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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-29-2008 21:12
I just got it working, kinda... not showing my friends list yet, but so far, I like it!!

I think it will be useful for customer service more than anything

what do you think of it (if you are using it)

of course if you are not using it, you really can't say what you think of it, cuz... you are not using it LOL


IT is NOT like the light clients out there, it is an instant messenger service and I like it so far

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Brenda Connolly
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10-29-2008 21:35
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Atashi Toshihiko
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10-29-2008 21:43
I don't use voice...

but even if I did, I wouldn't be providing my password to a 3rd party service. Even if it is "just once, for verification"

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10-29-2008 21:45
nope
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Kathy Morellet
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10-29-2008 21:47
nope
Alisha Matova
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10-29-2008 21:48
Refuse on principle. I don't see why we need another IM system when the first one is broken still. ...unless it actually works, but it's not in the main viewer...
Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-29-2008 21:50
strange thing is, I never had to provide my SL password to anyone other than the SL client. Weird

I use voice, but this SLim doesn't mean you HAVE to use voice, you just have to log in on the SLim first look client, activate voice to register you, then log out
you never have to actually speak on voice

I have used it to chat to someone, via text, was like using any reg IM client
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-29-2008 21:52
of course right now it only works if the other person is using a client (SLim or SL client) that supports SLim

I think when it is in the main client, it will be handy for folks who have businesses and want to be able to offer customer support, without actually being logged into SL

(also handy for meetings when everyone can not log into SL for whatever reason, be it a laptop or whatnot)
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Kenbro Utu
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10-30-2008 01:04
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
of course right now it only works if the other person is using a client (SLim or SL client) that supports SLim

I think when it is in the main client, it will be handy for folks who have businesses and want to be able to offer customer support, without actually being logged into SL

(also handy for meetings when everyone can not log into SL for whatever reason, be it a laptop or whatnot)


From what I have read it will only ever work for those who go to the trouble to create an account with the company hosting the service, Vivox. So depending on it for customer service would always be iffy. Why route through a different host?
Ceera Murakami
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10-30-2008 06:11
If they had a text-only IM client, I would use it. But because SLim is so completely and absolutely wedded to Voice, I'll never have any use for it. I don't use Voice, and no one I care to communicate with uses Voice in any way that would ever change my opinion on using it.

The few times that a sim building client has forced me to at least listen to them via Voice Chat, while typing my own responses, I found it to be worthless and almost unintelligible.
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Marianne McCann
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10-30-2008 06:43
Nope. Not all that interested. Not against it at all, but it's just not someting I gotta use for.
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10-30-2008 07:00
From: Ceera Murakami
If they had a text-only IM client, I would use it. But because SLim is so completely and absolutely wedded to Voice, I'll never have any use for it. I don't use Voice, and no one I care to communicate with uses Voice in any way that would ever change my opinion on using it.



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10-30-2008 07:34
Back in my SLeek vs SLim thread I was wondering what kid of solution would lead up to the lowest bandwidth used. Mid-conversation Day Oh came in and mentioned a project that was originally intended for mannequin bots. He shifted the project to a friends list IM only client called Trim. I LIKE IT! Xd

I can send IMs from my friend's list and accept any IM that comes in, all while using nearly no bandwidth when compared to the regular client (obviously) and SLeek. (^_^)

Since then, I had no reason to look at SLim. (^_^)y
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Nickola Martynov
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Well, I like it
10-30-2008 07:49
So far I've only been able to IM my alt, but I think it's going to be a very useful application.

Logging in to send a quick message to someone is painful. I have been responding to inworld ims from my email, but that can be slow and sometimes unreliable. I can't wait to try out the voice application part of it.
Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-30-2008 08:05
From: Kenbro Utu
From what I have read it will only ever work for those who go to the trouble to create an account with the company hosting the service, Vivox. So depending on it for customer service would always be iffy. Why route through a different host?



I meant right now, I can only connect to folks using the first look client

when the ability to chat with folks in the main client comes along then it will work for everyone

(at least that was my impression, however I have been known to misunderstand stuff so... Shrug... who knows)
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-30-2008 08:06
From: Ceera Murakami
If they had a text-only IM client, I would use it. But because SLim is so completely and absolutely wedded to Voice, I'll never have any use for it. I don't use Voice, and no one I care to communicate with uses Voice in any way that would ever change my opinion on using it.

The few times that a sim building client has forced me to at least listen to them via Voice Chat, while typing my own responses, I found it to be worthless and almost unintelligible.


and again you do not have to voice chat to use it, all you need to do is log in on the first look client set up for this, activate voice, and then log off and never use that client again

then when you set up SLim, you just text with others, no need to ever speak or use voice to speak.

I think people have that part confused
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-30-2008 08:09
From: Nickola Martynov
So far I've only been able to IM my alt, but I think it's going to be a very useful application.

