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How to stop peepers?

Colette Meiji
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04-11-2008 13:21
From: Amity Slade
Privacy is important because there are some things or activities that we feel belong to us, and it is our decision whether or not to share them with others.

The fact that some people don't really care if other people are spying on them doesn't make privacy any less important. The issue is not necessarly whether one is being watched- the issue is whether someone wants to be watched or not. It's about having choice and control over one's immediate surroundings.

Typically, women are much more concerned about being spied upon than men, because they tend to have more experience and concern with being the victims of stalking and sexual assault. They guy peeping through a woman's window is probably could be a step away from attempting to rape her. Even though there is no physical rape per se in a virtual world, it's very easy to make that mental connection between a virtual behavior and a real-life behavior. Generally, protecting one's body is a much more salient day-to-day concern for women. That's probably why it's harder for some men to understand a woman's fear of peeping.

Peeping in SL probably occurs for one of three main reasons. One is just that a person is bored or curious, and is checking out what the neighbors are doing. Another possible reason is that peeping is preparation or a prelude to other harassment. Finally, if the peeper is someone that the victim knows, it could be a jealousy-related stalking situation.

Point of the matter is, you should have absolute, one-hundred percent authority over who has access to your body (avatar), land, and possessions. Whether or not you share what is yours with others should be your decision alone, and for any or no reason. That's what it means to have freedom.

It's a shame that Linden Labs does not take more interest in developing ways to protect residents' privacy in Second Life. Such action would make Second Life such a better virtual world.

As it turns out, despite the fact that Second Life makes spying on residents easy, very few residents actually have an interest in violating others' privacy. So if you just do things to make spying more difficult, you have a good chance of spending most of your Second Life time without being the victim of spying.

On the other hand, if someone does latch on you to stalk you, your options are severely limited.


The problem of course is there is a large contingent of people, including Linden Lab employees who really don't care whether you have any semblance of in-world privacy or not.
Eveline Nixdorf
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A strategy... maybe incorrect.
04-11-2008 22:32
Find a thinly-travelled sim that allows you to rez things for some useful period of time. There must be tons of them, I know of several. Put up a platform and rez some comfy abode, above 512 meters, which is the max for remote camming in my experience (I may be totally wrong about that). Obviates the need for renting :)
Bree Giffen
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04-12-2008 17:46
Eveline isn't that illegal? Well anyways I have tried moving my skybox up above 2000meters using the newest 1.20 viewer. Hopefully that will stop any further peeping from neighbors and make it harder for the casual flyby peeper.
Har Fairweather
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04-12-2008 18:24
If you need to know, the command sequence in the new viewer is Advanced>Character>Show Look At. An observer will be picked up as a 3-D set of crosshairs marking the point where his camera view is located. It will not tell you who is observing, just that he is. When you see a foreign set of crosshairs, you can decide for yourself what if anything to do about it that will make it an unenjoyable experience for the peeping tom. There is a JIRA proposal to add an ID to the crosshairs; it is one of several privacy related JIRA's linked to a meta-JIRA, SVC-241. Please check it out.

Amity Slade's post is a very good one that puts the problem in perspective. There is much that can be done to reduce the problem of intrusion and remote spying; a really determined creep can overcome them - same as a RL neighbor who is willing to invest in a shotgun mike and a really good infra-red camera pointed at your RL bedroom. That should not stop you from having a life, in RL or SL.

The underlying problem is that when someone accesses a sim, SL downloads the entire contents to his viewer, so in principle there will always be a way for him to get camera access to any part of it - if he knows to look, and where to look, and knows how to disable camera controls and maneuver his camera cleverly enough, and if he is screwy enough to want to. Show Look At at least always alerts you that you have an observer, which beats RL to that extent.
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04-12-2008 18:26
WHY?


I give them shows :D
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Eveline Nixdorf
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04-12-2008 21:49
Oh, I gave the wrong impression. I didn't mean to advocate platform-squatting - only trying to describe a way of setting up a temporary spot to be private in.
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