Building - Do More Men or Women do it?
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Mjolnir Uriza
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11-27-2007 05:49
From: Cortex Draper Much of my building (Im a man) involves typing numbers in the position, size and rotation boxes. Most of my girlfriends building involves building by eye.
I wonder if that difference in approach to building is just who we are or if it follows a male/female pattern. i don't know where you build but most of the guys at herorn are pretty bad at math from what i have seen. i love them dearly but numbrs do't appear to be there stong point. and are we sure it's pie and not PI? ps when io was a child in school i had a pie holder for my lunch pail that had PI on it, i loved it wish i had not lost it.
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Qie Niangao
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11-27-2007 05:52
From: Cortex Draper Much of my building (Im a man) involves typing numbers in the position, size and rotation boxes. Most of my girlfriends building involves building by eye.
I wonder if that difference in approach to building is just who we are or if it follows a male/female pattern. It might also be a function of what's being built. It's easy enough to figure out what numbers to type in to align the corners of boxes in a structure. But if building clothes out of a bunch of twisted tori and tapered cylinders... I dunno: nothing short of the RL space program would get me to solve those equations of intersection.
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Claire Silverspar
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11-27-2007 06:01
From: Mjolnir Uriza i don't know where you build but most of the guys at herorn are pretty bad at math from what i have seen. i love them dearly but numbrs do't appear to be there stong point.
and are we sure it's pie and not PI?
ps when io was a child in school i had a pie holder for my lunch pail that had PI on it, i loved it wish i had not lost it. What's a Pie holder? I loved PI at school. I thought it was such a cool number, it had its own little equation and everything. (I shouldn't have said that...I am such a geek  )
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Storm Thunders
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11-27-2007 06:03
From: someone From the sounds of it, your friend needs to stay in more. We've tried! And everyone knows the best hair stylists are men.  From: someone numbers...eye I've always used both. I'm also real fond of the grid functions for aligning things.
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Mjolnir Uriza
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11-27-2007 06:07
From: Claire Silverspar What's a Pie holder? I loved PI at school. I thought it was such a cool number, it had its own little equation and everything. (I shouldn't have said that...I am such a geek  ) it was a little triangle shaped plasitc box just big enough for a single piece of pie for my lunch.
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Claire Silverspar
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11-27-2007 06:14
From: Mjolnir Uriza it was a little triangle shaped plasitc box just big enough for a single piece of pie for my lunch. Wow!! you guys get to take pie to school! That would've been so cool! All I got on the odd occasion I took my packed lunch to school was a cheese spread sandwich which had been squished slightly by my leaky drinks bottle, so it was a bit pink from the blackcurrant juice. eugh. Its no wonder I asked for school lunches... I'll shut up now and leave everyone to get back on topic lol sorry.
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Strangel Bade
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11-27-2007 06:23
From: Cherry Czervik I taught myself  Ditto this. I also use numbers, and build buildings and gadgets more than clothing or accessories. I think the stats between male and female builders are actually closer to even... I also think both genders tend to just make items as needed (quick chairs, landscaping bits, random parts needed for a household) without really thinking of it as "building." Sometimes, you just make a thing 'cause you need one. I don't consider that building, I consider it... making a thing, 'cause I need one. ^^ I figure that probably skews the stats on who's building and who isn't.
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Pie Psaltery
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11-27-2007 07:06
As a RL female, I tend to build things while wearing my male AV (or a funny little alien-type AV I made) to avoid wandering teenaged boys looking for sex. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of women do this.
I usually build "by eye" to start and when something starts looking good I'll go back and clean up the "numbers".
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Colette Meiji
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11-27-2007 09:28
From: Pie Psaltery As a RL female, I tend to build things while wearing my male AV (or a funny little alien-type AV I made) to avoid wandering teenaged boys looking for sex. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of women do this.
I usually build "by eye" to start and when something starts looking good I'll go back and clean up the "numbers". You must be one heck of a builder Pie, you even have your own Poll choice. Me I'm not much of a builder but the few things I have put together (clubs/sky box/a house for someone) have been fairly well received.
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Derbor Torok
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11-27-2007 09:28
From: Nika Talaj I just had a dear set of SL friends tell me they've been assuming I'm male in RL. I think its because I script - I did one for them. Actually, this revelation has sort of wrecked the pleasure I took in their company.QUOTE] You code? That has definelty increased your slut rating in my book...  .d
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Derbor Torok
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11-27-2007 09:30
From: Conan Godwin Pity they only use their skills to make hair. Not the ones I know... they build furniture, sims and buildings. .d
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Brenda Connolly
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11-27-2007 09:36
I'm a woman who doesn't build or script. I shop, though. Does that count?
