And Brenda- hmm- not a bad idea- think about it- if building awareness is the key issue- just having people post ur store name has to be good for something... How much do you want to be a forum bill board?
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
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09-13-2008 10:55
Well darn- it won't help since I do seem to have a rather healthy post count- or lack of RL.. but that's another story
And Brenda- hmm- not a bad idea- think about it- if building awareness is the key issue- just having people post ur store name has to be good for something... How much do you want to be a forum bill board? Just kidding- honest..._____________________
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eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
Posts: 752
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09-13-2008 10:57
thats what Eku was looking into. He hadn't moved in Months he said. Then suddenly he changed his sig to resemble Dr. Phil's made 20 or so posts and he went up several rankings overnight. um... i a she not a he...  but if its not true, i dare phil to change his to NEW SIG for a week go on... you can do it.  _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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09-13-2008 10:58
Well darn- it won't help since I do seem to have a rather healthy post count- or lack of RL.. but that's another story And Brenda- hmm- not a bad idea- think about it- if building awareness is the key issue- just having people post ur store name has to be good for something... How much do you want to be a forum bill board? Just kidding- honest...For you I can come up with something....give me some time to draw up a proposal _____________________
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
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09-13-2008 11:00
For you I can come up with something....give me some time to draw up a proposal Ooh! My first proposal! How exciting  _____________________
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
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09-13-2008 11:01
um... i a she not a he... but if its not true, i dare phil to change his to NEW SIG for a week go on... you can do it. [added] But don't you go claiming any rights to the sig style when I put it back! |
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eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
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09-13-2008 11:02
No problem good... so when you gonna do it? _____________________
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eku Zhong
Apocalips = low prims
Join date: 27 May 2008
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09-13-2008 11:03
ah done... now where else are you posting phillie?
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
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09-13-2008 11:04
ah done... now where else are you posting phillie? Anything else you'd like me to remove? |
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,735
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09-13-2008 13:33
Yeah, I've been curious about people's thoughts on "signa-tisements" myself. It seems silly for people on the forums here not to at least know what the heck it is I do. Maybe I'd feel differently if I could figure out an (affordable) way to get off page 2384967234 of in-world search results Just follow Phil's lead and run 39 bots 24/7. Oh, but wait I forgot. You have ethical standards. NVM then. _____________________
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Lord Sullivan
DTC at all times :)
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
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09-13-2008 15:57
Nowhere else. Anything else you'd like me to remove? That comment potentially left you wide open but i will resist this time _____________________
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Kaimi Kyomoon
Kah-EE-mee
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 5,664
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09-13-2008 15:57
they don't seem change here is an older post of mine /327/2a/280854/1.html#post2140252/327/2a/280854/1.html#post2140252 There is no sig on it that I can see. /327/85/252954/5.html#post1950914 It has the quote I just put in my si yesterday. _____________________
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Kaimi Kyomoon
Kah-EE-mee
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
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09-13-2008 16:05
As for the advertisement in my sig it's about the only promotion I do for my business, conceived in the vague hope that someone who might like to buy the kind of clothes I sell will see the picture and decide to come to my shop.
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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09-13-2008 16:55
I don't mind a brief plug for your own business in a signature it (holds "RENT A SHOP FROM ME!" sign with a cheezy grin) lets you know who another business owners are and what they do, SLURLS and links are ok, but I don't want to see like in other forums a 1/2 page 1024x1024 billboard at the bottom of peoples posts, or worse bowing to corporate sponsorship (IT'S THE CHOICE OF A NEW GENERATION!) text is fine for me as a limit.
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Ricardo Harris
Registered User
Join date: 1 Apr 2006
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09-13-2008 22:24
"Is having a signature like mine unethical."
Ah, nope. But the name seems to be. |
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 4,697
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09-13-2008 22:35
I don't know what you're really talking about because even when I was advertising or trying to run a business here it's seemed like a waste of L, too stress producing. etc.
