SLim are you using it?

Re-reading the documentation for SLim, apparently it _does_ allow a person to see anyone on their friends list, or to IM anyone whose exact name they type in, even if those other people are not registered SLim users. It is unclear what would happen if I regster and then deactivate Voice again, but it will definitely indicate to others that at least at one time, I was Voice Activated, leading to a false expectation from them that they can voice-chat with me.

This has the same problem that I have with activating Voice on my SL client and just refusing to plug in a microphone or headset, so I can hear other's voices, but reply text-only - it sends a false-positive indication to others who are using SLim, or who are using the First Look client to IM you, that you're there, and are fully voice-activated SLim user. And I am not, and will not be, Voice activated. So I'll constantly be denying requests to "escalate from text chat to Voice", or will constantly be refusing incoming Voice-only calls, and having to explain again and again why I am using a primarily Voice service as text-only.

also on the subject of passwords

how many here use a 3rd party client? (such as nicolaz EC etc)

those are getting your password and could be parsing it to elsewhere. and unless you know programming and can pull apart the code, we have no way to know for sure

I just spoke with live help, the knowledge base info willbe updated, because at this time, you can only im folks on your friends list (the ability to just type in a name of someone not on your list doesn't exist yet) and they have to be using either SLim or the SLim first look client in order to text them via SLim

Remember it is still in beta so of course it has it's limits

All I wanted to know is who has used it and if so, what do they think of it... did not mean for the thread to go this way LOL

(I feel like I am support for it or something, when merely I am just someone trying it out)

I do not have all the answers

I do not see slim as primarily voice... if anything the layout and feel, primarily text
it just uses the voice provider to be able to connect

if that leads folks to believe you are a voice user, then omg they need to wake up and smell the coffee

bottom line is, some folks will use slim, others won't

I wanted to know what those who used it or are using it, thought of it

hehe

this whole thread is like a AD for SLim hehe Personally, when Im away from SL I want to be away from SL. Never will SL be so neccessary in my RL. So this is absolutely useless to me and I see it simply as a way for SL to boost the voice usage.

Well, I won't clutter this thread with any more discussion from me, then. If it only works for other SLim users and people using the SLim-enabled First Look client, then it's of no use at all to me.

Off to other threads...

exactly and that was not my intention.
all I wanted to know is if others have tried it and if so, what they thought of it

I never intended it to become an ad, or a support thread or a thread of me trying to defend SLim

I like it... others won't

I don't really need to discuss it with those who have no plan to use it. I just wanted to know what those who have tried it thought of it

not sure how it will boost the SL voice usage, as it doesn't require one to USE voice, just merely to activate it then log off

HOW will that boost voice usage

(I do not understand how folks who have not tried it can say how it works or what it is mainly used for)

at THIS time that is how it works

in the future when it becomes part of the mainstream client... who knows...

*shrug*

I guess I am done here too, as this thread went in a direction totally off what I was intending, all I wanted to do was discuss SLim with other SLim users hehe

Same here.

Hi,

SLIM is nothing I hoped it would be and everything I hoped it wouldn't be. My issues with it are:

* Can't use it on Linux or on my BlackBerry - If LL installed servers that talked Jabber, one of the other commonly accepted IM protocols or IRC I could use it on any device I wanted with software I already have. I really want to be able to use it on my berry on the train home from work.

*Uses its own protocol (assumedly - please correct me if I'm wrong) - No software for my phone (see above) and I probably can't use it on my PC at work as the company firewall won't allow it. So I can probably only use SLIM in places where I can use the full client. So, nowhere I actually want to use it.

* Doesn't provide a web interface - That would let me use it at work. No funny protocols - Please keep it HTTP or HTTPS.

* More Vivox - Their binary blob is (IMHO) a pain in the ***. On Linux it locks you into the sound libraries they have chosen. I've never successfully made it work on Linux no matter how many of the HowTos I try and on one occasion I managed to trash my sound configuration. I really wish LL would kick Vivox to the kerb and home roll an open source solution the community could help them improve. Every proprietary lump that goes into SL is one step further away from an open client. If I can sit with a headset on talking then I'm in an environment where I can run the full client.