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-27-2007 09:39
From: Brenda Connolly I'm a woman who doesn't build or script. I shop, though. Does that count? Sure.. you're 'building' up your inventory =P
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Brenda Connolly
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11-27-2007 09:41
From: Okiphia Rayna Sure.. you're 'building' up your inventory =P Works for me.
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Conifer Dada
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11-27-2007 09:42
I do quite a lot of building. In sandboxes I see quite a lot of female avatars but more are male or indeterminate (like robots or in space-suits. I usually wear my work clothes while building, with a baseball hat and hair in a bun, so I look a bit tomboyish anyway.
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Colette Meiji
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11-27-2007 09:44
Trying to Deduce whether a SL player is a RL male or not because of their ability to create using a computer program like Second Life, or Photoshop or Poser is pretty damn sexist.
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Derbor Torok
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11-27-2007 09:48
From: Colette Meiji Trying to Deduce whether a SL player is a RL male or not because of their ability to create using a computer program like Second Life, or Photoshop or Poser is pretty damn sexist. Not to mention cretinous... .d
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Derbor Torok
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11-27-2007 09:50
From: Brenda Connolly I'm a woman who doesn't build or script. I shop, though. Does that count? It countts towards something...  - but your skills would be wasted building, 'Ask Brenda' - that was your calling  .d
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Conifer Dada
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11-27-2007 10:12
From: someone Trying to Deduce whether a SL player is a RL male or not because of their ability to create using a computer program like Second Life, or Photoshop or Poser is pretty damn sexist.
I agree, but it's still a good discussion topic because at the end the conclusion will be inconclusive!
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Nika Talaj
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11-27-2007 10:26
From: Derbor Torok You code? That has definelty increased your slut rating in my book...  .d /me creeps up behind you, wraps my arms around you, and kisses you slowly between your shoulder blades in thanks. Then peeps around you to get a look at that book From: Strangel Bade I also think both genders tend to just make items as needed (quick chairs, landscaping bits, random parts needed for a household) without really thinking of it as "building." Yes, I would never call myself a builder. But I do build this and that as I feel like it. Want a lantern or circular mountain viewpoint?
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Brenda Connolly
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11-27-2007 10:29
From: Derbor Torok It countts towards something...  - but your skills would be wasted building, 'Ask Brenda' - that was your calling  .d Just don't ask me to build anything.
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Derbor Torok
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11-27-2007 11:17
From: Nika Talaj /me creeps up behind you, wraps my arms around you, and kisses you slowly between your shoulder blades in thanks.
/me rolls his head hoping she'll move her lips higher... and remembering last week's thread holds on to his pants.  .d
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Elessar Bikcin
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11-28-2007 01:12
Interesting question, but after reading the various responses I have to offer that there might just be a fine line difference between "Building" and "Creating/Crafting".
"Building" by and of itself I would consider to be something as basic as a structure (house, store, bridge, etc.). "Crafting" might be more in the line of hair, lamps, clothing, fountains, or animals - things that require a bit more minute detail beyond simple angles and shapes. Kind of hard to explain, actually.
I have "built" a couple of houses, pools, barbeques, fireplaces, and an outhouse <grin>. I have "crafted" some chairs, tables, planters, and an old-time hand water pump.
I am male in RL and SL, and I have begun to both "Build" and "Craft" items and I am 95% self-taught. Being really terrible with numbers , I simply rely on "eye" to do this until I get to the point of blending textures to match adjacent shapes when linking is not quite possible in the early stages of a project.
It is kind of interesting learning from my mistakes, and - to break the "male" mold - I am not afraid to ask for directions or assistance, either.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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11-28-2007 01:26
From: Colette Meiji Trying to Deduce whether a SL player is a RL male or not because of their ability to create using a computer program like Second Life, or Photoshop or Poser is pretty damn sexist. Its only sexist cuz the Broads say so!!!  But, given the industry numbers, I'd say a large % are male. The gaming industry itself is largely male. We need more women!!! * *Preferably Hot, Single Women 20-30 yrs old. 
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Claire Silverspar
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11-28-2007 01:56
From: Brenda Connolly I'm a woman who doesn't build or script. I shop, though. Does that count? Definately requires skill lol. I'm rubbish at shopping... I always come back with junk and a pile of uneeded stuff which doesn't look quite right outside of the store lol. 
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