Anti-Griefing

There are groups out there combating the griefers in SL


Emergency 911 is the best I`ve seen, their swat team members patrol around my club daily

Just search groups for Emergency 911....founder Flyboy Volaire.

Their always lookin for good people to join the Swat too

'What are griefing vigilantes, Alex.'

I'll take Political SL Irony for 300.

... Was that the question you provided an answer for?

1.The question is what can I do about being griefed?
Which is saked by hundreds everyday...I simply jumped straight to an answer

2.Vigilantes are "STRICTLY PROHIBITED" from membership

3.These people are only there to help
a.Privide information on what griefing is
b.teach others what they can do to protect themselves,how to set land permissions,how to file an abuse report..etc..
c.If a griefer has placed an oject on your land , they will try to find it it and eliminate,as well as report it.

3.Maybe you should take a look at what your talking about , before allowing ill spent sarcasm,portay yourself, as a close-minded dullard

no-offense

Wasn't sarcasm really, it's honest speculation based on events of the past, where most of these sort of threads end up. EVERY group says they're going to "do the right thing", and the whole point is, most griefers want to cause a ruckus, and starting a battle with them just butters their bread.

As a estate manager of a sim that was twice offered "protection" by two different security groups, and then the same day was turned into a weapons testing zone by the "security agency" responsible (stating "You have a 2 minute autoreturn on all the sims, so there won't be a mess to clean up"... just before crashing two of the sims twice), who also set up a "weapons testing base" on a sim I rented on before I moved, which their "combat maneuvers" crashed the sim 4-5 times a day... I actually speak from experience. I think that base in that sim still exists to this day, check out 'Emit Time'

The only true justice out there is the land tools... and making them work for the owners better. LL has promised some time ago that mainland owners would get security options like island owners. Soooooooooooo far, they're still waiting...... *pokes LL*

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Just one of the threads on the concept of "security groups that don't really secure anything"

My experiences have also shown that these "security" groups, while potentially well-meaning, can cause their own trouble. Most recently for me was being pushed around by the member of a security group while visiting the ANWR sim who's only statement to me was "no kids here." He also harased my in-world brother via IM.

(Before anyone talks land owner's rights, note dat ANWR is a Linden void sim between Sansara and Heterocera.)

I also wrote about the experiences of another forum regular last week in the Metaverse Messenger. http://www.metaversemessenger.com/

So great dat you've had good experiences with one (though you should know dat this is not a testimonial board, but "resident answers", but many others have very different views of these groups.

Mari

And I'm one of them. No thanks. No vigilantes for me. No matter what you want to call them that's what they are.

Vigilantism should be a private endeavor. Mob mentality generally erupts into its own form of griefing. My vengeance is quiet, swift and painful. Just ask Hoffa. Oh wait you can’t…HA!

I work as security for our group, and have worked security for other clubs and private parties and events.

I have found no need for an outside security force. Right Click / Eject and Ban ... works just fine ... then just clean up any mess they left behind.

I ban and eject "security" and "police" officers on sight on any sims/parcels I have control of or live in. Just like IRL cops are crooks with badges, anti-griefers are an accident just waiting to happen. I let my banhammer do all of the talking for me, I do not need some SWAT knock-off-look-alike to do it for me. ;3

I apoligize,for presuming a lack of experience on your part Psyra
Make myself the dullard, now didn`t I

I`ve heard about these...un-ruly wanna-be security types..I hav`nt found these people to be like that.

We had an incident where a griefer some how implanted an object in our telehub,someone from the group came and found it for us, then elimemnated it,and assisted in repoerting the incident.
We were not able to find it ourselves...wasn`t showing in objects on the land controls or anything.

And before anyone says turn off the build or script on the land, IT WAS off!

They patrol our area..not with weapons and attitude....they use scanners, to search for items that don`t belong.The gentleman who patrols our property has a list of all the people allowed to place anything on our land.He see`s a different name, he IM`s my partner or I to see if we know the person and if we allowed the object.

15 people filed AR`s that day....nothin has ever come of it.

A friend of a friend suggested this group,they came..were very kinda and eliminated the problem.

