie The Duchess and the Dirtwater Fox where Goldie Hawn - also a dancer - sings something similar while she strips.
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Love Hastings
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01-31-2009 15:03
From: Maelstrom Janus

by the way are you a native of the British Isles or a country in the UK because I suppose its all very well to call people over sensitive if you either don't have any pride in your own country or its not your country coming under spurious attack.


The country was not under attack by the OP. The person was being described, and his region of origin was named in that description. And I'm a expat of Great Britain, so I can defend the OP (by your own reasoning). ;)
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01-31-2009 15:04
From: Maelstrom Janus
I wasn't on about the rules about naming people...if he'd been named rather than made representative of a country or nation I wouldn't have cared....

by the way are you a native of the British Isles or a country in the UK because I suppose its all very well to call people over sensitive if you either don't have any pride in your own country or its not your country coming under spurious attack. I think there'd be upoar if Americans for example were described or categorised critically as 'Brits' were in the original post, because Americans are renowned for their patriotism.


My step-father of 25 years is British and through him I have a british step-brother and step-sister.

I think you are crying foul for no real reason, at least one that is not imagined.

The term Brits is not a knock and i have been told time and time again it is acceptable, and as I said above, my step-dad is British and I lived 10 years under British Rule in my house before i moved out so I am somewhat familiar with many terms related to "Brits".

Why am i not surprised that someone found offense with my saying Brit to represent a person who I thought was from.....Great Britain. :eek: Go figure...
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01-31-2009 15:06
From: Love Hastings
And I'm a expat of Great Britain, so I can defend the OP (by your own reasoning). ;)


Just keeps getting better and better...


Now i have added an accent to my vision of you...:D
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01-31-2009 15:09
From: Briana Dawson
Just keeps getting better and better...


Now i have added an accent to my vision of you...:D


I'm afraid you'll have to make that a Canadian accent, eh!
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01-31-2009 17:31
From: Maelstrom Janus
I wasn't on about the rules about naming people...if he'd been named rather than made representative of a country or nation I wouldn't have cared....

by the way are you a native of the British Isles or a country in the UK because I suppose its all very well to call people over sensitive if you either don't have any pride in your own country or its not your country coming under spurious attack. I think there'd be upoar if Americans for example were described or categorised critically as 'Brits' were in the original post, because Americans are renowned for their patriotism.


Personally, I'd take it as I take most things said here, with a grain of salt and a little humo(u)r
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01-31-2009 17:36
From: Love Hastings
I'm afraid you'll have to make that a Canadian accent, eh!


You drink beer too, eh?

what are things aboot up there?
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LittleMe Jewell
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01-31-2009 19:12
From: Maelstrom Janus
I wasn't on about the rules about naming people...if he'd been named rather than made representative of a country or nation I wouldn't have cared....

by the way are you a native of the British Isles or a country in the UK because I suppose its all very well to call people over sensitive if you either don't have any pride in your own country or its not your country coming under spurious attack. I think there'd be upoar if Americans for example were described or categorised critically as 'Brits' were in the original post, because Americans are renowned for their patriotism.
Geez, are you kidding? We Americans are constantly under fire from other countries, other nationalities.

While Americans are renowned for their patriotism, I would never think of the phrase "that snobby American" as being a bash on the entire country.

I guess it is just a difference in the way one looks at the world and whether or not one has a tendency towards assuming that a descriptive statement about an individual is an attack on the whole.
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01-31-2009 19:26
Well I certainly didn't see the original post as a comment on Britons, the British, or what-have-you..... speaking as one who was the other day described as "posh" (which rather threw me for six, as I regard myself as anything but! lol) I have been enough times in the States to know that I only have to open my mouth to have the nearest gaggle of ladies coo over my "cute" accent (although not in New York, Brenda!)

And I've had the same in SL on the rare occasions I use voice .. "oh mah gahhhd yuu're British!!!!! I jus LUURVE yure akzent!"

Not that they end up buying anything in my store mind...... still, it does a chap's ego no end of good lol. And occasionally I'll tease Fatima by reciting one Shakespeare's love sonnets to her......

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02-01-2009 03:23
Actually the missing person who is the subject of this thread was quite amusing. To me, his grammatical pedantry and other little foibles usually seemed a bit tongue in cheek.

He's probably got an alt. that says things like 'Cor blimey, ha's ya farver mate? Ain't seen 'im for blinkin' ages, must be blinkin' munfs since I met 'im dahn da blinkin' eel pie caff! Hello John, got nu mot'ah?"

