A New Blow for Freedom of Speech?

It's not your day for getting things right, is it, Pep? "Because it's there" is the attitude that conquered Everest.

Can someone tell me what she means by an EFler? Is she one of those Prokian types who set up distinct categories and squirrel people into them? How shallow.

And yeah the SLU people thought I was a kid because I was desperately broke IRL to the point where I was counting my Lindens. Such people are not worth my posting time.

Tyrannical types ASSume a lot to feel superior about themselves. Then they insult other people's lifestyles and feel they can trod on them because they had some issue with it while others didn't. I can use some pretty good language kid, don't worry.

If you thought I was hysterical instead of cynical, then power to you. I don't care what you think or your speculations. Nothing you've said so far has been based in rationale.

I ain't never seen you in SL and if you did anything that *I* considered inappropriate then AR it is. That's all. Let the Lindens sort it out. If you haven't the sense and all you can think of is yourself then that's your conscience or lack thereof. There are real people inworld and each has a story. Yours isn't the most important one by a longshot to justify people stepping aside to let you ruin their day. Karma is one thing you won't have a lack of.

Like I said: to define maturity is to recognize there's a time and place for everything. Kids don't get that. Adults have no excuse within the realm of social competence.

I understand that that Pep uses EFL to mean someone whose first language is English - English as the First language.

I don't know what your on about. I havent said a word. I may be a bit of a tyrant but I'm a good tyrant.

*snort snort*

I do a pretty good moose end skvirrel accent when coaxed.

Is this about me?
Did I miss something?

No, it's not about you, Jig

You need to read from where you left off earlier.

Thanks! I got worried there for a minite. Sometimes, I wonder why you dont all get together and teleport into sl and have a all-male chin wag on an adult sim. Uou can have a glass of wine in real and have a good go at each other in sl.

Makes sense to me.

When the females stop bashing me would seem a good time to stop. I should point out that the cancerous death threat was subsequently repeated, although not using quite such appalling language, presumably to avoid an almost certain ban. Wishing death by cancer is obviously seen as acceptable and not a transgression of the Forum Guidelines, as is evident from the support the originator of the deathwish seems to have garnered here.

I am not suggesting that all "females" have the same characteristics, just that a vocal minority seem to behave, in extremis, in this ridiculous manner.

Pep (If the cap fits, wear it.)

As I have explained previously, I believe that the adequacy of expression of responses reflects the accuracy of thinking that underlies those responses. Code written with errors doesn't run or produces incorrect results. In the same way, posts that are badly presented should be deprecated so that readers can be assisted in determining the likely validity of the thought processes behind the posting.

Pep (I am delighted that since I started pointing this out you seem to have been editing your own posts much more regularly, although like Scylla, when your emotions get the better of you, the errors recur.

Buzz. Repetition.

Pep (How many points do I get?)

Those were the words of the sound byte.

Pep (Read his autobiography and you will find I am correct.)

That's perceptive of you - NOT!

So where did this come from? Were you broke because you were using your money for funny substances and *that* is what causes you to ramble on incoherently?

Just not English, apparently.

Ah, more hallucinatory commentary.

At last you have said something coherent . . .

Pep ( . . . and I agree with you entirely; you really have gone off on one for completely the wrong reasons, haven't you.)

So a missing semicolon, for instance, is an indicator of fallacy of thought in your opinion? Bit of a non sequitur...

And as I have said before, you are just like the OP of that 'banned from a sim' thread. Nobody asks you to critique their posts and you are wrong to do it. When you grow up, you may understand that, but I doubt that you'll ever grow up in that way.

Don't flatter yourself. You won't find any of my posts that aren't edited - ok, maybe one or two in the thousands that I've posted. Sometimes I manage to do it before the message and sometimes not, but I always edit them - usually for typos. Another reason not to flatter yourself is because I have such a low opinion of you that any flattery you might throw in your own direction is a total waste of effort. About the emotions: there haven't been any here but there have been indications of some at your end.

I've no wish to do that. You are wrong, that's all. 'Because it's there' and 'because I think I can' are the reasons why people climb mountains. Hilary/Everest is no exception.

Damn! I had forgotten that you were of the Bart Simpson school of argument, just repeating the same incorrect opinions in the hope that the opposition tires of them.

Rewriting history? I can remember the point at which you started editing your posts on a regular basis. I was surprised that you could learn at all, albeit slowly.

Pep (Indications of some? Really?)

Yeah, why bother with inconvenient facts when *you* think you know better.

Pep (You are making yourself look silly now.)

Fixed it for ya!

Pep (You seem to have understood the general argument though; perhaps a bit more homework and we can get those grade scores up to acceptable levels.)

Rewriting history? You're rambling, Pep. The post you quoted was edited, for goodness sakes. I know - it doesn't say so - but it was edited.

Pep. Let me teach you something. No matter what Sir Edmund Hilary said, he did *not* climb Everest with the attitude of "because I can". He climbed it, first because it was there and hadn't been done to ayone's knowledge and, second, because he thought he could. Think man! Use your head for a change.

(and this was edited too)

I'm trying to spot a significant difference, but finding it a difficult task.

Pep (You obviously didn't think enough, man!)

Oh dear. It's just not your day, is it, Pep. I'll try to explain it down to your level...

Hilary thought that he could make it to the summit, but he didn't know for sure that he could do it until he actually got there. Only at that time could he think "because I can". At all times prior to that he could only think "because I think I can".

Ok now?

There are clear meanings in the words of the english language that you would do well to try and learn.

You obviously haven't attempted anything significant if *that* is your analysis.

Pep (Few people succeed who only "think" they can; the ones that do are *sure* they can.)

/me shakes his head is disbelief... and wanders off bemused...

I absolutely (!) agree that absolutism in matters such as this is unhelpful (and unlikely to please any of the involved parties absolutely).

And even if all parties were to concede that these matters concern gray areas, and even if all parties were composed of tolerant and open-minded individuals---even in that doubtful scenario, some people would remain unhappy with whatever policies might be implemented.

Currently the LL rules for PG versus Mature are muddy. Any enforcement is inconsistent. And obviously this is less ideal than would be a clear set of rules, consistently enforced.

Personally, I have problems with the idea of some language being banned from PG sims (other than the race-hatred terms currently reportable as abuse throughout all SL). For someone who's typed the f-word to face the prospect of being suspended or banned, raises all sorts of red flags for me.

And how would rules for PG-language be determined? (Yes, I know it would be an arbitrary decision by LL, but I'm asking how they'd justify their choices.) For example, I was once active on a site that censored the word "damn"---a word that DOES offend some people.

SOMEone is bound to be offended by terminology that The Average SL-Resident (if there is such a thing) would consider to be every-day usage.

Once we start making lists of words that cannot be spoken, we find there is no end to the task...