People buy stuff from me often are friends, sometimes someone will stumble upon my stuff. I post images here because I enjoy sharing my artwork with others, often what I am showing is not "for sale" and no one has ever offered to buy any of my Artwork except for few friends. As far as ethics, unethical sig would be in my opinion i.e don't shop at X or Join the KKK and kill the non-whites or I sell freebies or something against TOS. The rest truthfully I don't care about or judge, everyone else here seems to advertise something about themselves here. It isn't unethical for wanting to share or have others know what you're doing, thinking or creating if it isn't hurting others or yourself in my opinion. _____________________
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Randoym Randt
SL2RLlove.blogspot.com
Join date: 2 Sep 2007
Posts: 77
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09-13-2008 22:36
um... i a she not a he... but if its not true, i dare phil to change his to NEW SIG for a week go on... you can do it. Thank GAWD you cleared this up or it would have been perpetuated! I had ref'd you as a "she" on our SL2RL blog... ...and was about to go change it...thereby perpetuating the myth that you have boy parts in RL  |
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Paulo Dielli
Symfurny Furniture
Join date: 19 Jan 2007
Posts: 780
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09-13-2008 22:40
If I really wanted to advertise my shop/sim in an unethical way, I would have put the name in my sig. Tzzzz... the nerve.
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Kaimi Kyomoon
Kah-EE-mee
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 5,664
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09-14-2008 11:17
I don't know what you're really talking about because even when I was advertising or trying to run a business here it's seemed like a waste of L, too stress producing. etc. People buy stuff from me often are friends, sometimes someone will stumble upon my stuff. I post images here because I enjoy sharing my artwork with others, often what I am showing is not "for sale" and no one has ever offered to buy any of my Artwork except for few friends. As far as ethics, unethical sig would be in my opinion i.e don't shop at X or Join the KKK and kill the non-whites or I sell freebies or something against TOS. The rest truthfully I don't care about or judge, everyone else here seems to advertise something about themselves here. It isn't unethical for wanting to share or have others know what you're doing, thinking or creating if it isn't hurting others or yourself in my opinion. _____________________
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Gabby Handrick
Registered User
Join date: 18 Feb 2007
Posts: 190
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09-14-2008 11:36
Personally I appreciate when posters include information about what they do in sl in their signature, it helps me to understand the point of view and sl experience of the writer which can help to put what they wrote into perspective. In my opinion there is a big difference between someone making a post for the sole purpose of marketing (something I find very distasteful) and someone simply including a link to their store or other enterprise in their signature. That being said, I suppose I should consider adding a signature of my own.
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
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09-14-2008 11:49
It's 24 hours since I removed my sig and, as expected, there is no ranking change.
The system does a crawl every 12 hours, so there have been 2 crawls since then. |
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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09-14-2008 11:52
I would hope that any ranking change related to sigs is simply that the sig causes interest in your product, which makes people act, and those actions affect the rankings. Of course, I have a lot of unrealized hopes. But maybe in this case it's true.
Regardless, it's a good idea to put your biz in your sig, if you'd like people to know about it. I don't, but it's not an ethical decision. _____________________
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
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09-14-2008 12:03
I would hope that any ranking change related to sigs is simply that the sig causes interest in your product, which makes people act, and those actions affect the rankings. Of course, I have a lot of unrealized hopes. But maybe in this case it's true. Regardless, it's a good idea to put your biz in your sig, if you'd like people to know about it. I don't, but it's not an ethical decision. |
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 15,028
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09-14-2008 16:56
i don't advertise my businesses in my sig, and my rankings are always where i want them to be... mostly.
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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09-14-2008 17:37
I don't like forum signatures that advertise businesses personally. I don't use them and due to the number that were prevalent in a big obvious way a while back I choose to turn signatures off.
Is it unethical? I don't think so but it might be against the forum guidelines as there is an antiadvertising clause in there. That in itself should be enough to stop it but there does not seem to be any enforcement so it goes on. _____________________
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
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09-15-2008 15:08
More than 2 full days in and still no ranking change.
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