Thanks for correcting 'fosset' to 'faucet' - I think I'll just stick to 'tap' though, it's easier!
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02-01-2009 03:40
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Thanks for correcting 'fosset' to 'faucet' - I think I'll just stick to 'tap' though, it's easier!


yw :) Don't blame you ;)
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02-01-2009 11:27
Couldn't decide between

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What happened to me? I decided to take January off posting in the forums, and won my bet with a guy I work with who always goes teetotal for the first month of the year and claimed I didn't have the same sort of willpower - or should that be won'tpower? Some of you have probably met the guy actually - I set up an avatar called Askandi for him and we had a few side bets on whether he could convince more people he was me than the number of posts that mentioned me for other reasons while I was away. We called that one a draw - and thanks to everyone who participated, therefore contributing to our entertainment during the month.

I might just go away again for a while because I have noticed that the people I most laugh at make big enough fools of themselves without my help, in addition to which, sometimes I get it wrong and I have found out that once I hurt someone that really doesn't need that sort of grief on top of what she is already suffering, for which I am sincerely sorry.

Pep (Not British, not even English, certainly not posh, surprisingly not a grammar Nazi, not unintentionally mean and not worried what anybody but my real friends here think)

PS If you are worried about the way I describe my wife I hope the late Les Dawson's TV shows never get the global recognition he so deserved.
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02-01-2009 13:14
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Couldn't decide between

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What happened to me? I decided to take January off posting in the forums, and won my bet with a guy I work with who always goes teetotal for the first month of the year and claimed I didn't have the same sort of willpower - or should that be won'tpower? Some of you have probably met the guy actually - I set up an avatar called Askandi for him and we had a few side bets on whether he could convince more people he was me than the number of posts that mentioned me for other reasons while I was away. We called that one a draw - and thanks to everyone who participated, therefore contributing to our entertainment during the month.

I might just go away again for a while because I have noticed that the people I most laugh at make big enough fools of themselves without my help, in addition to which, sometimes I get it wrong and I have found out that once I hurt someone that really doesn't need that sort of grief on top of what she is already suffering, for which I am sincerely sorry.

Pep (Not British, not even English, certainly not posh, surprisingly not a grammar Nazi, not unintentionally mean and not worried what anybody but my real friends here think)

PS If you are worried about the way I describe my wife I hope the late Les Dawson's TV shows never get the global recognition he so deserved.


Well, now you are back, I am off. Have fun hurting and insulting other people.
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02-01-2009 13:16
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Well, now you are back, I am off.
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Pep (Running away again?)
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02-01-2009 13:18
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:rolleyes:

Pep (Running away again?)


Yes, I am. I don't need your aggravation in a place I used to enjoy.
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02-01-2009 13:38
From: Pserendipity Daniels

Pep (Not British, not even English...


To be clear, are you saying that Welsh folks aren't British? What would the right terminology be? Is "Britain" just too vague a term? I see that Wales is part of "Great Britain", "United Kingdom", "British Islands", and "British Isles" from this neat diagram:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:British_Isles_Euler_diagram.svg
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02-01-2009 13:44
From: Love Hastings
To be clear, are you saying that Welsh folks aren't British? Is "Britain" just too vague a term?
You answered your own question. Well done.
From: Love Hastings
What would the right terminology be?
Welsh, and you answered your own question again. Well done again.

Pep (For clarification, I don't consider myself European or a Citizen of Gaia either)
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02-01-2009 14:04
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You answered your own question. Well done.
Welsh, and you answered your own question again. Well done again.

Pep (For clarification, I don't consider myself European or a Citizen of Gaia either)


I'll assume sarcasm as default.

A personal preference then, as opposed to a proper definition.

BTW, too bad you didn't make it the month without posting (to claim that editing your sig to communcate isn't posting would just be splitting hairs). Did your friend make it the month?
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02-01-2009 14:05
From: Love Hastings
To be clear, are you saying that Welsh folks aren't British? Is "Britain" just too vague a term? I see that Wales is part of "Great Britain", "United Kingdom", "British Islands", and "British Isles" from this neat diagram... What would the right terminology be?

Great British, United Kingdomish, British Islandish or British Islish.
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02-01-2009 14:13
From: Love Hastings
I'll assume sarcasm as default.

A personal preference then, as opposed to a proper definition.
Well done, you have obviously learned something during my absence.

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BTW, too bad you didn't make it the month without posting (to claim that editing your sig to communcate isn't posting would just be splitting hairs). Did your friend make it the month?
Oh dear. I spoke too soon. Are you presuming to know the terms of my bet? Askandi agreed that editing of sigs (as well as PMs, inworld IMs, rude emails to idiot clients and love letters to my wife) were *not* posts for any practical purpose.

Pep (And of course he made the month; he has done for the last 36 years)
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02-01-2009 14:15
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Great British, United Kingdomish, British Islandish or British Islish.
Does that mean Fish come from F?

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