Had to have them TP me out of a cage once, none of my friends were online at the time.
million meters up from a sandbox, kinda puts a crimp in my day

Sometimes..some people need a little help..we`re not all experts at warding off griefer attacks.

But to each their own view of this....
Only providing information that may be useful to some

I find that an AWP from 2000 meters is so much more elegant than "eject" and "ban." But that's just me.

Everyone knows the true way to beat griefers is just deed the land to them or teleport out letting them have what they want. AR is useless and eject/ban is just vigilante griefing.

It's good to hear that are some genuinely helpful 'security' groups, and if they maintain their morals and police their own members then it could be a good thing.

But it's important to note that it no way means that they have any authority in SL, and the problem is that for every good-cop there is going to be about 10 bad-ones.

For my home I just rely on my nice little custom-coded security scanner that asks me to allow people permanently, temporarily or warn/eject them (with auto-ban if they keep trying their luck).

Myself, I am of the "Freeze, dress 'em up, take snapshots and the the eject/ban" mentality myself. Auto return takes care of the mess and no push helps with some of the other issues. *shrugs*

Last one that offered protection for money got the treatment

That's the best option. At least until Decapitate and drag the headless body through the streets is made available.

I'm pretty sure someone will be able to come up with a place where that option is freely available

Hhmm. I'm not knowledgeabe, but that sounds like it ought to be a doable weapon. There already exist invisible "traps" that hold an avatar in place, though not as well as Freeze, of course, and which you can move around with them in it. Could someone make such a trap rotatable, so the avatar is horizontal instead of vertical? Then a simple invisiprim ought to take care of the head removal most of the time, since griefers are probably not big on prim hair and other head items that don't have alpha channels. Add some particle effects depicting a cloud of dust and tasteless-but-gratifying gore, and you'd really be in business. The griefer could always tp away, of course, but hey, that's a good thing too.

Could be a hot item for some enterprising anti-griefer to put together and sell. Just saying.

Nearly all so-called anti-griefing groups use the same tools the griefers use, and therefore produce no benefit to the metaverse society. Moreover, the power to deal with griefers lies overwhelmingly with the landowners themselves, who have no need of outside interference to deal with griefers, since they have eject/ban tools at their disposal.

Of the remainder, abuse reports not only work, but they work well, thanks to the new system in place. Anti-griefing groups should focus on this and make it work for them. Anything else is just more of the same thing the griefers are doing, and as an earlier poster said, interacting with the griefers on any level but this is just giving them what they want.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I've just been given access to the anti-griefer tools on the island I work on. I understand ban and eject, but without trying it out on a willing victim (which will be my next step...) can anyone give me some details of what "freeze" does? I mean, I can imagine it stops the victim moving. Does it stop them from rezzing things? Do scripts owned by them stop? Do particle generators stop? Can they still tp away? If they can, and tp to a place on the same island, are they still frozen?

I looked for a good on-line reference for this, but haven't been able to find one...

Thanks.

Boy, would I love to dress them up after I freeze them. How about a nice diaper and pacifier? Can that actually be done? Just for the sake of a photo. Then I'd eject and ban them as usual.

I know some stores...

Mari

While in effect it prevents them from interacting in anyway with their environment. Not only are they unable to rezz, but also to chat, IM, move in any way, cast HUD-based attacks - the works. They can receive chat or IM from you, but cannot respond. Not absolutely certain, but pretty sure it applies only on your property and they return to functionality whan you boot them. You should be aware that Freeze wears off spontaneously after a few minutes and has to be reapplied if you want to keep them around suffering even more indignities, as why would you not.

Can they TP out or do you own them for a couple minutes? If the latter, then OMG, let the carnage and humiliation begin!! If they can tp away or log off, why wouldn't they just do that?

I think I would start by peeing on them. Then some dress up is in order. I'd have to check their groups so I would know who should receive copies of the pictures...

A couple minutes isn't much to work with.

They can't tp, but they can log off and relog somewhere else.

Prim things like skirts, hats, pacifier, sure. And I admit that it does work a lot better if there is two of you.. one to keep the person frozen and the other to do the 'window dressing.'

And yes, they CAN log off during the freeze, if they are smart, but then again, I've seen very few of these griefer-wannabes be smart. *shrugs*