Make them able to fit

In my experiences, custom shading and coloring in photoshop by far "pwn" a plain white tee tinted inside of secondlife

Well for most items I design, the use of different patterns, trim, textures etc precludes using the in world tint slider.

For simpler clothing items such as T shirts or socks perhaps it would be a viable option.

For me offering multiple colours is simply about giving the customer a choice. It still takes quite a bit of time for me to make a colour variation that is acceptable. It is definitely not a 5 minute task.

When I was a consumer, I ALWAYS opted for an already colored shirt, hat, etc. I would skip right past the white "tintable" stuff.

I still feel the same way. I don`t feel tinting does things justice, infact it can make it look worse in certain circumstances.

As the above person said, the colors we do take time, in our opinion it is about giving consumers a choice, not greed. infact, I`m surprised people are looking at it as greed which is fueling the no mod.

That's why I said "some." Better creators do upload each color.

Prim clothing does need MOD capability, i will agree. No one has the same foot, waist, head size. But...

Why buy a blue shirt if you want to make it green? Why buy jeans when you want a pair of shorts? Why buy a round house when you want a square one?

Many designers spend countless hours making their clothing, houses, etc in a specific style and/or colour scheme. They deserve some credit for all their hard work, without it being bastardised.

Complain about something useful - the rip off merchants, the boxed freebies being sold for L$50 or the price of land.

It's about time we gave the decent, hardworking, creative folk (clothing, building, anything) a break. SL would be an incredibly ugly place without them.

There are two sides to this coin... creators that don't want anyone to 'mess up' their designs... and expect customers to wear clothing that doesn't fit properly and looks bad anyways (great advertising).
One of the comments we found when researching the markets for our business was, that customers had reservations about shopping for outfits/items from 'doctored 2D pics' which made the items/outfits look much better than the actual items, once bought and worn.
With our form of advertising (3D movies) the viewers get to see not only the item/outfit from all sides, but also in movement (walking, dancing, rotations etc). All our models are told strictly to follow the instructions supplied with the goods (some shoes have to have the foot size set to 0) and not mod their shapes, unless the shapes are supplied with the goods, or instructions issued as part of the sale.

We quite often supply feedback and work with designers, offering advice as to potential issues of fitting, prior to making the advertising, on the basis that they will incorporate those changes to the finished product. We only show true 'publically' available versions of products within our advertising and not some specially prepared version. We do this, so our form of advertising is true and honest, and creates a sense of confidence with the buying public, which ultimately assists the creator/designer. What you see is what you get essencially.

I like mod/copy.

I like selling stuff mod/copy and I like buying it that way. It's nice to be able to hand tint all the buckles on a pair of boots or tweak the shiny on them.

It's not so cool to buy a cute belt and find it's completely welded in place and looks like a hula-hoop on you.

*blinks and wishes she had some popcorn* I create my clothing mod/copy but no transfer. All the clothing, regardless of if it's just a swim suit or not. I'm lazy like that.

Actually, the reason I make the clothing mod is because people like making minor adjustments and in the case of prim parts - major adjustments. I use my avatar as my build model and I created my avatar's shape. Goodness knows that the prim things aren't going to fit everyone right out of the box and that the newer users are going to 'break' the item they are adjusting a few times over. So, why not just make it copy as well? Saves me a lot of work and saves the customer a lot of frustration.

Unfortunately, because of the way the perms system works, when I set something copyable, I set it 'no transfer' too. Folks, that's not ego, that's just good business sense. I try to be helpful whenever possible, and I think there has been exactly one time that I've had to tell someone to 'shove off,' in as polite a way as possible and that was when someone purchased via the SLB and failed to check the perms. In short, they wanted full perms be able to give them out as 'gifts' whenever they wanted or they wanted a refund. Uh-huh.

Exactly!.. where's your store? I'll stop by and prolly buy a ton of stuff from you.

Zoltan, It's not about buying a blue shirt and making it green. It's about buying that blue shirt and dropping the saturation slider to a slightly darker blue to match something else. I hardly consider taking a pair of jeans i payed for, and reducing the flair at the bottom so they fit inside a pair of boots as "bastardizing". Even saying that reveals a ton about you. I'm not the only one who feels that the choice between the creators "vision of what it needs to be" with no options, or that same intended look with the option to vary it a bit or put it back will always be the smartest choice with the latter. IMO nomod clothing is like buying half a product. Nomod shoes and attachments have a severe risk of not fitting properly and is a gamble with horrible odds. No more...

Actually, the word artist refers to someone who makes something - from the latin "artem", meaning a skill or a craft. So yeah, people who make stuff are artists - or to use the proper name "artificers". Either way, what they make is the product of their art. If you suggest that skill is not required then make stuff yourself and quit complaining.

I agree that the tone of the thread isn't uniformly constructive, but I also think designers often underestimate the value to the customers of whatever limited mod-ability they can get. Whether that value translates to acceptance of a higher price-point or to higher sales volume, or neither, I'm not sure. Speaking for myself, I'd spend at least twice as much for a mod-able item, if I'd even consider buying a no-mod version. So, to whatever extent that sentiment is shared, it may be something for a seller to consider when deciding what check boxes to tick.

(Oh. Yeah, I *do* make stuff. But I'd sure like to make *less* stuff, if only I could find more stuff I wanted to buy.)

Moddability for clothing is extremely handy. Pants flares, skirt lengths, and yes, even cropping tees/tanks to show off the belly bling (that's why you would mod a tank top) - it's far more useful. I don't know how much time or how often you ask people who made what they are wearing - I rarely ever ask, because, frankly, I don't want to look like everyone I hang out with.