Thread about War and "Political Parties"

Clearly the idea of letting everyone have the opportunity enjoy having their pictures put up as illustrations on the web pages is anathema.

coco

Maybe the Lindens are busy fixing bugs or something?

My picture is on the website because I make stuff and the Lindens asked some business owners to fill out a questionnaire. It's that simple. We have been told already that the profiles would be rotated out in the future.

Honestly, if you spent half the effort being creative inworld as you do complaining here, you'd really have something to show for it.

Well, it's too bad that I don't create things like you do and don't have enough to show for myself in the world, Marcos.

I need to spend more time doing that and less time trying to better this game for all on these forums.

Those profiles being rotated - I remember that - it sounded lke they were going to rotate them from the ones they had already collected.

coco

Yeah you're a real Mother Teresa.

It really is too bad. If you directed your passion into something productive, I think you could go far.



Yeah you're a regular Mother Teresa.

I think we can do both Coco. We can work on improving the forums and create good things in world. One is kind of empty without the other. It's nice to have a balance.

Remember we were talking about things we can do to help people? Well I've come up with a learning box. It's a touch texture like a picture frame but as you cycle through the pictures, you learn how to do something, kind of self paced tutorial. I was wondering if you'd like to get together in world and work on it with me. It needs just screenshots and then I bring the shots into a graphic program and write instructions on it. I thought you could share some of the things that perplexed you as a newbie when you first got here. I've got another friend, Hyper Tonic, who is interested in starting a school.

Who knows, maybe our efforts will be enough for Marketing to recognize and we can both be on the webpages.

I'm so excited by this.

I think we can do both Coco. We can work on improving the forums and create good things in world. One is kind of empty without the other. It's nice to have a balance.

Remember we were talking about things we can do to help people? Well I've come up with a learning box. It's a touch texture like a picture frame but as you cycle through the pictures, you learn how to do something, kind of self paced tutorial. I was wondering if you'd like to get together in world and work on it with me. It needs just screenshots and then I bring the shots into a graphic program and write instructions on it. I thought you could share some of the things that perplexed you as a newbie when you first got here. I've got another friend, Hyper Tonic, who is interested in starting a school.

Who knows, maybe our efforts will be enough for Marketing to recognize and we can both be on the webpages.

I'm so excited by this.

Talk to Ingrid Ingersoll when you finish your tutorial. She has some of the Orientation Island info displays in her park in Boardman. I think your tutorial would make a good addition to the park.

Thank you April, but I'm almost finished with my house, and want to complete that.

coco

I hear Marcus Forsetti uses swear words.

Is Marcus Forsetti like Ron Mexico?

Almost.... but a whole lot more evil.

What swear words? Can you give us an ex@mp!e? You know, maybe the swearwords of Marcus Forsetti have to be decoded, then we'd suddenly see they're like inspirational messages to us all....

Oh you're building a house, hon that would be perfect We can use the screenshots from your house building for the tutorials. While you're building, I can share some of the things I've learned about building in SL. What better thing to start a tutorial.

I'm excited and this will be good for both of us to actually work together.

Thank you April, but my house is almost complete. It is the first of my new line; one of the deluxe models. You are welcome to come see it! Just IM me on line when you have a minute.

Prior to that, I made bits of furniture - they are kind of waiting around to be scripted somehow - and made and sold other tidbits.

Once I get several houses into my line, I will get back to work on the furniture collections, designed to go along stylistically with the houses, and in mix and match collections.

I have been at this since I began the game in February. Along with seeing how much could be done on a basic account, including paying for and living on a 1000+ lot in Azure Islands, and before that, Meins. (That experiment is now over. I reported on it in a thread in General not long ago, and I'm now a premium account, which means I can focus a bit more on building.)

This is why it would be good if people didn't assume that everything said on these boards they disagree with is said out of jealousy, or some kind of "gimme" mentality, or some kind of bent for complaining, or laziness, and consequently say such things as:

"Honestly, if you spent half the effort being creative inworld as you do complaining here, you'd really have something to show for it."

It's infuriating to have one's ideas for the betterment of the game characterized as complaints, and, based on faulty and uncomplimentary assumptions, constantly translated into personal and fundamentally insulting terms.

It is quite possible for people to hold a number of ideas which do not and possibly never would benefit one personally.

