Accidental Adult Content

They worry about what their peers might say or think about them, even if the opinion were ill-informed.
They never lost that childish insecurity.

It's probably true that the vast percentage of the mass market that LL aims for would be very reluctant to be known to be using SL if the mass media message was that porn was everywhere.
They can use the WWW even though paedophiles use it and have content on it. Most people understand the concept that the Net is a global thing that nobody is in overall control of.
However, something like SL would be perceived as "a website". So they would be using a website that has porn on it.

Some people might genuinely not ever want to think about sex and violence.
Some people might have the most extreme fantasies and private practices, but still would not like others to think that about them.
Both the saints and hypocrites present the same marketing challenge. How to distance the porn baggage?

It would be great if people could be 'adult' about things, but that does not seem to be achievable in a mass market.

It's unfortunate, but for SL to expand it needs to be able to demonstrate a clear no-brainer black/white separation of Adult and Other content.
They should have realised this way back.
They have absolutely no excuse for continuing to mix PG and M sims in new continents from the time that IDV got raised as a need.

They could have gone for a new PG-only continent and left the old mainland as is.
The problem then is that it would leave a lot of great PG content stranded in the middle of the Wild-West 'unpredictable' continents. In addition to having no really interesting content that would attract new residents, the safe PG new continent would be relatively small to begin with.
LL could have engaged with the owners of attractive major PG builds and offered them deals to seed a new PG continent with content, or even move premanently. They could have set the moles to build.

What is the relative percentage of M sims to PG sims. I understand that the majority are M. Would existing PG landowners be unwilling to move to a new PG continent?
Did anybody ask anybody about this sort of approach?


Perhaps....

LL appear to be slowing down a bit as they realise the non-triviality of moving all of the Mainland public adult builds and content to Ursula.
The whole world is so shook up that people can be more receptive to rethinking things.
It can't be absolutely impossible that they go for PG-only continents.

I have unintentionally encountered adult content a number of times. Nude avis with sexual attachments are common around welcome areas. I also like to visit medieval-themed areas and shops, and have come across Gor-seeming couples using open chat for very sexually explicit conversations.

Of course I understand it. My chief objection to the "I AM ADULT CONTENT" folks is that the constant badgering, pissing, moaning, and escallating thing to the point of comparing people to Nazis, has pushed this whole matter to the point that there can now be NO useful compromise or resolution.

Your example of "porning up" is a perfect point ... the "I Am ADULT CONTENT" folks have really only accomplished one thing;

*** To point out, highlight and drive into the ground EVERY possible loophole in the plan that people could have used to get what they want and need to survive. ***

The Lindens could never have closed these loopholes, had not the "I AM ADULT CONTENT" folks done such a splendid job of pointing them all out.

All true.
PG should be fine on Mature land and on Adult land
Mature should be fine on Adult land.

The problem for LL is primarily the PG people who don't want exposure of any kind to Adult - or even Mature.

It's different in the real world in your own home town. Everybody knows that some shopping areas have exotic stuff. Everybody knows that some parts of town are a bit racy/dangerous.
You can walk past a sex shop and nobody is going to think that you are in the least interested in going inside.
BUT
You can't use a website that "everybody knows" is a porn site.

Sure you can, because your avatar doesn't show up when you visit a website.

On my very first day in Second Life, I asked someone where I could get some free clothes.

They sent me to a bondage shop that specializes in nothing but adult content.

You can imagine what my first impression of SL was like.

Like someone who got onto the Interwebs for the first time and ended up at goatse.cx?

When I wrote
"You can't use a website that "everybody knows" is a porn site."
what I was getting at was
"You can't *be known to* use a website that "everybody knows" is a porn site.

You can be known to use the local shopping mall that happens to have a sex shop or dirty books. Nobody is going to think you're a perv. They are in the shopping mall beside you.

However, tell them that you use SL, and the big thing that they 'know' about it is that it has porn - you're a perv.

Yeh, but that's the thing, on the web nobody's in the mall beside you. In SL they are.

When I tell people I use SL they go "what's that?"

In SL, they don't know that in RL you are the president of their local chamber of commerce. In SL, you are just some other person from somewhere.



LL say that the "millions of potential new residents" will be held back by a knowledge/belief that SL is "unpredictable". And that this is the primary reason for the AO move.

It doesn't matter how mature we are in our thinking.
As long as LL, the business, believes that lack of "predictability" is a major barrier, we broadminded mature thinkers are a minority.

That doesn't mean that there's millions of people who think SL is for porn, that means that they believe they need to get institutions and businesses involved in SL, and that the gating people for that involvement are primarily concerned with the porn.

Many people (some say 80%) who come to sl likes it just the way it is. Now by passing those type rules will drive many of them away. People like you will stand up and chear. However, if the number of subscribers go down, the price of membership will go up.

In additon, just like the web were most of the innovation came from adult content sites. The same is going to happen here. There will be a slowdown in innovation, if not a complete stop.

Then what? You all will leave because sl is not keeping up with what you want.

So, just like you all did in the real world. The majortiy needs to suffer for the sake of a few.

Did you get the freebies?

a lot of mainland is littered with the junk, had a place I was renting then gore and dolcett crap images and chat spammers showed up.

went on a hunt once, and half the shops were next to sex shops so I abandoned even attempting the hunt which hurt the shop owner sales from many people who have children in the home.

I for one cannot wait till they move all adult content especially on mainland to it's own area and make an opt-in system. So there is no more of the accidental run ins, and dealing with noisemakers and chatspam from the sexshops when your next door in a regular shop.

as for private islands i say leave them alone, but mainland should have adult areas, and non adult areas when it comes to stores.

as for avatars, leave that to sim owners if one that offends ya tp's in then eject them back out. thats the privilege of being a sim owner/admin.

imo noise and shout spammers need to be removed anyhow, if they shout i usually AR them and watch them disappear pretty quick anyhow.

There is a lot if 'accidental' running into hardcore areas on the mainland cause it's all peppered in with residential areas and normal shops. I think it's a great idea if Lindens would just make a red light district version of mainland and then when ya need adult items tp over grab what ya need whenever.

Or attach http://www.redlightcenter.com/ to second life
-grin-

Yup!

... although, they probably think that there is a sizeable number of end-users who would avoid SL if they thought hat they might be confronted with uncomfortable stuff. Meta Linden refers to these as the "unheard voices". These people haven't told LL of their wishes of course, as unheard voices are rarely heard from.

DON'T LISTEN TO THE VOICES!!!!!!

Whatever happened to the business maxim that an existing customer retained is worth two ore more imagined customers that you don't yet have? It's foolish for LL to believe that anyone who's not already using SL will suddenly start if only we do X, Y, and Z.