Thread about War and "Political Parties"

Coco, your ideas are very well thought out. I am sorry if I'm repeating myself, but perhaps you should post this to the Linden Hotline. Maybe if it was directed to the marketing department you could tell them how to do it right.

It almost seems to me, at this point, from this posts, that the people on the webpages are the victims here. The marketing dept unwittingly, by using their pictures and profiles, made them appear to be at fault.

Unless I missed something, I don't think any of these people originated any of these ideas.

Please post your ideas to the Linden Hotline and help them get it right. They are obviously not thinking the way you do about this and would probably appreciate a fresh point of view.

In no way is it the fault of the people presented on the web pages and in the profiles.

It's nothing but an honor to be featured on the site in any way, and in the case of the profiles in particular, it's homage to the wonderful work they do in SL for all of us.

But in order to avoid appearances of favoritism, the Lindens need to be more careful about choosing people they don't personally know, and choosing different ones more often.

This will also boost morale, and be a fun thing.

I very rarely go to the hotline - I figure it's for emergencies, really. I asked a question there once - whether or not I could still get First Land considering that I had "bought" land from Nexus Nash.

Others had said yes, but I really needed to hear it from the horse's mouth before I would bother to buy any.

Besides, I figure Jeska or whoever, reads the forums, including probably this thread, so they already have my opinion, and I don't really have a question; just an opinion.

coco

You're making assumptions here Coco. I do not have a personal relationship with any of the Lindens. I have chatted with a couple of them here and there but that's it. They pick people they know about (because it would be hard to pick people they've never heard of). That is not at all the same as picking people they have a personal relationship with. Do you understand?

I still think we should work towards solutions. The Hotline is there for direct communications. I think it's putting a lot of Jeska or whomever to glean such important info from all the posts in the forums.

If you feel this strongly, I believe taking it to the Hotline would be the logical solution. Unless the whole point is just to make the people on the webpages feel bad. I'm sorry if I'm saying something wrong, but I can't find another purpose.

All of this talk of collusion with the Lindens makes me sad. If they are this bad, favoritism and stuff, why would anyone want to patronize such a company? I hope this isn't the case, because all and all I've enjoyed playing SL..

So - how do they do it 'right'?

I understand, Chip. I should have said "personally know of."

coco

It's not to make people feel bad, April. It's an ISSUE.

I had no idea people would take my suggestions to rotate these things to avoid charges of favoritism as something against them personally. I think I have made it clear on a number of occasions that people should rightfully feel proud of their accomplishments. But your posts, April, have made me think that that message hasn't been so clear, and I will be careful in future to make that statement before talking about whatever issue I'm trying to address.

coco

It's the Social Democratic Faction. It's a functioning party in the city of Neualtenburg. You can read about it here:

http://www.ulrikasheim.org/sdf/

~Ulrika~

So - let me ask this again - since you possibly missed it earlier:

*How*, in your mind, do they 'do it right'?

Juro, I'll get back to you later tonight on that; right now I have to go to a belated father's day celebration, but i wanted to let you know i had seen this.

coco

OK, I'm back. By "do it right," I mean the things I've talked about earlier here. Soliciting profiles, snapshots, etc. - like they apparently did at least once, back in November. Going out and finding new people, if they don't get enough of a response here. And do that sort of thing more often. It will give players more feeling of involvement, etc., and allow for more excitement for everyone.

coco

Thanks for responding, Cocoanut. I will say that I know LL has (at least with the profiles) solicited more than what they are using. I was asked to fill out the questionnaire, which I did, but it is not up on the site. Either they didn't like what I had to say or they are holding it and others for rotation.

You have to admit that this is all marketing - which has distinctly different goals than a more altruistic approach such as you suggest. Is it possible to highlight 'success' stories while making sure everyone has thier 5 minutes of fame? Probably not, but who knows.

This is probably the wrong time to point out that there are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide everything into two categories and... ummm other kinds of people.

Well, Malachi, you just divided up the world into two categories.

coco

Well, no, not everyone, Juro, but more, and lots more. Yes, it is altogether marketing, but a lot of it is marking to people who are already playing, when you consider the pages that others can't see; I think there are such pages, anyway. Anyway, the whole enterprise could use a good shot in the arm about now.

coco

Errrmmm... OK - so, 'lots more' huh? Well, you do realize that they have something like 8 spots for profiles on the website. I just don't see this being an issue at all. LL needed some marketing materials to highlight SL, these were in two forms: resident profiles and random inworld snapshots.

The profiles appear to provide some insight for the potential customer as to what could be accomplished. LL has more profiles than what is being displayed and I'm sure after whatever 'run' they have decided on, the current profiles will be replaced.

The images are just to show SL in varying forms: avatars, builds, scenery, etc. I doubt there was any rhyme/reason to it, they probably used some older images and snapped some new ones and dropped them in.

IMHO, this is such a non-issue, I can't believe I just typed all of this. Have you tried asking Robin if they could produce more variety? That might be a good place to start.

I can't believe you just typed it out either! I thought we were done with this discussion.

coco

I can't believe that "politics" in SL is defined as "who gets exposure on the splash page."

I wonder who's gonna be elected prom queen this year....

I had a much larger idea, of which the pics being changed around - to avoid charges of favoritism (and make for more fun for more people) - was just one part, which got focused on.

Focused on, and I was told repeatedly that it was a totally unworkable idea and a bad idea. Until it was unearthed that the Lindens had actually tried to do that very thing last November.

It was just a small part of my original idea - if you read back, you can see where I outlined the ideas I had so far. Which I don't care about any more anyhow.

coco

Got Envy?

~Ulrika~

My money is on Barnesworth.

Oooh can I be Miss Congeniality? I've always wanted that title, please!

I'm a noob so I have no idea what teh FIC is for so I'm actually looking it up in an acronym finder. Is it for Flame Ignition Chamber? Or Facility Incident Commander? Fault Isolation Control? Fast Information Channel (I think I'm getting closer)?

Okay, I got sobered up and googled it with some additional keywords. Sheesh. You forum people are having fun.

For the record, I have never checked the non-resident part of SL website since I signed up because I know there'll be nothing new for me there. And when I was browsing the site upon signing up, I wasn't really looking at those profiles because none of them looked sexaay enough. Sorry.

i could so be a prom queen.

Oops misread that.. I thought it said Porn Queen!