Additional peice of clothing: Cape

Like the skirt, but it would start at the neck. in fact, it exactly like the skirt. I know that this article of clothing will be a good thing, for new outfit. I cant think of 20 or so costumes and outfits i could do with this.

Primed capes look pretty bad, but with this feature, like the skirt, would move with the armos and torso.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want to see this feature implemented.

Capes that move with the wind and that can flap and billow flexibly... now wouldn't that be something? I've heard this request before -- it wasn't you who told it to me inworld, Gattz, was it?

This would go great with my "Neon trenchcoat-cum-skirthack". I'd like to be able to fly up and feel the coat flap, not unlike a cape.

clothes and hair blow in the wind if you have the right settings in preferences. i don't remember what it is off the top of my head but it's in there.

I agree capes would be a nice thing to have. I've no idea of how the 3d model limitations work though, but if it was ever possible... that'd be a yummy addition, indeed

It's probably about time for LL to add another half dozen or so clothing meshes into the game, as part of normal evolution and enhancement.

Although they're in bug-fixing mode at the moment, it won't last forever. Other than cape, what are the other main candidates that people have been requesting?

Some separation of function would be nice. Eg. it's pretty annoying to put on a necklace and discover that I'm topless in a PG zone. Some more layers would be useful.

Great idea!

oh that would be a GREAT addition. I can think of a bunch of possibilities with a cape mesh- especially if it wraps around the body and can be split with the sliders, like the skirt is. Stoles, serapes, capes, egyptian style collars, all kinds of stuff would be possible with that addition.

Damn, I just lost a whole post I'd typed. Why don't browsers have undo?

I was just looking at some avs on CoH's site (http://www.cityofheroes.com/media/costume_contest.html). I think CoH avs are so much hotter looking that SL avs, though SL has many more options in how you can look. But if you're not good with the av shape settings it's pretty easy to look like you have a serious birth defect. Maybe SL should add a lot of av templates so you can have a good base to tweak to get the shape you want.

Anyway, back to capes. YES! We must have CAPES! It would be great if they draped or had motion, but I'd settle for something that worked like a skirt.

Also we need BELTS! I'd like to see a belt mesh for the av's waistline that layers above the shirt and pants, and under the jacket later. I guess it would be good to have another belt on top of the jacket layer too, so you can tie your robe closed

Cape's, Begged for often and never seen.

Capes were asked for back in Beta when the discussion was going from Pre release to 1.0 even begged for in 1.2 and faded away in 1.3.

Basicaly it was asked for over a year ago its not a high priority and due to the current Avatar Mesh construction it would require 2 mesh's.

The innovation of a cape would also mean the inovation of a new avtar structure...meaning every clothing maker in SL would go Frigging nuts if they changed the templates andd destroyed half the stuff out there n the world.

I pray with this 8 mil infusion of funds that they can have someone work on something like that but there are a lot of other things Id love to see as well.

Such as a Draped garment...meaning where certain clothes could drape down from the breasts of an avatar...kind of a billowy effect which could either be taperd to the waist or left to hang directly down from the breast shape. This would allow for a unique design in shirts. and or Nightys.

But again things that have been ask for often and never heralded as important.

I hope we do get capes as I asked for them with Chip back n Beta ...tis unfortunate that the need for them has never been truly recognized.

Sincerely, Shadow.

capes, hoods, belts are all good things.

*stamp of approval*

that city of hero's site is kind of scary...

Oh yes I think this is a great idea...and have thought of it to...I have made capes with prims and they just don’t look right.

cape are a pretty neat idea, but then why not underskirts too? there is under-everything, but skirt after all

Skirts were a test of the idea of seperate meshes.

Avatar Vertex Program is the option that allows for wind to effect avatars (Prefferences - Options).

I would love to see capes, cloaks, and other various things like that, heck even non-skin-tight-shirts would be nice.

But yes losing compatablility(sp, spelled wrong definitly), would suck. Hopefully it could be done without losing that.

yeah, capes would be nice..could come up with some interesting outfits with the extra layer..i'd like to see a dress slot similar to jacket but further down the legs so you can make dresses that don't look like you're late arriving to the ball and caught in the lime light atop a pumpkin dependant on rodents feet for torque. i think a slot for a pet would be nice as well, somewhere spot can be sure to stay by your side and out of the neighbors dumpster. slots with slider options for facial and body piercing detail would be cool, and maybe "bra" and "panties"/lingere slots along with underpants and undershirt would be cool.....forgot alot of good ideas ive been thinking about but yeah uhm, everythings lookin good so far for me in game ;P

... well, the next step would be to have fully-meshed objects as attachments, and later fully-meshed objects overall (i.e. no prims).

