Quesoland, not Hiroland
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Hiro Pendragon
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07-10-2005 02:29
From: Roberta Dalek Well you're doing immeasurable damage to your brand by keeping on about it. You look totally ridiculous - sorry. Well, the people who agree with you seem to be alts of people who don't like me already, so I doubt it. I have kept it civil. If people don't like me because of comments I've made civilly, then honestly I don't care what they think. You can't please everyone.
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Carlos Benton
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07-10-2005 02:34
I am not an alt.
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Huns Valen
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07-10-2005 02:43
From: Alexa Hope Since Hiroland was only penned in the forums (and not by Hiro Q) I cannot possibly see how this can affect you in world. Everyone knows your business Hiro (P) and I wonder if you could let us know if you have ever been approached in world by someone wanting to buy/sell land?
Alexa Honestly, I knew what Hiro Queso did in-world first. In the past I have had reason to communicate with people who are in the land business. I don't know what the other does but I guess it has something to do with those e-sex poseballs? My involvement with poses has been limited mostly to getting free ones from friends and buying Reverie furniture.
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Caliandris Pendragon
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07-10-2005 02:44
From: Hiro Pendragon Carlos, for the third time, I'm not trademarking a name of an avatar or the word "Hiro". However, I am trademarking the business name of Hiro. I'll see that trademark...it won't stop me calling the place I live Hiroland though. If Hiro Q were setting out to use the name there might be a small soupcon of a point to this thread, but as he doesn't, you're nowhere. Even if you formally adopted the name of Hiro as a trademark in world or out of it you STILL wouldn't be able to stop people calling Hiroland, Hiroland...and if ever there was a way to crystallize the name in the collective conscious, think you just found it. You can't stop me calling it HIROLAND any more than the twin arches of Beelzebub can make me use their name. Cali
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Hiro Pendragon
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07-10-2005 03:11
Caliandris, why the attitude? Why can't I make a request and explain the rationale behind my request without being sniped at?
Yes, if you really really want to call it Hiroland, it's in your rights. But, I'm asking people not to. Asking.
Please cite where I've made any demands or have been uncivil in this thread, and I'll be happy to retract / clarify / apologize. Otherwise, lose the tone, please.
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Caliandris Pendragon
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07-10-2005 03:22
From: Hiro Pendragon Caliandris, why the attitude? Why can't I make a request and explain the rationale behind my request without being sniped at?
Yes, if you really really want to call it Hiroland, it's in your rights. But, I'm asking people not to. Asking.
Please cite where I've made any demands or have been uncivil in this thread, and I'll be happy to retract / clarify / apologize. Otherwise, lose the tone, please. If I have been uncivil, I apologise.... You can make a request, of course, and you have received a pretty unanimous answer. You have also been fairly rude in implying that only alts have come to this thread to support other people's right to use the name Hiro should they choose. As far as I am aware none of the people posting are alts, and it was a cheap shot. Hiro is well loved by people in the game, for his fair dealing and for his non-pompous, non-patronising attitude. That's all. Cali
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Alexa Hope
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07-10-2005 03:30
Hiro P
Do you mean with the exception of calling a couple of people alts? You have accused me of being an alt on more than one occasion. Just because people happen to disagree with you, does not make them an alt and the next time you accuse me of being one I will AR you.
The bottom line is that Hiro Q will not change the name of his business because he himself did not devise the name Hiroland. Others use it and will continue to do so. End of story really.
Alexa
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Hiro Pendragon
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07-10-2005 03:46
edited
nvm, it's late. I don't care about this thread anymore. I haven't for nearly 8 hours when I changed post 1. I'm letting this one alone.
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Caliandris Pendragon
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07-10-2005 04:44
I think the general opinion is that Hiroland remains Hiroland, and there is no confusion.
And I got the last word...YAY! Cali
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Hiro Pendragon
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07-10-2005 06:01
From: Caliandris Pendragon I think the general opinion is that Hiroland remains Hiroland, and there is no confusion.
And I got the last word...YAY! Cali Haven't you learned yet that you NEVER say that in a forum thread, else it keeps going? I highly doubt 1 1/2 days on the weekend surmounts to "general opinion". Being scorekeeper on a thread is highly obnoxious.
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Tang Lightcloud
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07-10-2005 06:38
I would like to make it known through out the land That I reserve the rights to "Tang-A'Land". And if you cross my sim on your broom, I own that little club the "Tango Room" And if you come with your mob or gang Be sure to try my "Tang-A-Bang". 
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Caliandris Pendragon
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07-10-2005 06:48
From: Hiro Pendragon Haven't you learned yet that you NEVER say that in a forum thread, else it keeps going?