* Outsourcing - Tends to make things difficult to get fixed when there's another company (particularly one abroad) involved. I'd much rather LL kept the functionality in house.

* Giving my password to another company - You've got to be joking! If that was to leak someone could debit my CC via my SL account. The more places data exists and the more often it is moved the more chance there will be a leak. This generates a situation where LL and the SLIM provider can both stand there and point fingers at each other meaning I can never get redress for a leak because I can't prove who is responsible. Right now only LL have my password. I refuse to age verify for the same reason.

I'm sure SLIM is great for some people (the customer service example given being one) but it doesn't address any of my needs. Being able to use SLIM on my BlackBerry is my number one wish. I commute and the time I lose doing that means I hardly ever get to go in-world any more. I miss my SL friends and I wish I could use that time to talk to them. I don't need or want voice as cellular data is too expensive.

Thanks for listening,
Pap.

SLim will be great for content creators that spend a lot of time working outside of SL. They don't want to have to run the main SL viewer while they're fiddling around in Photoshop or Maya.

I don't use voice but I'm definitely a supporter of it.

If I had a more common accent then I'd probably use voice all the time.

Text chat is for pussies.


...cats can't talk.

Right now I use ajaxlife, and am pretty happy with it, although I would like something even simpler. Metabolt and Trim don't work for me for some reason, and I'm not going to try SLim for the same reasons others have voiced.

I got SLim working, managed to send a message - it's literally just like a big old-fashioned chatroom in appearance, from what I saw - just plain black type on a white background.

It's a good idea and no doubt it has a use, but I can't see myself using it apart from to try it out out of curiosity.

I tested SLeek by logging myself in and getting my robot alt (but using human form for the test) to log in on sleek but they appeared in-world hovering above ground in sitting position, unable to move. I'm glad it wasn't me!!

That's not exactly true. SLim users can only communicate with SL users who use a SLim enabled viewer (for now that's only the firstlook client) AND are connected to Vivox (voice). If you are disconnected from voice you show up as offline in SLim.

(Which still doesn't mean you need to speak a word, you can even mute the voice channel so you won't hear anyone, and still use SLim, so I don't get the problem here.)

IMHO one of the biggest improvements, but still in pre alpha or something. Many bugs, friends list won't load, lacks important features. But I already love it. SLim is like skype basically, you can chat to friends and call them. It works even better for me than SL voice IM calls. There are several advantages over clients like SLeek. First, SLim uses a separate account so you don't need to enter your SL info to a third party application. Second, you don't rezz as a blind avatar somewhere standing around and getting pushed. And third, you can call people.

I dont quite iunderstand what SLIM adds to SL + Voice chat. Is is going to replace something?

And.... I run SL on Ubutu Linux, is SLIM available for me?

Regards, Adrian

Been a bit confused by this whole idea.

The first look viewer for SLim is in Linux, Mac and Windows, but the SLim software itself is only Mac and Windows. Does this mean that those of us on Linux are SOL? or we have to use Wine? or they just hid the software in some incomprehensible location?


Help?!?!?!

Oh this SLim thing is still around?

I'm waiting for it to go the way of the Hippo circa 2004.

BUt SLIM doesn't do anything to help that, because it's no more firewall-friendly than SL. There may be a few laptops that can't run the ole 1.18-based third party clients, but pretty much any current computer will... but a new computer won't do anything about the firewall-hostile nature of SL.

The ONLY acceptable solution to the IM problem in SL is to switch to a real open standard that's supported by third party software AND firewalls, like XMPP. Anything less is nothing but a waste of time.

I use it off & on. Like when I dont feel like logging in, but still want to chat with folks in-world.

Tried it and promptly deleted it. If I need to use a text client, I use SLeek, Metabolt, or I can use the AjaxLife Client on my IPod Touch.

https://89.16.177.17/iphone/

Anyone has an idea whemn SLim will finally be implemented in the main viewer?
Only then it wil become interesting to me....

You don't use your SL password. Knock it off people.


That is all.

I just wanted a quick way to call my honey to dinner without having to log on.

Never got that bastard to work for me... uh, SLim... not my honey.

Bastards.

I use Metabolt fairly often. Like right now.