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Is 'THIS' the future of Second Life ?

Ting Luminos
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04-08-2009 00:46
Free accounts - Good

Anonymous accounts in a user content virtual world with real money - Bad
Clarissa Lowell
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04-08-2009 01:57
From: Tegg Bode
This is all about privacy, and people wanting it and SL delivering it, if you ccan't won't verify, despite popular logic here, LL aren't saying anything about banning unverified people from anywhere except where landowners choose not to allow them.


So the shopowners moving to Adult Island, the current island owners who must age verify all roleplayers/visitors, and anyone else wanting to do anything LL considers 'adult' in SL have a *choice*? First I've heard of it. Great, everyone CAN just say no.

From: someone
(snip) it's simple if you won't/can't verify to get into the adult continent, you have all the rest of SL to go to.


If only everyone else had thought of that! Nevermind that:

This dictates to a good portion of SL how they will play their game.

The economic fallout will be felt throughout SL.

People are already suspending shopping and land buying in anticpation of this huge change to the landscape (literally and figuratively as well).

Some smug people feel they are fine with this and everyone else can just suck it up.

There has been as yet no clear reason let alone justification for this large rule change.
Marcel Flatley
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Posts: 2,032
04-08-2009 03:13
From: Argent Stonecutter
Um, what? Scripts don't download at all. I'm so confused.

that one I will answer ;) My sentence was a bit unclear, what I meant is that only the downloading of textures can be contributing to a laggy user experience. High script times add to a laggy experience as well, though not by uploading.
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Briana Dawson
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04-08-2009 04:09
From: Vryl Valkyrie

Briana, you can file an abuse report all you want.. I do not take to your threats especially since there has been no harassment. If you do not wish to be contacted inworld, then learn to play nice in the forums so be careful how you tread and stop trolling threads just to get a bite. Actually maybe we need to file an abuse report against you for being offtopic and also for deliberately trying to damage Lilith's business with your unsubstantiated libelous comments. That is definitely harassment. Furthermore, you do not get to dictate what stays in the forums or not. These forums ARE a part of Second Life and they absolutely DO have an impact, positive or not. Lillith came here for support from her community not to be flamed and trashed. I find that utterly pathetic.

Oh shut up.

Oh and look, unlike the LAST TIME, you have yet to IM me with all your stupid chat logs to make your case.

I do get to dictate what is brought into my life in SL from these forums - oh you better believe i do.

No one is damaging her business. 1024's cause lag, duh. A LOT OF THEM cause uber lag. It's not freaking rocket science even for a low brow tech like myself.

I support Lilith's message 100%. So don't derail it just because i commented that 1024's cause lag.

I don't support your bullshit tripe - you the person from the Openspace fiasco that kicked over 2000 people from a group you hostilely took over.

Get over yourself. I freaking hate you for that crap you sent me inworld trying to draw me into your drama with all your stupid notecards of "proof" of how right you are.

Go to hell.

/SuperBitchMode Off

The onyl person being flamed here is you. And yet you make this long post like i executed some attack post on Lillith when all i said was a remark about 1024's. Nothing trying to HURT her business. If commenting on the texture choice someone makes in their business is 'libelous or slandering' as you say then where the hell has Free Speech gone.

Maybe you cant criticize a business in France, but you can damn well do that in the U.S. of A.

Lilith, you make great stuff, i own a BUNCH of it that i used to decorate my wedding. Keep up the great work with care for texture size as well.

Vyrll - you're a muppet.
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-08-2009 06:32
From: Marcel Flatley
that one I will answer ;) My sentence was a bit unclear, what I meant is that only the downloading of textures can be contributing to a laggy user experience. High script times add to a laggy experience as well, though not by uploading.
Since the script CPU limits were turned on last year, script lag has been a pretty minor issue. Avatars and other physical objects are the biggies these days.
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Marcel Flatley
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04-08-2009 07:33
From: Argent Stonecutter
Since the script CPU limits were turned on last year, script lag has been a pretty minor issue. Avatars and other physical objects are the biggies these days.


Since the thread is derailed already:

Isn't it so that with many scripts running (so a big total script time) the sim would get slower? Wouldn't that be one of the reasons they are going to cap the script use on Homesteads? That is why I am keen to keep up with this information, I just rented a HS and want to make sure I keep within boundaries :)

What I do notice (crappy laptop) is that when I look towards the 1/4 sim where a few hundred plants are, I experience way more lag then when I look to a still empty part. Even when all plants are rezzed.
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Briana Dawson
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04-08-2009 07:54
From: Marcel Flatley
Since the thread is derailed already:

Isn't it so that with many scripts running (so a big total script time) the sim would get slower? Wouldn't that be one of the reasons they are going to cap the script use on Homesteads? That is why I am keen to keep up with this information, I just rented a HS and want to make sure I keep within boundaries :)

What I do notice (crappy laptop) is that when I look towards the 1/4 sim where a few hundred plants are, I experience way more lag then when I look to a still empty part. Even when all plants are rezzed.


Be careful. Abuse reports are being threatened for thread derailment.

Don't be an anarchist!
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Marcel Flatley
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04-08-2009 07:57
From: Briana Dawson
Be careful. Abuse reports are being threatened for thread derailment.

Don't be an anarchist!

Anarchy rules!

The RQ (Resident Question) has been answered already I guess, so I feel entitled to derail :D
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-08-2009 08:02
From: Marcel Flatley
Isn't it so that with many scripts running (so a big total script time) the sim would get slower?
It's not script time that's the problem, it's script size. Mono made things worse there... Mono lists and strings average 3x the size of LSL ones containing the same data, and can be even larger, so while a Mono script with very little data will only take up 8k, and all LSL scripts take up 16k, converting a big LSL script to Mono can increase the data requirements to 48k or more.

If you have three thousand 40k scripts on a sim (which is not all that unlikely), that takes up 120MB of active memory. A regular sim only gets 800M to play with for everything... scripts, objects, avatars, cache, the physics engine, and all the little database and communication processes. A homestead or openspace only gets 200M. So what happens is the sim spends all its time paging to and from disk, and you get "frozen lag".
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04-08-2009 08:08
From: Briana Dawson
Be careful. Abuse reports are being threatened for thread derailment.
/me wonders if there would be anybody older than a month left posting in the forums if that was really the case . . .

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