What a concept.

coco

IMHO - If I was running a business and wanted to use the creations of my customers, I'd be looking for those creations that would help sell my product. I'd be scouring the userbase to find creations to highlight, but I'd also want to make sure that those that were displayed met a few criteria. I'd want them to have a (somewhat) established business, a fairly professional look/feel to thier marketing.

Basically, I'd be making a short list and picking those that I thought were the best. It's not to disprespect all of the others, but it is marketing.

Juro, I'm talking - well, I WAS talking, I'm not any more - about things as simple as the pictures that appear at the top of this page, or the similar AVs that appear elsewhere on the board.

I was talking about good morale boosters, good PR moves, a good way to PREVENT accusations of favoritism in the future - NOT about how I personally want to appear on the pages, or how I'm jealous of those who do, or how I'm not willing to work hard, or any of that, myself.

As for the profiles, though I understand how they were compiled in the first place, the criteria for compiling them should be broadened quite a bit, and everyone should be solicited for things such as these, giving everyone an equal opportunity. And more often than once a century.

I would liken this more to a community or a club, rather than a business - in other words, fun things for us to do and be in.

Anyway, I really don't care about it anymore. Just understand that I was never against anyone's personal businesses, or jealousy of their creativity, or any of that, or lacking admiration, or envious, or anything at all like any of that. Why should I be? God knows I get on these boards to tout every wonderful thing I ever see. Does that spring from jealousy?

I was talking about what LL apparently is not very good at - which is giving equal opportunity to everyone in these and in other matters.

coco

Any screenshots of someone working in SL would work with the tutorial. It doesn't matter what stage the project is in. I know you want to help newbies, I've seen you posting for just that sort of idea.

So whenever you are working, just PM me and I'll pop over.

I am a little bit perplexed by the rest of your response. I've never said those things to you or about you.

I think you have shown just how well the current system works in SL. Your creativity has made you productive and enable you to create the things you have created.

SL is wonderful for creative people like you.

You are doing wonderfully in Forums. Don't let the negativity get to you. I really wish you would join me and the rest of the people who have adopted TACT. Some I see are doing it quitely. No profanity and lots of positivity. I think we should focus on making a positive post as often as possible, don't you think?

The sun is shining here in RI and it's such a beautiful day. I hope it is whereever you are as well.

These are good ideas Coco, you should post them to the Linden Hotline or send them to Marketing. I wonder if the Marketing dept reads the regular forums? I'm sure the ones that are on the webpage aren't the ones to blame for putting them there. I bet if you suggested your idea, Marketing would be pleased with the input.

It's a simple thing: Change the pictures once in a while. Let others be in them.

coco

P.S. I am "anyone."

Better idea: use only Linden-created AV's - this removes any chance of cries over preferential treatment and suspicion over how those were selected.

I realize this won't work for the profiles - I guess either way LL is a loser on this issue.

Precisely. And furthermore, LL wants to attract people with profiles of people who have CREATED stuff using the capabilities of SL. The whole appeal of SL is supposed to be a place where YOU can build your world. Yeah, there are a lot of people who use it as a glorified chat client, but that aspect is not what LL is trying to sell.

Want to be on the website? It's quite simple. Make stuff that's interesting to look at, that LL might want to use as advertising. Joe Newbie's Randomly Picked Plywood Cabin isn't going to get people to sign up.



I am a big believer in this principle. Talk is cheap.

Since your picture on the site seems to be just the prominent part of a collage that has been there since I started playing, I really don't see how it has anything to do with all your hard work and accomplishments.

There is no story line going along with it or anything. It's just there to illustrate "Second Life." Just PEOPLE in Second Life.

When I first got on the game, as you will recall, I mentioned that I wondered why they didn't change these things more often, and that I was getting kinda tired of looking at the same "old-fashioned looking guy," you remember that?

And then you popped in and I had to apologize, pointing out that I was only talking about more variety of pictures of people, nothing against you personally.

Now, how is it again, exactly, is it that only certain people merit being pictured on this web site?

coco

I've already blown enough time trying to discuss this with you, especially in view of the continued unpleasantly accusatory, hectoring tone of your posts.

Who made the decision as to whom to picture on the site? Was it me? Was is Marcos? Was it Aimee? Was it anyone pictured on the site? No, it was someone (or a group of someones) on staff at Linden Lab. You're hassling the wrong people, and it's both rude and misdirected. Stop harassing people on the forums and go ask a Linden.