Logging in to send a quick message to someone is painful. I have been responding to inworld ims from my email, but that can be slow and sometimes unreliable. I can't wait to try out the voice application part of it.


hey I have not tried the voice part yet either, so feel free to ping me anytime, I keep SLim running all the time :)

and I agree, I dislike using my email to contact people, and logging in can be mighty painful at times.

now I wonder what will happen when the grid is down for updates or whatever... will we still be able to connect to SLim, should be able to, and then, see those others on our list who are connected to SLim and still be able to communicate when the grid is down....
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Kathy Morellet
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10-30-2008 08:24
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
and again you do not have to voice chat to use it, all you need to do is log in on the first look client set up for this, activate voice, and then log off and never use that client again

then when you set up SLim, you just text with others, no need to ever speak or use voice to speak.

I think people have that part confused


Well, I am still confused. You say activate voice and then never use that client again. But do we still need voice active in the main client and, once the First Look becomes mainstream will we still need to have voice turned on in order to use SLim for text chatting?
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10-30-2008 08:25
Social networking companies have been getting used to asking for sensitive information. particularly a persons email and password.

Sites such as Twitter, Hi5, Friendster, you sign up, and right away its, "invite all your friends to join (and get our spam).' [enter your email and password here]

Some of my concerns:

- You just ratted out your friends. Now all will think you put them on a spam mail list, and in fact you did. Thanks for that Joke of the Day mail, Frank!

- You gave your email password to another party? You just gave them permission to look at your mail, your address book, and whatever else you have stored in that account.

- Oh did they say they would not do that? Look carefully, the agent collecting the email and password may not even be the site telling you they respect your privacy. A company can use a third party to collect private data, and maintain their own innocence.

- Are you using that password for other accounts, such as banking? and maybe a link to that bank account is in your address book?
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10-30-2008 08:29
From: Marianne McCann
Nope. Not all that interested. Not against it at all, but it's just not someting I gotta use for.


Same here. No need to contact anyone out of world for me. I hope when it is forced...I mean, added to the regular viewer, it won't get in the way or be a nuisance to those that won't need it.
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10-30-2008 08:29
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
and again you do not have to voice chat to use it, all you need to do is log in on the first look client set up for this, activate voice, and then log off and never use that client again

then when you set up SLim, you just text with others, no need to ever speak or use voice to speak.

I think people have that part confused
But even if I do that, none of the people I would want to text-chat with are Voice users either, so none of them would appear on the list of people that I can connect with. As I understand it, you only see other voice-active users. Hop on your SLim client, and see if you can even see evidence that I exist. From what I understand, you won't even see me as a choice to communicate with, since I have never set myself up to use SLim, Viox, or Voice.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-30-2008 08:37
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Well, I am still confused. You say activate voice and then never use that client again. But do we still need voice active in the main client and, once the First Look becomes mainstream will we still need to have voice turned on in order to use SLim for text chatting?


not as far as I am aware (this is still in beta and of course much to be worked out)
but as far as I can tell, no you do not need to keep the voice activated, the activation is merely to confirm and connect the SLim to your SL account.
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10-30-2008 08:38
From: Scout Schwager
Social networking companies have been getting used to asking for sensitive information. particularly a persons email and password....
Wait, WHAT?!?! (O_o)

Nobody but nobody gets my password except for the original provider. My Gmail password is for Gmail, SL password for SL, and so on... If any service is asking you to cross-pollinate your passwords, it's best you discontinue working with them as they are farming information they ought not to have. (>_<;)
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-30-2008 08:40
From: Ceera Murakami
But even if I do that, none of the people I would want to text-chat with are Voice users either, so none of them would appear on the list of people that I can connect with. As I understand it, you only see other voice-active users. Hop on your SLim client, and see if you can even see evidence that I exist. From what I understand, you won't even see me as a choice to communicate with, since I have never set myself up to use SLim, Viox, or Voice.


at this time, if we were friends (as in friended) I would nto be able to use the slim to chat with you, unless you are using firstlook for slim

now, as to if you need to activate voice for me to be able to text chat with you, unknown, as I am now just learning to use this, however if anyone is using the slim first look client and doesn't use voice and wants to friend me to test this theory out, I am willing to give it a try

just download the slim first look, disable voice (it is enabled by default) then send me a friend invite, I will log in and accept then log out and try to contact you using slim
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-30-2008 08:46
From: Scout Schwager
Social networking companies have been getting used to asking for sensitive information. particularly a persons email and password.

Sites such as Twitter, Hi5, Friendster, you sign up, and right away its, "invite all your friends to join (and get our spam).' [enter your email and password here]

Some of my concerns:

- You just ratted out your friends. Now all will think you put them on a spam mail list, and in fact you did. Thanks for that Joke of the Day mail, Frank!

- You gave your email password to another party? You just gave them permission to look at your mail, your address book, and whatever else you have stored in that account.

- Oh did they say they would not do that? Look carefully, the agent collecting the email and password may not even be the site telling you they respect your privacy. A company can use a third party to collect private data, and maintain their own innocence.

- Are you using that password for other accounts, such as banking? and maybe a link to that bank account is in your address book?


I never got asked to put in my password for SLim, when I created my SLim account, I put in a new password.
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