I highly doubt 1 1/2 days on the weekend surmounts to "general opinion". Being scorekeeper on a thread is highly obnoxious. Why's that? I didn't assume it was general opinion in the whole of SL among the membership. And keeping score on this thread isn't very gruelling...can't see why it is obnoxious either, sorry. Cali
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Waves Lightcloud
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07-10-2005 07:04
From: Hiro Pendragon IRONY OMG I know just what you are going though, when the last name Waves came into game. I was making my moves, You know putting my groove on this fine AV and then I said my classic line. " Hey Baby wanta ride the waves on my pose balls" And She said.. " Where in HiroLand ? " OMG I almost died whats a brother to do now. And you think you have problems !! ~ The only Waves that counts
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Plenipotientiary Extraordinaire
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07-10-2005 08:33
I just thought I'd add my puny little opinion here -- I know withoiut question which Hiro I think of when I hear references to Hiroland. I also know which George Bush I thnk of when I hear references to "Goerge Bush" and to Junior, W or Sr.
Seems to be a bit of egotism wrapped up in attention/drama seeking going on here.
Then again... as I said, the above is just my opinion.
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Tang Lightcloud
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Jealous Wife Seeks Revenge
07-10-2005 09:49
 What AV were you trying to get on a Hiro pose ball with in Hiroland? You have some explaining to do mister? Just for that free Tang-A-Bangs on the house!
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Margaret Mfume
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07-10-2005 11:34
From: Hiro Pendragon Caliandris, why the attitude? Why can't I make a request and explain the rationale behind my request without being sniped at?...
Please cite where I've made any demands or have been uncivil in this thread, and I'll be happy to retract / clarify / apologize. Otherwise, lose the tone, please. From: Hiro Pendragon Well, the people who agree with you seem to be alts of people who don't like me already, so I doubt it.
I have kept it civil. If people don't like me because of comments I've made civilly, then honestly I don't care what they think. You can't please everyone. People is plural. If you meant one person, don't insult everyone in this thread. I have not felt snipish or uncivil. I am not an alt. I have never been in a conversation where you were maligned. I've visited your store to buy your product and thought your build was great. I had respect for your talent. I really do shop at a place named Dick's Sporting Goods. It reminded me of this thread since Dick is a common name and there do seem to be a lot of Dicks in my world.
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Marker Dinova
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07-11-2005 06:33
From: Hiro Pendragon Begging the question. You haven't provided anything new besides rehashing your original argument.
Listen, this is sort of pointless. I've not said I'd take any action; there's none to take since this is a community term and not a business name. There's absolutely nothing wrong with me asking the community to a request. The fact that you and others have been so belligerant in response is unwarranted. This is one of the most useless, dull and pointless threads I've read to date on the forums. And I've read a few. I don't understand why everyone is shredding Hiro P over this. He did what I'm 100% sure anyone else in his position would have done. Come on people. Clearing up the possibility of confusion by explicitly saying that "other" thread is about another Hiro and not him? What's the matter with that? Hell, I myself thought that topic was refferring to him too (the Hiroland thing). I think he did not do anything wrong. Everyone is snapping at him because you are friends of Hiro Q. That's it. This is just a gang bash at Hiro P. Get a grip of yourselves. Sheesh.
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07-11-2005 06:35
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07-11-2005 20:34
From: Marker Dinova This is one of the most useless, dull and pointless threads I've read to date on the forums. And I've read a few.
I don't understand why everyone is shredding Hiro P over this. He did what I'm 100% sure anyone else in his position would have done.
Come on people. Clearing up the possibility of confusion by explicitly saying that "other" thread is about another Hiro and not him? What's the matter with that? Hell, I myself thought that topic was refferring to him too (the Hiroland thing).
I think he did not do anything wrong.
Everyone is snapping at him because you are friends of Hiro Q. That's it. This is just a gang bash at Hiro P.
Get a grip of yourselves.
Sheesh. Hi Hiro, nice ALT.
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Hiro Pendragon
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07-11-2005 20:43
From: Nauv DeFarge Hi Hiro, nice ALT. I've used an alt in these forums exactly twice, as "The King", fyi.
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07-11-2005 21:36
Every user that posted on this thread is actually my ALT (except for you, of course).
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Marker Dinova
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07-12-2005 06:22
From: Nauv DeFarge Hi Hiro, nice ALT. Lol... sorry to dissappoint anyone here, but I'm no one's alt. Just a passer-by'er dropping my two cents in the bowl.
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07-12-2005 09:39
This thread has spiraled into personal attacks and discussions better suited to private conversations in-world or via IM and as such is being closed.
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