Fix the forums now or tell us why not !!!!!!!!

No wonder they're messed up: the 286 could only address 16MB of RAM.

Sweet! SOmeone caught onto that. Thought I was the only old time geek on here lol

I not only have benefitted immensely from what I've learned about techniques on this forum, I've seen a vast number of products that use those same techniques.

The forum improves the SL experience for the typical resident, even those who never come here, because they use products that are better because of what their makers learned here.

I've certainly seen a lot of products with scripts that came from here; sometimes with customizing mods, more often, verbatim.

I have a hard time understanding how an intelligent and insightful person could serioulsy question the value of these forums.

How childish of you. "waaahhhhh but what about himmmmm???!!???1111"

So what if HE doesn't give help and is just a troll like you. It doesn't take two eyes to see that there are many people here that do give help and use the forum as intended. You may not troll to intentionally irritate people, but you are just a troll nonetheless and you have no right to diminish the forum and the contributions of other posters because it doesn't suit your purposes.

But is forum really necessary to sl or is it a convenience for people who cant go on to sl because they are at work or in a restricted environment where it would be inappropriate to do so or they prefer the chat-format of the site itself?
I will miss resident chat but not aspects of it. "Endless thread" has gone beyond focus upon sl and has served its purpose - it would be more appropriate in-world liek forum cartel group chat. It suits in-world. Here on teh "outside" it has become exclusionary.

Hang on, hang on. Troll? I've posted many threads here and started many discussions and they have been lively ones. Some has jiggered people up but that's too bad. I have given information and asked questions. If you think teh Ignore thread doesnt "diminish" teh forum read it through again. Yeah I ask questions. Yeah I make comments. I pay my tier. I dont flame anyone. I never AR. NEVER. I think that as a "citizen" in sl I do my bit. I give funds to newbs to help them establish themselves. I buy art for the gallery I open for the public. Just because i dont fit conveniently into general terms of behaviour around here and I am not "one fo teh gang" doesnt mean I dont make valid comments. Troll? Lol! Ask around sl to some of teh artists I support fiancially and see if they consider me a troll. Take a look at teh gallery that I have spent REAL money on that is for everybody's use. I have been involved in the construction of the arts by funding quietly since I been here. Troll? Read my comments more closely and read a few of the others also. Ask tyourself which one is teh troll.

Pie (I think Jig doesn't realise how much she annoys people *unintentionally*)

*springs to a lady's defence* Jig is NOT a troll. A troll is someone who deliberately sets out to annoy other people on the forums.

Pie (I think Jig doesn't realise how much she annoys people *unintentionally*)

I just cant stand seeing a smooth pond without a ripple - I have to throw a stone into the middle.

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

The first of 115 definitions of "troll" in the Urban Dictionary:

QED
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Respectful disagree. Not trolling. In sl we are "electronic". I know a human types our words etc. But essentially the character who "plays" us is a corpus of pixils. In that regard (not trolling - but trying to understand what makes us "us" in this cyberspace) we dont have a history as a lateral line of "beginning to end" (if we even accept THAT as a human cultural sense of our past). The sl world flies to quickly to create a definition - unless it is a corporation's "books" at end f year. We, as beings, come and go with impunity. If we have a history at all its of discos, disappearing malls and alts replacing alts. That's not history. That's fast-food social life. That's fine with me. Information is soon redundant at high speed in this "space". Our history is as essential to our existence as text messages on my mobile. Hardly relevant. And often ignored.

We can't have a "history" because we dont share a commonality - do we accept this is a "culture"? If so then what are our antecendents? Our shared cultural past? Our inbuilt respect for one another? Our investment for those who follow us? Our history is at teh mercy of Lindens. We dont MAKE our history. I dont know which culture you come from but it IS a culture with its history, so regardless, you, as a human are a link in teh chain of your family/society/genesis. Here we are blips and electronic zazz. I am no more responsible for you or you for me here than if we were cds on a shelf. Nothing more or less. We must not confuse what we do here with what is essential to our real humanity.

The owners chose to turn the use of BBcode off, so it's not broken. I didn't get the impression that the OP only meant the SQL problem.

If it's a fact that 99% of users don't come here, as you said, then that also doesn't matter because the forum is extremely useful to the 1% of users who do come here. However, I suspect that far more than 1% of users come here.

Also remember that a lot of the user base has been forcibly kept out by LL -- anybody who doesn't have payment info on file can't get here. I thought that was a bad move when LL first put in that restriction, and I still think it's a bad move.

We can't have a "history" because we dont share a commonality - do we accept this is a "culture"? If so then what are our antecendents? Our shared cultural past? Our inbuilt respect for one another? Our investment for those who follow us? Our history is at teh mercy of Lindens. We dont MAKE our history. I dont know which culture you come from but it IS a culture with its history, so regardless, you, as a human are a link in teh chain of your family/society/genesis. Here we are blips and electronic zazz. I am no more responsible for you or you for me here than if we were cds on a shelf. Nothing more or less. We must not confuse what we do here with what is essential to our real humanity.

I've read this. Over and over. And over. And while Nika says she can "understand your position well, and respect it," I'm at a total loss to find even one shred of common comprehension from which to start.

If I understand anything of the post, then I disagree with all of it. As far as I can make any sense of it, it seems to claim that what we do in the forums, in-world, in other social media--that all of it is devoid of meaning and weirdly immune from culture simply by virtue of using some technology other than passing down the tribal legends around a campfire.

That's just wrong. Digital culture is no less culture, just as digital images and music are no less art. Denying digital culture may be a comforting response to the shock of the new, but that which is denied exists nonetheless.

It's all right, K - it's a good time for us to think about the forum and its worth.

Yes, but turning a feature off does not "break" the thing, so it isn't broken.

Since that part of the dicussion, the forum has become actually broken.