Folks, today's children see and hear far, far worse than almost anything Second Life could possibly show them over such things as the TV, Movies, Games, general interaction and even the Internet ....
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-21-2009 04:54
Folks, today's children see and hear far, far worse than almost anything Second Life could possibly show them over such things as the TV, Movies, Games, general interaction and even the Internet .... _____________________
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Solar Legion
Darkness from Light
Join date: 9 Dec 2006
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04-21-2009 05:06
The problem is not protecting the children from SL, it's protecting the adults on SL from the children, and the real-life consequences of treating children "inappropriately" like adults. Which consequences are the same whether the children are "mature enough" or not. Actually Argent, the problem is protecting adults from others who refuse to believe that their "Little, innocent angel" is far less than innocent and is far more mature than they think .... As well as protecting adults from parents who refuse to take an active part in raising their own child (my daughter will be watched like a hawk for a while). _____________________
Obscurum est Eternus
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Ephraim Kappler
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Join date: 9 Jul 2007
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04-21-2009 05:15
Stay on the Pornopolis Continent, then, and enjoy the activities available to you there. I may not necessarily wish to engage in sexual or so-called 'adult' activities and it is not for you to suggest where I should go. I reserve the right to express myself howsoever I please in the company of my peers as the status quo of SL allows. It is inappropriate to change that by mixing children with adults because the grid will be modified expressly to suit children as a result. Far better that the Teen Grid were modified to a 'Family Grid' where parents and caregivers could happily enjoy the company of their charges without discommoding others. Otherwise SL will very likely become a poor reflection of Disneyland and it is childishly naive of anyone to think otherwise. |
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Waterstar Eilde
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04-21-2009 06:40
Actually Argent, the problem is protecting adults from others who refuse to believe that their "Little, innocent angel" is far less than innocent and is far more mature than they think ... So true - I WAS that angel LOL! Reading your earlier post, that could have been me at the same age - savvy, sexually aware and adventurous. By the time I was 14, I passed easily for 20 or 21. I hung out in pubs, led the boys on, and so on, and so on - and before anyone suggests that my parents were inadequate or didn't care, think on. If anything, they were inclined to be too protective and strict, which spurred me to rebellion - but I was smart at weaving elaborate stories and covering my tracks. Nor are we talking anything like 'recent' here - this was back in the day when 21 was still the age of majority, so it's a fallacy to think this is a recent phenomenon. Street-wise is street-wise in any generation, likewise early sexual awareness and a whole host of other behaviours, and to an extent I think it's inherent in one's personality. (My own offspring is a gentle, homely soul who doesn't seem to have inherited the gene - never gave me a moment's trouble!) But to return to your point, and Argent's, it's illustrated nicely by the study undertaken by a former headmistress in England - last year, I think - in which she discovered that a number of school students (girls) were deliberately leading guys on in chat rooms and encouraging them to gift them mobile phones. Naturally, once a guy sent the phone, the girl abruptly ended the contact. Who exactly is the manipulator in this scenario? (Rhetorical question - I understand the arguments on both sides only too well ) |
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Pserendipity Daniels
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04-21-2009 07:00
(My own offspring is a gentle, homely soul who doesn't seem to have inherited the gene - never gave me a moment's trouble! Pep (Disappointed?) _____________________
Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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04-21-2009 07:01
Far better that the Teen Grid were modified to a 'Family Grid' where parents and caregivers could happily enjoy the company of their charges without discommoding others. Otherwise SL will very likely become a poor reflection of Disneyland and it is childishly naive of anyone to think otherwise. Agreed. We've all seen it happen before. |
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Solar Legion
Darkness from Light
Join date: 9 Dec 2006
Posts: 434
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04-21-2009 07:23
So true - I WAS that angel LOL! Reading your earlier post, that could have been me at the same age - savvy, sexually aware and adventurous. By the time I was 14, I passed easily for 20 or 21. I hung out in pubs, led the boys on, and so on, and so on - and before anyone suggests that my parents were inadequate or didn't care, think on. If anything, they were inclined to be too protective and strict, which spurred me to rebellion - but I was smart at weaving elaborate stories and covering my tracks. Nor are we talking anything like 'recent' here - this was back in the day when 21 was still the age of majority, so it's a fallacy to think this is a recent phenomenon. Street-wise is street-wise in any generation, likewise early sexual awareness and a whole host of other behaviours, and to an extent I think it's inherent in one's personality. (My own offspring is a gentle, homely soul who doesn't seem to have inherited the gene - never gave me a moment's trouble!) But to return to your point, and Argent's, it's illustrated nicely by the study undertaken by a former headmistress in England - last year, I think - in which she discovered that a number of school students (girls) were deliberately leading guys on in chat rooms and encouraging them to gift them mobile phones. Naturally, once a guy sent the phone, the girl abruptly ended the contact. Who exactly is the manipulator in this scenario? (Rhetorical question - I understand the arguments on both sides only too well )-softly chuckles- I will admit that in my experience it was often the girls in my home town that matured faster than the boys ... Then again perhaps that is somewhat for the best, as I found myself quite detached in High School and did not act like the typical Teenage Male. Oh yes ..... I rebelled against my parents - in my own way - but I also found the same girls who were often more mature than the guys ... well, I found them to be a bit immature more often than not. Most of my friends were the teachers and other, older, people around town: I had almost no friends my own age ... the same could be said of the few friends I had as well, no matter their age (we tended to band together). Hell, I didn't even truly date until after I graduated ... and my first girlfriend was an older woman. _____________________
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Waterstar Eilde
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04-21-2009 07:30
That's what *you* think, Mum! Pep (Disappointed?) Hehe No, not disappointed at all - a bit surprised, but it may also be a happy consequence of having the kind of open relationship that I couldn't have with my own parents. I once suggested that a teeny bit of rebellion might be fun, but got the response of "what's to rebel against?" - now, short of a midlife crisis, I don't think it's going to happen.Oh - perhaps I didn't mention that the progeny in question is a boy? I do find them to be far more manageable on the whole, don't you agree? ![]() |
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Waterstar Eilde
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04-21-2009 07:38
-softly chuckles- I will admit that in my experience it was often the girls in my home town that matured faster than the boys ... Then again perhaps that is somewhat for the best, as I found myself quite detached in High School and did not act like the typical Teenage Male. Oh yes ..... I rebelled against my parents - in my own way - but I also found the same girls who were often more mature than the guys ... well, I found them to be a bit immature more often than not. Most of my friends were the teachers and other, older, people around town: I had almost no friends my own age ... the same could be said of the few friends I had as well, no matter their age (we tended to band together). Hell, I didn't even truly date until after I graduated ... and my first girlfriend was an older woman. ~ shares a gentle chuckle with you ~ so true, my friend... and I'm happy to say I've matured into that older woman (trying hard to wipe the smile from my face now). Fate has been particularly generous to me... I do, of course, mean the generic 'older woman' - I'm not your first girlfriend ![]() |
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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04-21-2009 18:47
I've probably missed this bit of info, so apologies if I'm asking the obvious. But............ If/When "Children" are allowed onto the main grid, I assume they will be able to use Adult looking Avatars? So how would you know if you are chatting (with pershaps romantic future intent) to a Adult or a Child? You wont know .. so it will be safest to stay in Porn-o-delphia*, and private islands marked "ADULT" Especially when doing any virtual dating. ------------------------------------- *Um I mean Ursula. |
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Ricardo Harris
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Join date: 1 Apr 2006
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04-21-2009 20:15
Here's another case of those who wish to save the world by reporting "underage kids" to save them from themselves. The thing I don't understand is how can anyone know what age anyone else is in sl. There's just no way to do this. And you can't go by those who admit to being underage cause you don't really know if their lying or not.
Another thing is many times these same people who go around sticking their noses in other peoples business, they themselves usually have their own lives and /or kids in disarray. But instead of trying to straighten out their own they're too busy trying to save others. It never fails. |
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Jesse Barnett
500,000 scoville units
Join date: 21 May 2006
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04-21-2009 20:19
Here's another case of those who wish to save the world by reporting "underage kids" to save them from themselves. The thing I don't understand is how can anyone know what age anyone else is in sl. There's just no way to do this. And you can't go by those who admit to being underage cause you don't really know if their lying or not. If someone is acting in a reckless manner and admit that they are underage then there is no problem in reporting them. LL simply kicks them out until they provide proof that they are adult. _____________________
I (who is a she not a he) reserve the right to exercise selective comprehension of the OP's question at anytime.
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
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04-22-2009 01:38
If someone is acting in a reckless manner and admit that they are underage then there is no problem in reporting them. LL simply kicks them out until they provide proof that they are adult. I agree. I generally consider myself to be an honest person, and I like to extend that to others. So if someone says they're underage in RL, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. If they're really adults, they'll be able to get back in. _____________________
"...Dakota will grow up to be very scary... but in a HOT and desireable kind of way." - 3Ring Binder
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