*BOOOM* there goes my graphic card

I think all these suggestions are excellent, but they still need some evolution on the renderer's side so that current graphic cards can keep up with so many polygon drawing.

However, perhaps a different idea would be to use the skirt like it works nowadays... but have it attach to different parts of the body So basically you could have your meshed skirt attached to the waist, to the neck, or even to the top of your head - but not "additional" meshes. This would mean you would be able to have a skirt, a belt, a cape, or a veil, but not all at the same time, and not meltdown your graphic card

Hmm, a mesh on the top of the head... wow... this would mean not only scarves and veils, but also new ways to style your hair without prims... *eyes glazing over in ecstasy*

hmmm Mesh are a really good idea. Some optimized file format would have to be dreamed up.

The reason for supporting mesh is simple, at least for attachments. People have been creating highly prim intensive attachments, (read skeletons, samurai armor, tiki heads, etc). Ultimately the complexity of these objects resulted in the use of textures that were see-through in areas and polygons always hidden by other polygons. They are wasted. If instead there were mesh's used for these items the end result would be less wasted polygons, delivering a noticeable performance gain to players.

whoa, if i'm reading right are you saying build your complicated attachments than kinda convert them into one single shape like making a mold and a cast from your object? that would be sweet as long as i can still script the object.

would that work for vehicles do you think? 30 prims is just enough to make an ugly piece of crap (for me at least).

Avatar Vertex Program can help ATI cards and some others speed up the render of avatars, but it causes a loss in some of the light bounce features (which is fine, I hate having purple hair under a light).

The feature you're all looking for is Bump Mapped and Cloth, located under Display in the Preferences. It requires a restart of SL to activate. This will cause (longish) avatar hair (not prim hair) to move with the wind, and clothing as well. When you fly your pant cuffs ripple, it's pretty cool.

How would it involve an entire new av structure? it just requires 1 additional mesh, like the skirt. the main av mesh would not change.

Oh hell yes.

YES PLEASE!!!

But I'd like the option of more than one of these per av. I'm not trying to be unreasonable -- let's say 3. (I'd just like to be able to have both long hair and a skirt, at least.)

And while we're on the subject, please add a new garment type called "coat." What's the difference between a coat and a jacket, you ask? Simple-- a coat isn't spraypainted onto whatever you're wearing. A coat should be able to be used to create trenchcoats, wizard's robes, Chinese coats... seriously, how can you look like you're someone from "The Matrix" without this garment??

Ideally, it could be any length down to your feet, which would mean another mesh like the skirt mesh, but tied to sleeves, so you can make an outer garment with loose sleeves but an inner garment with tighter sleeves, if you like. Options I see would be a combination of shirt and skirt, naturally:

- front and back collar height
- length - midriff down to dragging on the ground
- "poofiness" -- so those who want a closer-fitting, more tailored look can have it, but probably we would need:
-- "waist poofiness" - how snug it is to the av's waist, from current spraypaint to billowing
-- "base poofiness" - how much it hugs the feet or billows out around the base
- sleeve length
- sleeve tightness
- front opening*
- side opening (left and right?)*

*How about two options: "opening size" and "opening position" instead? I could live without the openings, since one can use a texture with transparent areas for that, but openings are easier for quick jobs.

Anything else I'm forgetting? Oh, I know: shoulder pads!

I know this would be more complex than the skirts because the avs can bend at the waist, but would it really require a rewrite? I really really want this feature. My Mandarin suits just don't look right with the current shirt/jacket limitations. "Loose" just makes them look "baggy," not what I'm going for. And prims are just too clunky for most clothing. This would open up a whole new creative area for clothing design in SL.

neko

Support from the Lindens on both cloaks and coats! Get a bowl, it's raining soup!

Ok, yes, I'll wait until I see it. But this was encouraging:

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Love that hotline.

neko

Woohoo! :D

I've added this to the voting as Proposal 199. Here's the URL to the vote page:

http://secondlife.com/vote/get_feature.php?get_id=199

Pop on over and support this feature!

neko

Cory talked about this in the town hall last night:

Beryl Greenacre: It was rumored a few months ago that we might be getting capes as a clothing item; any truth to that, or are there any major clothing item changes planned soon?
Cory Linden: well, we now employ the guy who wrote the capes for City of Heroes, but he's really busy on the 2.0 renderer. We continue to think about ways to make clothing better, though.

Looks like it will need a lot more votes to come up on the feature list.

neko